information 5L.com and 7N.com Reg Stats

[Michael M]

Hello everyone,
I see a lot of posts asking for this type of information, and also a lot of posts with inaccurate information, so I thought I would make this available to everyone.

If anyone sees a problem with any of my statistics please let me know...

5L.com and 7N.com Registration Statistics as of 1/4/16

Generic 5L.com
Total-----Registered-----Reg %-----Remaining-----Rem %
11,881,376-----3,694,022-----31.09%-----8,187,354-----68.91%

5L.com (CP)
Total-----Registered-----Reg %-----Remaining-----Rem %
3,200,000-----2,055,144-----64.22%-----1,144,856-----35.78%

Generic 7N.com
Total-----Registered-----Reg %-----Remaining-----Rem %
10,000,000-----1,205,399-----12.05%-----8,794,601-----87.95%

7N.com (no 0 or 4)
Total-----Registered-----Reg %-----Remaining-----Rem %
2,097,152-----988,097-----47.12%-----1,109,055-----52.88%

***Keep in mind that about 1-2% more domains are registered than noted here.
This report was pulled from the zone file which exempts any domains without nameservers. Which as best as I can tell runs about a 1-2% average.

 

[Apprich]

I wonder how much 4L.com chips would be after buyout of 5L.com chips. Market slowed down now but i believe if 5L.com chips would buyout it may speed up again.

 

[mikenormal]

I wonder how much 4L.com chips would be after buyout of 5L.com chips. Market slowed down now but i believe if 5L.com chips would buyout it may speed up again.

I heard 4L chips could increase in value after the 5L chip buyout, would be good for the chip market in general if this was the case.

 

[Megist]

After 5L chips buyout, Maybe 6L & 7N chips will start

 

[Flipsbay]

After 5L chips buyout, Maybe 6L & 7N chips will start

7n for sure.

 

[mikenormal]

After 5L chips buyout, Maybe 6L & 7N chips will start

7N and I think that's it.

However, I might be wrong

 

[mitok]

Even tough it's slowed down, I still think we are ahead of what was predicted at the beginning of the year

....and after of what was predicted in November (5L.com chips buyout till Christmas 2015)

Anyway, I think buyout is 100% sure thing, and most likely it will occur during the next 20-40 day. However, we should not be surprises if buyout happen in the next 10 days, or if it happen after 100 days. But I would be very surprised if it would not happen in the next few months.

I noticed recent big dive in 4L.com chips floor price. I can think only about big players game here. Too low quantity of those low sales for anything serious. This market is not regulated and clever people with deep pockets can do anything. Just as on stock exchange with low traffic stocks. No matter of market makers You play few months, force margin calls by hitting bid offers at the end of trading day, and it will cause panic and you will be able to buy as many as you like at low prices. When you are done buying then start raising the price by tempered purchases, just before annual financial report, to cause people think someone has insiders info. And when they hook up you get out You need less than $1 million for this if you trade at low traffic markets. Market makers could only watch and cant prevent clever guys of doing this. This was only basic scheme. There are many more details, including custody accounts and many more things, but I will not talk about that

Domains are not stocks, but I am sure some experienced stock traders are included in this chip craze. By saying this I don't want to say this is pump and dump scheme as it is much more than that. There really are potential end user, short domains in .com really are rare, domains really could carry your capital anywhere in the world, Chinese really need some invisible bag full of cash, people really want to make money from these investment, people really count on it, people really invested a lot in these chips etc. However, we all should be very careful, but I think 5L.coms are safe at these levels And I believe they must go up because of several reasons. 5L.com chips looks to me as a best vehicle on the current market to double, triple or more your investment in a short time.

I would not be surprised if 4L.com i 5L.com chips really come to 1/20 ratio. Not because 5L.com chips are really worth 4L.com/20, but because people might realize that 5L will come to $20 before 4L.com come to $3600. When 5L.com chips come to $20, some other 4L.com chip owners will realize their chips loosing value while 5L.com chips are still on the rise. Then they will sell their 4L.com chips to purchase 5L.com chips at $20 so 5L.coms will go more up, and 4L.coms will dive more. $1200/$60 could be price ratio of 4L/5L .com chips after few months.
This looks like most likely scenario to me.
Well, 3200000 is really a huge number, but it is "only" $32 million per year, or even less with renewal under $10. I think bigger problem will be high supply than renewal. 5L.com chips will be everywhere. Some big players are inside of 5L.com chips game so renewal for them will not be a problem.


The other possible scenario is that both go up. There are many other scenarios too Nobody knows what will really happen. I am pretty sure that random 5L.com will be worth at least $20-25$, but believe they will hit $60 while 4L.com chips will go down.

