advice After Sedo, Afternic, DAN, where to list next?

[gericsb]

Just getting back into Domaining this past month after about 8-9 years.

I see the industry has changed and consolidated, but with some new players too.

I have my domains listed on:
Sedo (parked for now, too)

Afternic (it is my understanding that now domains listed here will appear on: GoDaddy, Netsol, Dynadot, eNom, Uniregistry (I think), and a couple more.

DAN (formerly Undeveloped, I think)

With all the Afternic related consolidation in this industry, where else should I list my domains, disregarding brandable marketplaces for now?

Once a domain is listed at, Afternic, Sedo, and DAN, is it necessary to list anywhere else? If so, where and WHY?

Still trying to wrap my head around all the consolidation in the industry that occurred while I was away. And get my domains the maximum exposure possible.

Thank you!

 

[AEProgram]

How about we talk about how most end user transactions happen?

Someone has a eureka moment, they want to start a new business, the first thing they think of is what they will call it. Next, they go to see if the domain is available.

These eureka moments can last anywhere from a few minutes to a few days, in most cases they go sour within 72 hours.

Within that short period of time you must capture that impulse buyer.

If you send them to a page with no BIN, its risky unless you have a phone number and they could reach you anytime, then it's a bit less risky.

If you only have a make offer, this is not a business to play it cool (unless you have something really unique going and you know who is contacting you). You must reply fast.

Always consider the fact that when people have these eureka moments they are looking to share their idea with friends and family. If they reach those friends and family before you, there is a good chance you lost the sale. Friends and family are really good at talking people out of things and most people would laugh if their friend said they are buying a domain for a few thousand dollars.

Timing is everything.

Why you should be on as many platforms as possible?

Most end users will look up a name by going to the site. In fact, some people think if a site doesn't load that the domain must be available.

Look at hugedomains, they know what they are doing, almost always a bin and a phone number. Plus they offer a payment plan. I'm convinced you could sell air if you offer a payment plan.

I wish dan had a area on the page where if we want it will populate with a phone number. I am very curious if I add a phone number to all my pages if anyone will call (other than spammers).

We really are all waiting for someone to have that eureka billion dollar idea moment. If they have money and you have a name they love and they could reach you at peak eureka, you will report a sale here that nobody will understand why someone paid that much.

 

[DaaZ]

Hi kite26!

You know, I had heard about DAgents. Then forgot about them. Lol.

Daaz is a new one on me.

I very well may add one final MPlace to the list.

Domain Agents would be a 4th marketplace for me, which is probably enough!!!

Thank you,

Welcome back to domaining . You are most welcome to join DaaZ.com , it's our pleasure supporting you.

DaaZ.com charges 8% success fee for the names sold via landing pages, if you already agreed the deal and use escrow services its just 5%. Payout via Wire transfer or Paypal.

e.g scenario:

• Sale price is 1000 USD - 920 USD straight to your bank account ( if the sale generated via landing page )
• Sale price is 1000 USD - 950 USD straight to your bank account or paypal ( if the sale agreed offline)

Note: If you are a member of EU states - VAT may be applicable.

Payout disbursal assured with in 48 hours, majority of times paid with in minutes to 24 hours time.

No indirect fees what so ever . follow our official thread for further details https://www.namepros.com/threads/daaz-com-domain-marketplace-official-thread.1217160/#post-8065420

 

[Jeffrey]

Just getting back into Domaining this past month after about 8-9 years.

I see the industry has changed and consolidated, but with some new players too.

I have my domains listed on:
Sedo (parked for now, too)

Afternic (it is my understanding that now domains listed here will appear on: GoDaddy, Netsol, Dynadot, eNom, Uniregistry (I think), and a couple more.

DAN (formerly Undeveloped, I think)

With all the Afternic related consolidation in this industry, where else should I list my domains, disregarding brandable marketplaces for now?

Once a domain is listed at, Afternic, Sedo, and DAN, is it necessary to list anywhere else? If so, where and WHY?

Still trying to wrap my head around all the consolidation in the industry that occurred while I was away. And get my domains the maximum exposure possible.

Thank you!

Same here, I just returned seriously (or officially) last month. I semi-stopped domaining in 2015 or so. I focused on the social media for my websites. But social media has become a monster and biased.

