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I have been away on business for the past few days and have had limited access to the web, usual check my emails etc but thats about it.

So today upon my return on a flight home after hearing about all of this tragic news about the Air France Crash I instantly did a whois and Im not surprised to see someone has snapped up.

Airfrancecrash.com - Air France Crash

AirFranceCrash.com, .net, .org & .info through GD.

I dont know if the guy is a domainer or who he is but the question I have to ask is why?

What makes you want to own this type of domain?

What can you do with it?

Would Air France shut you down?

Is it morally correct to own or operate these names?

At present the names are sitting in GD parking but I just dont get why someone would register this?

Anyone got any thoughts?

Regards,

Rob
 
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looks like this thread is going different route. Anyway, when many people did the whois, that little known "Xenophon Strategies" is already well known now.
 
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All this flaming I just couldn't be left out.

You're all a bunch of _________________ and you really like to ______________.

To OP....why did you do a whois search and check out the site? I think you answered your own question.

I don't have a moral problem with profiteers for the most part. I personally steer clear of that thing but that doesn't mean I have the right to judge those that do. Worry about your own domains and your own comfort level instead of what others register and why they do it. If they are charitable with good intentions that's great but if not they are still not breaking any laws by profiting off these type of tragedy domains.

You summed up my post pretty well :) Do what you feel, ppl. But to answer the OP: It was regged because it's a domain and an unregged domain CAN be regged. Why was it regged? Easy: Because the guy who regged it made a choice. We all have a choice. And not all opinions are the same. Do as you feel and don't worry about the others. You can think of them as assholes if you want but you aren't a God so don't make it your business. If you don't like it, frown upon it and move on.
 
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I'm a thinking of regging fireflyshotairballoontragedywhenhedranktoomuchandfelloutofthebasket.com now

Either that or give you some neg rep. Hmmm, I hate decisions

lol

L2

You're forgetting character limits! You'll only be able to get fireflyshotairballoontragedywhenhedranktoomuchandfelloutoftheb.com ;)
 
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I find it funny that a company can go register this name to stop squatters getting it but in a month, they'll send air france a huge bill.

Uh, did you ever consider that perhaps they've BEEN HIRED by them and secured the domains to protect their client?

All more the reason for a PR firm, if that's truly what Xenophon Strategies is, to reg it...

Any time a major "incident" of ANY type that happens to involve a major corporation it's handled by their in-house corporate communications (public relations) and legal team OR by a consultancy, such as this one.

When I was still doing the corporate thing, I occasionally had the pleasure of representing my dept. on various internal incident response teams ( a group with representatives from all the company's internal business areas which plans and maintains procedures as to how to handle various crises IF they ever occur. These team members are also the first ones to lose sleep if something bad actually happens.) I can tell you for a fact that, had an incident occurred, all outside communication HAD to be managed by Corporate Communications or you'd get your a** handed to you ... on a pink slip!

Smaller companies don't have the personnel or the budget for that degree of formality, but if a company is in the big leagues, that's just how it's done. Where the fault lies has nothing to do with it - they need to see that statements and facts aren't twisted by the press and they have a responsibility to their shareholders to protect the company's reputation as best they can.
 
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I just read this along with many of the comments. I think I cried a little.. and threw up a bit in my mouth :p
 
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She said she took a break from her pharmaceutical work four and a half years ago to be at home with her children and decided to buy and sell domains รขโ‚ฌล“since it is easy and does not require leaving my children.รขโ‚ฌย Sheรขโ‚ฌโ„ขs given some away for good causes and sold others for as little as 99 cents and as much as $1,000. She often purchases expired domains or ones with catchy titles.

She bought the Air France domain because she flies frequently over the Atlantic often and couldnรขโ‚ฌโ„ขt stop thinking about the families of the crash victims.

I hate liars. Why can't she just say that she knows the domain will receieve a lot of hits and it's valuable. Such BS. Does anyone here really feel that anyone associated with a tragedy can't make a buck? The lawyers, the news, rescue/recovery worker all make money. Why is it so evil a domainer does? Jeez...I think it's pathetic.
 
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I cherry-picked a little from this thread http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/320317-how-sickening-another-ebayer-trying-make.html

Take a look at this guy's initial post (he gave it the title "You People are Funny"):

Yes i am the owner of these domains:

Vatragedy.com
tragedyofvirginia.com
tragedyofblacksburg.com
tragedyofvirginiatech.com

You People talk so much Crap, that it's just funny. Jealousy is something though, because if Your asses had the opportunity to jump on the band wagon and get these great domains, that will be needed in the future, you people wouldn't be saying S*** but will be doing the same thing. I am selling these yes. How do you people know if i am donating? You don't.

And my reply to this:

Oh yes, we are jealous of the fact that you regged terrible domains out of bad taste and failed to make you $25,000 for your family. Boo hoo. Get a job, asshole.

You are the only one who sees them as being more than reg fee in the long run. They are very terrible domains and although they wouldn't be hard to brand, the news willl ultimately drown away soon.

"Jealousy is something though, because if Your asses had the opportunity to jump on the band wagon and get these great domains, that will be needed in the future, you people wouldn't be saying S*** but will be doing the same thing. "

No we wouldn't. You are not a domainer but only a cold-hearted frigid little man who wants to cash in on the deaths of dozens of people. The domains aren't 'great' or even 'good.' I guarantee you'll never sell them for $1,000 let alone $25,000. What are we supposed to be jealous of, again?

