alert Alert: Domain Scammer/Hijacker : Shiran Pahima

[TimothyS]

Guys, please pay close attention to the malicious hijacker/scammer:

Shiran Pahima , Louisiana (Baton Rouge Area), USA
Email & Escrow Account: [email protected]

We've made a transaction with her for the domain name: SJW.COM for 41K net via Escrow.com in March and Godaddy removed the domain SJW.COM from our account just 4 days later due to the domain SJW.COM is a fuxking stolen domain and the original holder was acquired it back from our account. Apparently we lost the cash and transaction fees for such a malicious transaction with this scumbag. She is disappeared after we suffered the loss. no mails, no calls.

She is selling some names recently like YIG.COM. please pay attention to her domain list.

We are taking legal actions to against this scumbag and acquired some information about her. Anyone who have her information please kindly help us, we will get you paid on this. We will make her suffer.

One more thing wanna let you guys know is : Contact the former holder and get confirmed before you trade a valuable domain.

 

[dntaps]

Really sorry to hear this. I hope you get your money back.

Reminds me of a tool I was once working on that would track registered domains and would aid in determining if a domain had been stolen or not. Realised this is such a rare case to make such a tool worth my time. I wonder if this is common enough to yield such an investment in said tool again? How many would be interested in donating to the development of such a tool? As much as I love creating software writing algorithms that detect such things is very time consuming though..

Over the past few months I have read a number of cases here on NamePros of stolen domain names.

Suggestion: start a poll & gauge level of interest + other members might be able to help in other ways e.g with software engineering / design skills / documentation

 

[MapleDots]

Very unfortunate for the OP and very good of him to post and inform the rest of the community. Goes to show due prudence must be followed on all larger purchases. A database pf stolen domains would still e one of the best options. I cannot believe this has still not been done.

 

[ddfenton]

I don't understand how escrow.com weaseled out of culpability as did godaddy? Is there any doubt that the thief is the party you've named since the ad was originally on Sedo and then the owner was registered privately? Could he/she have sold it twice - ?

I have been involved with a major con man and managed to get him arrested and had my loss reinstated, but he ripped people off internationally for many years. The best way of apprehending him was to take it public (this site is a good start) and think about contacting INVESTORS RELATIONS and the the media liaison departments at GoDaddy, Escrow, Sedo and any other visible company involved with this. They don't want this going out, can you imagine? Dispatching emails to senior-level management to the effect of, "I'm sure you don't want your reputation tarnished by this 'misunderstanding' ...."

On that note, if you want to embarrass people into culpability -- because international IP law can be byzantine, you must be prepared to allow them to save face. And referring to someone as "a scumbag," no matter how deservedly, drags YOU down to HER/HIS level and turns it into a he said/she said.

Be careful not to let this get obscured into a street brawl if we're talking high level - FEDERAL, criminal activity - this is a con you're dealing with.

Good luck and thanks for letting us know. I do think, you should work with a researcher and, investigator and possibly a publicist - especially if money is no object. We busted our guy by finding out a slew of information that he ended up paying to keep quiet. Ping me for more info or if I can help.

 

[Wannabean]

A database pf stolen domains would still e one of the best options. I cannot believe this has still not been done.

It hasn't been done because the owner's don't know they've been stolen. By the time the names could be verified as stolen and added to a database, the theft has been discovered, the owner has reclaimed them and they can no longer be considered stolen.

 

[TimothyS]

bump

 

[rh2000]

Guys, please pay close attention to the malicious hijacker/scammer:

Shiran Pahima , Louisiana (Baton Rouge Area), USA
Email & Escrow Account: [email protected]

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We've made a transaction with her for the domain name: SJW.COM for 41K net via Escrow.com in March and Godaddy removed the domain SJW.COM from our account just 4 days later due to the domain SJW.COM is a fuxking stolen domain and the original holder was acquired it back from our account. Apparently we lost the cash and transaction fees for such a malicious transaction with this scumbag. She is disappeared after we suffered the loss. no mails, no calls.

She is selling some names recently like YIG.COM. please pay attention to her domain list.

We are taking legal actions to against this scumbag and acquired some information about her. Anyone who have her information please kindly help us, we will get you paid on this. We will make her suffer.

One more thing wanna let you guys know is : Contact the former holder and get confirmed before you trade a valuable domain.