My domaining knowledge was about 10 years ago. I only listed in Sedo, GD auction and Bodis but I never bothered the last one, when I opened it again there were inquiries from buyers, I missed a potential sales.

Namepros is a good site to learn again. I learned that there are other marketplaces such as DAN, Afternc, Epik, Daaz, Dynadot, Efty, Brandbucket and Alter, and many more.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

I am not sure 100% what you mean by listing at the Registry Marketplace

Registrar marketplace. For example, for a domain name freshly registered or transferred to NameCheap, Epik, GoDaddy, NameSilo, Sav, Dynadot, Porkbun and probably others I am forgetting, they all have some sort of internal marketplace that you can easily list the name for sale. Someone can buy it there even in the lock period. Also they essentially instantly transfer it as a push to the new owner's account.

My usual sequence is:

1. First I list at the registrar marketplace for first 30 to 60 days.
2. If a TLD that is accepted, and at a fast transfer registrar, after lock period is up enact FT at Afternic and/or Sedo. Normally at that point I take down the registrar marketplace listing, if afraid of double selling.
3. Near expiration if I have decided probably not to renew I will list it again at the registrar marketplace, since usually minimum prices / commissions way less, or at NameLiquidate or NamePros.

While no doubt Afternic/Sedo/DAN sell way more than any registrar marketplace, keep in mind that they have way more or sale. Would be interesting to know how probability of sale is across registrar vs the big marketplaces.

Also, the lander quality is very different across the registrar places, although all have some sort of option. Epik allow you to fully customize with images, media, links, text, etc. and allow you to have BIN, make offer and payment options with lots of customization. NameSilo landers look nice imo too, allowing text and both BIN and MO, can do payment plans up to 12 months if want. Dynadot changed their landers not long ago. In a way like the new ones, but no longer show the text (it is in the marketplace itself listing but not lander). Of course GoDaddy you can list with an auction membership, even if not listing as an auction. Porkbun now allow a lander for the marketplace they hired. I like their sense of humour, but wish they would let me choose a lander without a pig. Namecheap marketplace does not have landers per se, but you can without cost forward the domain to your marketplace listing, so essentially same.

Bob

 

[lock]

Great post as looking at listing more places.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Isn't Afternic the GoDaddy Registry Marketplace?

I am always somewhat confused myself on the integration. GoDaddy own Afternic, and have for a number of years. Names listed on Afternic do get listed on GoDaddy registration stream, and I am less sure, but the reverse too. Is there an advantage to listing at both GoDaddy Auctions and Afternic? Some say there is, but I am not totally clear on reasoning. Perhaps someone else can answer this better, please. I tend to list mine with Afternic and assume that is getting as much as if I separately had listed them on GD Auctions. There are more forwarding option "lander" choices if you have them listed both places, though.
Bob

 

[TheBuyerz]

You can also list them on Uniregistry, Godaddy Auction, Epik ... there is also Squadhelp and BrandBucket.

The more marketplaces you list them, the more exposure you will get.

And do not forget about a Landing Page so that your potential buyer knows that the domain name is for sale.

You can also outbound your domain names by contacting directly the interested parties throught email or social networks or any other available and accessible solution.

Accepting more payment methods like Cryptocurrencies is a PLUS for your business.

Good luck

 

[DaaZ]

Looking back at this thread as wondering easiest marketplaces to add bulk listings?
Where to list without parking which marketplace? I can say Godaddy you don't have to park and can have auction or bin make offer.

We cant comment for rest .. At DaaZ.com you can list without parking. Loading your names into DaaZ.com takes less than 5 minutes effort. Feel free to DM us for further support or just ping a note to our live chat agents on the site.

 

[gericsb]

Looking back at this thread as wondering easiest marketplaces to add bulk listings?
Where to list without parking which marketplace? I can say Godaddy you don't have to park and can have auction or bin make offer.

Since I am just doing this, pretty easy to upload text files with many domains to Dan, Domainagents, Afternic has some weird bugs...if domain is still listed by prior owner.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Once a domain is listed at, Afternic, Sedo, and DAN, is it necessary to list anywhere else? If so, where and WHY?

Great initial post, and glad you are back active in domain investing. Best wishes for every success.