"I am selling these yes. How do you people know if i am donating? You don't."

Yes, we do know. You do not mention a charity anywhere in the listing and the entire thing is saturated with sales propaganda, telling people to buy it for its potential. Your petty opening doesn't quite strike me as sympathetic and I know I'm not alone on that thought.

I'm sorry to the mods if this sounds harsh but when one person comes into a forum and tries to beat his critics down with unjustified pretence, what are we to do? This domain didn't sell for $25,000 and never will. If you're worried about your family, kid, join Welfare. You aren't a domainer.

And here is his tail-between-his-legs reply:

I would just like to say, that i didn't want to start any trouble. It so happens i am new to this domain hobby, and i woke up one morning with an idea. Honestly, i spent months researching and studying, on ways to create special domains that would gain a lot of "attention" and so obviously i did. I currently have a few in my collection. The Virginia tragedy ones, was an idea i got while i was watching the news. I am really not a sick person. I just got that domain idea like everyone else who is in this hobby does. So i put my idea basically on a domain registration. I look to sell them, make a few bucks, and also donate to the tragedy fund. thats my plan. Also, i found new ways to get great domains, fast, quick, and easy. It's my own technique. I want to apologize for getting angry at you people for discriminating on my ideas, and domain choices that i have made. Seriously, I am just trying to put food on the table for my family. I wan't to pursue this domain opportinity that has come into my life, and make the best of it. To me, this is the best job to have in the world. just to sit on my ass and think, think, think, and then hit the jackpot with sales.

To all my friends
Relax....

Just wanted to say, that why do you have to say all these terrible things about me. I didn't do anything but register a domain, just lik U DID. i didn't have anything to say about the millions of domains people have registered. theres no reason. yes i left my email on the domains i registered, i don't care. also, you can't tell if i'm donating because it doesn't say it in my ebay auctions!, you know why smart guy! because EBAy contacted me via Telephone, they would never call anyone first of all. and told me "you need to put ur auction up without donations, and make personal donations without anyone knowing, because it doesn't obide by there Ebay policies". The reason is, ebay doesn't let u put up acutions donating to tragedies or anything, so they said i needed to put it up without donations, and then donate on my own time. which is there policy. If i could of listed with information of donation like i did the first day it got taken down, then i would of kept it up that way, but ebay didn't let me. i had to relist, without donations! but in a couple of weeks i will relist them, and make them lower price, and yes i am still donating

Why do ppl BS when they're caught in lies? Is it arrogance or a belief that it'll clean the mess they made?

See? ppl thought he was an asshole, too. It wasn't just me. My earlier, long-winded post holds true.

Edit: Just saw this in the thread. The domain owner tried to justify himself:

also, you can't tell if i'm donating because it doesn't say it in my ebay auctions! [...] The reason is, ebay doesn't let u put up acutions donating to tragedies or anything, so they said i needed to put it up without donations, and then donate on my own time. which is there policy.

And the reply that caught the lie:
You can use eBay's "Giving Works" program to donate to more than 10,000 nonprofits. One of those is called "UNITED IN CARING FUND FOR THE VICTIMS OF THE VIRGINIA TECH TRAGEDY" (it's run by the United Way). If you do that, it will show up in your listing, and buyers will know that a certain percentage (which you specify) of the sale price will go to that charity.

:p
 
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Uh, did you ever consider that perhaps they've BEEN HIRED by them and secured the domains to protect their client?
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So its fine for a company to specialise in buying crisis domains to protect PR for a company who hired them. Which actually failed to take it off godaddy parking but when someone wants to register it for a memorial site or to do whatever they please, its immoral and sickening?
 
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Is it a memorial site without advertising? I think the moment money enters the equation, the true intent of the registrant becomes apparent. When I hear the arguments about others making money off of tragedies, like doctors and lawyers, I just can't help but think that it's a king size cup of denial. The aforementioned industries and roles within the context of the tragedy are usually participants in the resolution of the tragedy and not afterproducts like a website crafted from the strongest keyword selection and populated with duplicate content and adsense. News orgs are about as close to a tragedy website, but they usually create the news they report by having skilled reporters go to where the tragedy occurred, research and gather data and then report it back to a global audience usually for free. This is a valuable service that serves the public and victims families well. A website will simply syndicate what real news orgs provide and add nothing to the data.

I think most people here could agree that those sites such as XXXXXXcrash.XXX are profiteers feeding off of the temporary traffic of tragedies and that it is a rather gruesome and distasteful way to churn out pennies a day. You may call my opinion self righteousness, I call it human decency and more people than not would agree with me.

So its fine for a company to specialise in buying crisis domains to protect PR for a company who hired them. Which actually failed to take it off godaddy parking but when someone wants to register it for a memorial site or to do whatever they please, its immoral and sickening?
 
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i think it depends on how it is being used.. you can use it for good and still earn from it.. nothing is free this days.. it just depends how greedy his earning can go..
 
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i think it depends on how it is being used.. you can use it for good and still earn from it.. nothing is free this days.. it just depends how greedy his earning can go..

I wouldn't complain if he made $10 a month to cover server fees. But that's the extent.
 
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