Sorry this happened to you.

 

[Alans1225]

I agree with ddfenton and others 100% .....

 

[lock]

Thank you Sir, we did. but Godaddy will help us nothing except a lawsuit. we are doing that. we don't care how much will be cost to make the scumbag suffer.

You might be missing my point. Nearly anyone in any country can buy a domain but should I get screwed by eg: I am in Australia and try to sue someone in a random country eg: somewhere in Eastern Europe all the money and lawsuits won't make him suffer just screwed up dismissed thrown in bin as the law isn't world law and doesn't include them and there will be nothing more done about it other than throwing more money away. The info you have looks pretty bogus to start.

 

[lambo.com]

I was the buyer of YIG.com.

Sedo still have my funds and seller still has domain (it was locked for 2 months)

I forwarded them to this thread. Sedo don't care and still want to go ahead!

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"Thank you for the update. We certainly understand your concerns but this is a matter that happened outside of Sedo and is regarding a different domain. We have followed up with the seller and they have done all actions requested of them to show they own and have the rights to the domain for this transaction.

Unfortunately we are not able to speak on matters outside of our process. So far the seller has complied and even left the privacy setting off the domain to show their ownership since we asked them to do so. If there was an issue with another domain it does not mean that there is an issue with this domain. As far as we can tell the seller has the right to own and sell the domain. We hope this has helped. "

 

[ddfenton]

Ok, now I have an inquiry from Yoshihiko aka "domain broker," wanting a certificate from a third party agency (as yet unknown) for a client offering upwards of $15K for a site I own listed on Sedo for $2k. I've read almost identically worded inquiries online with different "handles," i.e. "domain lawyer."
Rather than (continuing to) highjack this thread-- where should I post this question and details?

 

[ddfenton]

PS -- someone has to hold the big players' (SEDO, for one) feet to the fire. IMHO.

 

[lock]

Ok, now I have an inquiry from Yoshihiko aka "domain broker," wanting a certificate from a third party agency (as yet unknown) for a client offering upwards of $15K for a site I own listed on Sedo for $2k. I've read almost identically worded inquiries online with different "handles," i.e. "domain lawyer."
Rather than (continuing to) highjack this thread-- where should I post this question and details?

Ignore it as this is the domain appraisal scam. Also why would someone want to pay more.

 

[ddfenton]

exactly!

 

[imc]

Escrow should have a 30 day cooling period for high net worth transactions before funds and domains are transferred. 30 days is sufficient time to unearth scams such as these.

Why won't Escrow implement this? It's a no-brainer.

 

[lambo.com]

Escrow should have a 30 day cooling period for high net worth transactions before funds and domains are transferred. 30 days is sufficient time to unearth scams such as these.

Why won't Escrow implement this? It's a no-brainer.

Because all vendors would choose a different platform to transact on. No legitimate seller will take kindly to having their funds withheld like that.

 

[imc]

Because all vendors would choose a different platform to transact on. No legitimate seller will take kindly to having their funds withheld like that.

Of course, this will be a choice offered to both buyer and seller. Does it make sense now?

 

[Kate]

Why won't Escrow implement this? It's a no-brainer.

Because due diligence has to take place before a sale is made. It's very hard to undo a transaction after money has changed hands.

 

[imc]

Because due diligence has to take place before a sale is made. It's very hard to undo a transaction after money has changed hands.

Kate, how will money change hands during a cooling period? The money and domain, both, remain in Escrow. As I stated earlier, this option has to be with the consent of the buyer and seller. 30 days wait time (for big ticket transactions) is not a lot to ask for especially when unsold domains remain with the owner for years on end.

Added - You're right about due diligence taking place before a sale is made as well. I was merely making a suggestion. Feel bad for the person who lost money.

 

[Kate]

What is this going to change ?
With escrow.com, the length of the inspection period can already be set to 30 days if both parties agree.

OTOH I don't think sellers would be happy with a 30-day hold on remittance of the funds. Escrow is already painful enough with the new identification requirements.

If the domain name is stolen, using escrow doesn't guarantee your future ownership rights even though you bought it in good faith. You have to do due diligence before.

 

[Emmy101]

How to prevent this from happening again? should Escrow add another layer of security by verifying the domain ownership like they carefully verify everything related to payment! should the registrar be involved in the process ?