I guess my answer might be that it is not, in most cases, essential to list elsewhere, but every possible avenue can help.

Here are a few situations where extra listings might make sense:

• If a brandable name, the brandable places do find lookers that probably would not find your name through the registration stream or the big marketplaces.
• If you are in early days, before FT and premium coverage possible, then one could list at the registrar marketplace. Also, this provides an avenue where a buyer can instantly buy and get the domain name, often at lower commission to you.
• I have not done so yet, but considering putting some names at biix. The commissions are super low, but more than that, having the link to NameWorth valuations might help persuade some purchasers that the name represents reasonable value.

Bob

 

[Igor Mironyuk]

On Epik & Daaz also.

And do not forget about a Landing Page so that your potential buyer knows that the domain name is for sale.

I like a Hybrid DAN.COM landing page (mix of DAN.COM marketplace and Bodis parking in one page).

 

[gericsb]

Just to keep myself on track and to provide ongoing updates to keep this thread live.

I have also now added my portfolio to : Epik.

Epik allows you to list your domains for sale in their marketplace once you upload your portfolio there.

Their interface is really amazing from a Domain Portfolio Management perspective.

It lists your domain, registrar, parking details (if parked), rough valuations ( maybe Estibot? Or in house) Etc.

You can clearly see your entire portfolio up to 100 domains per page I think.

Need to play with this more, but it is really beautiful.

Anyway, now I am listed in the following
Marketplaces:

Afternic (BIN), Make Offers at: Sedo, DAN, Epik, Domain Agents.

I will probably try Daaz next since they have a good presence here and participated in my thread

Also, realized a few of my names could be considered Brandables.

As such, submitted these to:
BrandBucket (still waiting)

Discovered Squadhelp where you can submit brandable names that they will register for you. Yes, you only get 25, 23, 20 % in year 1, 2, 3 if name sells.

But this is NO RISK and can provide an additional revenue stream with NO RISK.

Hoping to get some names approved there.

Thanks to all who contributed to this thread!!

 

[karmaco]

This thread is really helpful and Bob has great suggestions for beginners like me. Did you list the names of Afternic as BIN within the 60 day period? What if we list it within the 60 day lock as BIN on Afternic? Is it possible?

Thanks for such a helpful thread

Not a good idea to add a buy it now before the 60 days is up but some do it. Different platforms handle different ways. If buyer is insistent on transfer you will have to wait the 60 days to complete transaction.

Its not a huge issue because names rarely sell in that timeframe immediately after reg.

 

[DaaZ]

Not a good idea to add a buy it now before the 60 days is up but some do it. Different platforms handle different ways. If buyer is insistent on transfer you will have to wait the 60 days to complete transaction.

Its not a huge issue because names rarely sell in that timeframe immediately after reg.

Agree.
We at DaaZ do everything possible to support the seller in this scenario.

We go to an extent to convince buyer to either accept immediately via Domain push or we will hold the domain securely in DaaZ's account until the 60 days period is ended.

Out of our experience, around 2 to 3% of buyers are not happy with the options we gave, most of them are ok to either wait or accept the domain push.

The only advise we give it to the domainers who practice the quick sale after registration must avoid unpopular registrars. If the domain name is registered with a popular registrar the chances of buyer agreeing for the domain push is quite high.

 

[TheBuyerz]

EPIK and Afternic is like Cat and Mouse ! Some of my domain names are removed from Afternic since they been registered on EPIK... so no, domain names added to Afternic they are not listed on EPIK, they have their own marketplace.

Uniregistry gives a good stats about new offers and visits, while you can't find that on Afternic, then I suppose even being partnered, they works independently ... (Afternic is where I got more success, not criticism btw).

For Godaddy, I means putting your domain names on auction, you will get more exposure and attract more buyers (You have to make searchs on this way, it's a strategy I am using).

Also discovered about nameliquidate.com today, worth to try.

 

[Michael M]

Short of exclusive (brandable) marketplaces - Afternic and Sedo get you exposure across the registrars. So if someone visits InsertRegistrarHere.com and tries to register the domain they will see it is registered, but they have the option to buy it. Plus it gives the buyer confidence since they know brands like Godaddy.

