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Am I being scammed by a fake domain broker and buyer?

Located in General Domain Discussion started by chickenfillet, Jun 15, 2018.

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  1. chickenfillet

    chickenfillet Established Member

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    So I received an email from some fake broker that said exactly this:

    "Hello!

    Our regular customer is interested in ********.com.

    He has a good budget and can make a really nice offer.

    If it's still for sale please email me.

    If you have a Telegram user name please send to me. We will communicate faster via this messenger.

    Regards,

    Aiko Tomahazu

    Vice President

    Investor Relations

    Future-S Hosting LLC.

    Tokyo

    Japan"
    I responded by saying that yes, the domain name is still for sale and that I was still accepting offers.

    His reply was a very generic one saying this:

    You may contact our English speaking representative Robert at https://t.me/Robert****** His Telegram username: @Robert******

    Our commission is only 5 %. The commission is divided between you and the buyer and paid after you get the money.

    The buyer offers * BTC (Bitcoin). If it's ok let's proceed. You will be paid Bitcoins/Ethereum, wire transfer or Western Union.

    The payment to you will be made via escrow service to protect both parties during the transaction.

    Do you have a certificate for your domain in English and Japanese? It's required by the buyer and his escrow service. They must be sure your domain has no restrictions or problems with law and trademarks in Japan. He won't proceed without it.

    The certificate must include the following to be accepted by my buyer:
    - Trademark infringement verification (the buyer does not want to lose the domain after purchase because it has problems with trademarks).
    - The domain must not be pledged or sold to third parties (verification of restrictions).
    - The certificate must be up to date (issued during last 30 days)
    - Copy of the certificate in Japanese (required by the buyer because he does not speak English).
    - The certification agency must be authorized by my buyer and his bank.

    We asked him if GoDaddy or Sedo appraisal certificates will work for him. Now we are awaiting for his answer."
    As soon as I read this email, I knew that this is a scam, because these certificate scams have been going on for quite some time, and I've never fallen into this trap at all: basically, I'm not stupid!

    So am I right? This is a scam, correct?
     
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  2. TERADOMAIN

    TERADOMAIN Active Member VIP

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    Appraisal scam

    Don’t respond

    Thanks
     
  3. gilescoley

    gilescoley Top Member PRO VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Its the good old appraisal scam..just delete it
     
  4. guilty

    guilty Established Member

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    This has scam written all over it.

    But to prove that this is a scam, there you go. The certificate pitch.

     
  5. alcy

    alcy Active Member VIP

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    its scam

    if unsure its good thing to ask others and or search google.

    unfortunately, some still do not do that.. and fall for it.. I am sure scammers make some money to this day with this bs.
     
  6. Asfas1000

    Asfas1000 Active Member VIP

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    Respond with questions and waste their time. Ask for clarifications etc.
     
  7. chickenfillet

    chickenfillet Established Member

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    Thanks everyone, I thought so.

    I've responded and blocked their email address...
     
  8. BaileyUK

    BaileyUK Established Member

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    You can guarantee they are still making money, hence the scam attempts continue.

    This Japanese buyer scam is just slightly better worded than the more obvious Nigerian scam attempts. It just goes to show it's in human nature to want to believe the possibility of 'good news' to even still raise these as questions
     
  9. bsdomains

    bsdomains bsd.io

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    Appraisal scam

    I had two emails like the same in last July 2017, Don't respond and not spend any money for their certificate.

    if you ask them to come via SEDO or Escrow.com they will flee from you :)

    copy of Email :1 I had received:

    Hello!

    I represent a buyer from Osaka (Japan) who wishes to buy xxxx.com for a new project.

    I help our VIP clients to find names for their projects.

    Our buyer can make you a really good offer.

    If you have more names please email me the list. I may offer them to our buyers.

    Sincerely yours,

    Ryoko *******

    Personal Domain Broker

    Core Server Japan Hosting

    Yokohama

    Japan

    Second:

    The buyer is an investor from Japan.

    He also wants to buy buy .net domain if you own it.

    Commission of our company is only 5%. It's paid by the buyer.

    He will send you the funds you via an escrow service that accept incoming payments from Japan.
    The buyer offers $15,000 - $20,000.

    Do you have a certificate? It's required by his bank.

    The final sale price will depend on the certificate.

    If you don't have the certificate it's not a problem. You can order it online.

    Please note he cannot accept it from any agency. He needs a manual service. It also must be a third party independent agency (not your broker our auction site) and must be accepted by his bank.

    The certification includes the following:

    1. Independent valuation of the market price. It will show your domain name is not overpriced. On the other hand if the valuation comes higher, he will increase the price accordingly. In the domain name industry, there are many appraisal tools that people use to estimate the value of a domain name. My client does not want to risk and doesn't accept services that use scripts. If you are unsure about some service feel free to ask me.

    2. TM verification. It proves your domain has no trademark problems. He would like this verification to be included in the appraisal report. It's not a problem because some companies include the TM verification for free.

    You can read about certification agencies at Google Answers:

    Link removed (“Domain Broker” is my nickname).

    The process is very easy:

    1. Go to the certificate agency site and order a certificate. Just submit your domains and let them know you have a buyer with $XX,XXX offer. It will help you to get a better valuation.

    If your domain is worth at least $1000, they will send you the payment instructions. If it's not possible, they won't send you the instructions. This way you will not lose anything. It's very convenient and gives you the full protection. Other services charge you upfront even if your domain is not worth spending the appraisal fee, so I don't recommend them.

    2. Send the certificate to me and we will start the sale process. As soon as he receives your certificate he will buy your domain.

    If you are new to the certification process, I can help you with the step by step instructions.

    Hope it will help :)
     
  10. chickenfillet

    chickenfillet Established Member

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    ^ Thanks to that post above, it is basically the same as the scam email I received.

    I find it funny though. The guy in the scam email offered me 15 BTC for my domain name!

    It's no wonder people fall for it. 15 BTC = $100K!!!
     
  11. lock

    lock Traffic.tools VIP

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    If you need to ask delete...
     
  12. LeapNames

    LeapNames LeapNames.com Gold Account

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    I've seen this one quite a few times.

    I always think to myself if someone is going to want it anyways why would they even care if it was appraised, and what it was appraised for?
    Also, they could always do a TM search themselves if they really wanted the name.
     
  13. MapleDots

    MapleDots Domain Properties 2010 - 2019 VIP

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    As the owner of the domain you dictate the terms. If they want it they have to follow your rules and not the other way around.
     
  14. bsdomains

    bsdomains bsd.io

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    i forget to say one more thing when i was followed the link (currently removed from post) it redirected to a site and ask to pay $200 upfront even without asking the domain name.
     
  15. Crypto King

    Crypto King RFQ.com . LKY.com . FQN.com . Peculium.com VIP

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    I had the same thing for my domain Recruitable.com. Again, a Japanese businessman that wanted to pay $200k for it. I followed along and he asked me to get an appraisal but that is should be from a reputable source and he provided a link. I said I am happy to provide an appraisal but I would do it from a place of my choice like Sedo.com. He said it it had to be from that link as the buyer had asked for this. I said seeing as he is sure the buyer will pay, perhaps he should pay for the appraisal and that once I receive some payment I will give him double what he paid for the appraisal. Never heard back :xf.laugh:
     

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