AdSense PPC question

[and5rey]

Quote from a blog (kunkventures.blogspot.com/2007/05/maximizing-adsense-revenue.html):

Maximizing adsense revenue

Just a few things I have noticed on sites monetizing with adsense.

Having low and unstable traffic can greatly affect your pay per click income. A lot of times sites will see less than 5 cents per click because of this.

My advice: Don't put up adsense until you have decent traffic (500-1000 uniques per day minimum) and in the long run you should make a lot more.

Is this true? I've just started a new site (wpmix.com) and have already put Adsense on it. Shall I rather replace Adsense with an alternative PPC program and put up Adsense later, when I reach decent traffic?

Rep+ will be added for your explanation(s).

 

[whitebark]

don't know where they got that assumption from - you could also be losing out a bunch of money. Case in point - I registered a three word .info domain and slapped a rudimentary website up for it. In the first three days I had made over $10 - that's the purchase price and next year's renewal fees in three days. The site had not even been indexed yet by search engines! Now that it has (its been a couple of weeks) that amount has doubled over the same time frame.

It also misses the point that some websites will never attract that many visitors - that's just the way it is sometimes - especially for very focused niche websites.

 

[Smiler]

Hi there whitebark. Can you explain what MFA stands for. Also can you elaborate on the rudimentary websites you just mentioned. What I mean is that can you explain what you did right about the adsense on your websites and other essential procedures that we beginners should do when setting up a website. Thanks.

 

[whitebark]

Hi there whitebark. Can you explain what MFA stands for. Also can you elaborate on the rudimentary websites you just mentioned. What I mean is that can you explain what you did right about the adsense on your websites and other essential procedures that we beginners should do when setting up a website. Thanks.

Hi

MFA - made for adsense. Just how this is explained is subjective to who you ask. I would dub a MFA website as one that has little to no original content - usually articles from article directories, or the use of scraped content. Scraped content can be news feeds, blog posts from other blogs, or even right ripped off content from higher ranking websites. This scraped content is usually used in place of real content.

The drawbacks to MFA include but are not limited to - poor search results on the search engines because of the lack of real content and or duplicate content penalties, very poor user satisfaction, and little likelihood of someone naturally linking to your MFA or bookmarking it. Google has also seen fit to remove the worst of these from their search results. Obviously they haven't gotten them all, and may never, but if you value your domain name why risk having it dropped from the search index with no guarantee it will ever be re-included?

As for the rudimentary website I mentioned - I always use original text content - even if it is only a few hundred words per page. That one in particular was put up on a very ugly and plain template as a placeholder till I could finish the content/website at a later time. The advantage there is I can get it indexed by the search engines while finishing up the website. Just be sure if you copy that model that you take care to make that first page worth indexing - ie - proper keyword density, great title tag, and enough on-topic content that the search engines take notice of it.

Why would I use such an ugly template up front? Because of the way it is designed. It contains no javascript or other types of coding to trip up or otherwise turnaway the search crawlers, and it places my most important text - the original text copy - before the rest of the html code, so the crawlers are sure to find it as I intended them too.

Then there is the matter of actual ad unit layouts. I prefer the less is more approach when making minisites - or full blown websites for that matter. Just because you can use four adsense units per page doesn't mean you should every time. Let's face it - nobody likes seeing a webpage with more ads than text copy. It turns people away, and if they are not reading your website - they are not likely to click your ads, link to it, bookmark it, tell others about it etc etc etc.

Hope that helps.

 

[and5rey]

but if you value your domain name why risk having it dropped from the search index with no guarantee it will ever be re-included?

Does it mean Google can ban your domain forever, no matter if you change the content later? And is there any way how can I find out if my domain is included or not?

 

[whitebark]

Does it mean Google can ban your domain forever, no matter if you change the content later? And is there any way how can I find out if my domain is included or not?

Through google's webmaster tools you can issue a re-inclusion request - there is no guarantee they will accept it though - or when they will. They say that right up front.

Quickest way to see if you domain is included or not in any search index is to simply search for it by url - mydomain.com. If it's not there, it might be that they have just never indexed it - so don't think it was banned when it might not be!

There is someone offering these autoblog - scraped content websites right now on NP. I feel sorry for those that might fall into this trap, but then who can blame the search engines for looking out for their own users by dropping these websites? They offer nothing original and right there according to googles terms of service it says you are not to use such a method with adsense. And in their webmaster guidelines it says clearly, and I quote, "Scraped content: Some webmasters make use of content taken from other, more reputable sites on the assumption that increasing the volume of web pages with random, irrelevant content is a good long-term strategy. Purely scraped content, even from high-quality sources, may not provide any added value to your users without additional useful services or content provided by your site."

And to make sure you are paying attention to the above, "Google will take action against domains that try to rank more highly by just showing scraped or other auto-generated pages that don't add any value to users."

I'd post that in the sales thread but, people should ask questions, and most certainly read what is easily found! And it's probably against the forum terms of service
:hehe:

 

[and5rey]

Actually I got someone on an other forum to set up autoblogs for my 3 domains. I had a simple unique written-by-me content on one of those domains before and if I remember it well, when I searched for mydomain.com on Google, the results were the pages of the site itself. But when I search the domain now, this doesn't happen anymore. I've also checked these my 3 domains on this site: http://www.iwebtool.com/google_banned? and yes, all of them appear to be banned and they are, as of the Google search results.

I really didn't know this could happen to my domains if I set up autoblogs on them. OK, so now I'm going to remove the autoblogs, create some unique content and try to ask for a re-inclusion. If Google doesn't allow it, then I might have problem selling my domains in future, right?

Thank you whitebark very much for your warning & explanation.

I also wonder if the same applies to parked domains? I know search engines don't like parked domains, but do they ban them as well?

 

[whitebark]

No google won't usually touch parked domains - not by my experience anyways. You could lose pagerank, and any existing backlinks might start to disappear as webmasters remove them after seeing the website is just a parked domain. There are a number of parking companies using google feeds, and google itself offers this service, so I can't see them doing that.

And sorry to hear what happened with your autoblog domains. Everyone considering that route should read what happened to you. And you make a point I've been stressing for some time - if this happens to you, you could face problems selling the domain afterwards.