IMHO - DAN (yes, formerly Undeveloped) is the place to park (use NS servers) your domains where you get a great commission rate, customer service, landing pages, and fast payout.

IMHO - Outside of that there isn't much exposure elsewhere - unless you are trying to sell to other domain investors.

 

[kite26]

DomainAgents
Daaz

 

[DuDD]

• Maybe you could try the Chinese market

The more marketplaces you list them, the more exposure you will get.

 

[DuDD]

Interesting..
Which sites?

ename.com
benmi.com
62.com
ddd.com

• You can go to any of these websites,If you need any help, please feel free to contact me

 

[Armageddon]

https://perfectdomain.com/

 

[FolioTeam]

Registrar marketplace. For example, for a domain name freshly registered or transferred to NameCheap, Epik, GoDaddy, NameSilo, Sav, Dynadot, Porkbun and probably others I am forgetting, they all have some sort of internal marketplace that you can easily list the name for sale. Someone can buy it there even in the lock period. Also they essentially instantly transfer it as a push to the new owner's account.

My usual sequence is:

1. First I list at the registrar marketplace for first 30 to 60 days.
2. If a TLD that is accepted, and at a fast transfer registrar, after lock period is up enact FT at Afternic and/or Sedo. Normally at that point I take down the registrar marketplace listing, if afraid of double selling.
3. Near expiration if I have decided probably not to renew I will list it again at the registrar marketplace, since usually minimum prices / commissions way less, or at NameLiquidate or NamePros.

While no doubt Afternic/Sedo/DAN sell way more than any registrar marketplace, keep in mind that they have way more or sale. Would be interesting to know how probability of sale is across registrar vs the big marketplaces.

Also, the lander quality is very different across the registrar places, although all have some sort of option. Epik allow you to fully customize with images, media, links, text, etc. and allow you to have BIN, make offer and payment options with lots of customization. NameSilo landers look nice imo too, allowing text and both BIN and MO, can do payment plans up to 12 months if want. Dynadot changed their landers not long ago. In a way like the new ones, but no longer show the text (it is in the marketplace itself listing but not lander). Of course GoDaddy you can list with an auction membership, even if not listing as an auction. Porkbun now allow a lander for the marketplace they hired. I like their sense of humour, but wish they would let me choose a lander without a pig. Namecheap marketplace does not have landers per se, but you can without cost forward the domain to your marketplace listing, so essentially same.

Bob

Lol at landers without a pig

 

[gericsb]

Great initial post, and glad you are back active in domain investing. Best wishes for every success.

I guess my answer might be that it is not, in most cases, essential to list elsewhere, but every possible avenue can help.

Here are a few situations where extra listings might make sense:

• If a brandable name, the brandable places do find lookers that probably would not find your name through the registration stream or the big marketplaces.
• If you are in early days, before FT and premium coverage possible, then one could list at the registrar marketplace. Also, this provides an avenue where a buyer can instantly buy and get the domain name, often at lower commission to you.
• I have not done so yet, but considering putting some names at biix. The commissions are super low, but more than that, having the link to NameWorth valuations might help persuade some purchasers that the name represents reasonable value.

Bob

It always pays to reread your very detailed and informative posts, Bob. When you responded to me I didn't even know what Biix and Nameworth we're!

I really like the idea of having the link to Name worth valuations since I seem to actually have several Tier 2 ( I have only ever seen one Tier 1 among available name's, auctions etc)

So I will revisit Biix again!

Thank you again for sharing your knowledge and experience with everyone here...

 

[AEProgram]

Some names are worth trying on places like SquadHelp aka a brandable marketplace.

Welcome back.

 

[gericsb]

Thanks, Buyerz.

I know some marketplaces have exclusivity clauses/ don't play nice together

And I understand that I can go start an aution at Sedo or GoDaddy.

I was spefically asking about where to list my domains (list only, not auction etc) to get maximum exposure everywhere.

What still escapes me is it almost seems like there is Sedo, which is like a self-contained environment, then Afternic, which is a huge distribution channel, then some newer one-off marketplaces like DAN, which has some nice features and responsive customer service.

So, where else to simply list my domains after Sedo, Afternic, DAN? Or do these 3 cover 95% of the industry?

Thanks!