As you can see, I don't have clear thoughts even in my own head about future prices I just wrote some of my loudest thoughts

 

[Apprich]

....and after of what was predicted in November (5L.com chips buyout till Christmas 2015)

Anyway, I think buyout is 100% sure thing, and most likely it will occur during the next 20-40 day. However, we should not be surprises if buyout happen in the next 10 days, or if it happen after 100 days. But I would be very surprised if it would not happen in the next few months.

I noticed recent big dive in 4L.com chips floor price. I can think only about big players game here. Too low quantity of those low sales for anything serious. This market is not regulated and clever people with deep pockets can do anything. Just as on stock exchange with low traffic stocks. No matter of market makers You play few months, force margin calls by hitting bid offers at the end of trading day, and it will cause panic and you will be able to buy as many as you like at low prices. When you are done buying then start raising the price by tempered purchases, just before annual financial report, to cause people think someone has insiders info. And when they hook up you get out You need less than $1 million for this if you trade at low traffic markets. Market makers could only watch and cant prevent clever guys of doing this. This was only basic scheme. There are many more details, including custody accounts and many more things, but I will not talk about that

Domains are not stocks, but I am sure some experienced stock traders are included in this chip craze. By saying this I don't want to say this is pump and dump scheme as it is much more than that. There really are potential end user, short domains in .com really are rare, domains really could carry your capital anywhere in the world, Chinese really need some invisible bag full of cash, people really want to make money from these investment, people really count on it, people really invested a lot in these chips etc. However, we all should be very careful, but I think 5L.coms are safe at these levels And I believe they must go up because of several reasons. 5L.com chips looks to me as a best vehicle on the current market to double, triple or more your investment in a short time.

I would not be surprised if 4L.com i 5L.com chips really come to 1/20 ratio. Not because 5L.com chips are really worth 4L.com/20, but because people might realize that 5L will come to $20 before 4L.com come to $3600. When 5L.com chips come to $20, some other 4L.com chip owners will realize their chips loosing value while 5L.com chips are still on the rise. Then they will sell their 4L.com chips to purchase 5L.com chips at $20 so 5L.coms will go more up, and 4L.coms will dive more. $1200/$60 could be price ratio of 4L/5L .com chips after few months.
This looks like most likely scenario to me.
Well, 3200000 is really a huge number, but it is "only" $32 million per year, or even less with renewal under $10. I think bigger problem will be high supply than renewal. 5L.com chips will be everywhere. Some big players are inside of 5L.com chips game so renewal for them will not be a problem.


The other possible scenario is that both go up. There are many other scenarios too Nobody knows what will really happen. I am pretty sure that random 5L.com will be worth at least $20-25$, but believe they will hit $60 while 4L.com chips will go down.

As you can see, I don't have clear thoughts even in my own head about future prices I just wrote some of my loudest thoughts

I would hardly believe to your scenario. Although i am not 4L.com chips investor I wouldn't believe when 5L.com chips buy out and 4L.com chips fall down at the same time.. It's obvious 5L.com chips will be buyout and will push up the 4L.com chips. Only thing i would think is 4L.com chips may come down until 5L.com chips buy out.

 

[mitok]

I would hardly believe to your scenario. Although i am not 4L.com chips investor I wouldn't believe when 5L.com chips buy out and 4L.com chips fall down at the same time.. It's obvious 5L.com chips will be buyout and will push up the 4L.com chips. Only thing i would think is 4L.com chips may come down until 5L.com chips buy out.

Probably after some time, but I actually think 4L.com chips might go down at first. Not sure of course. I must admit that I get very confused when thinking about possible scenarios.

 

[Apprich]

Probably after some time, but I actually think 4L.com chips might go down at first. Not sure of course. I must admit that I get very confused when thinking about possible scenarios.

Yes 4L.com falls down first and falling at them moment. Not sure how much more it could fall down. But if you believe in 5L.com chips buy out. I would bet on 4L.com chips at the turning point so then you have high chance of getting big ROI with 5L.com chips boost. But it includes high risk of investment because you play with high value assets.. Or just play with cheap stuff 5L.com and stay safe.. Because cheap stuff has bottom limit of reg fee which would hold the value.

 

[S-B]

Yes 4L.com falls down first and falling at them moment. Not sure how much more it could fall down. But if you believe in 5L.com chips buy out. I would bet on 4L.com chips at the turning point so then you have high chance of getting big ROI with 5L.com chips boost. But it includes high risk of investment because you play with high value assets.. Or just play with cheap stuff 5L.com and stay safe.. Because cheap stuff has bottom limit of reg fee which would hold the value.

With 3.2m of these, it's either above reg fee or nothing.

 

[Flipsbay]

....and after of what was predicted in November (5L.com chips buyout till Christmas 2015)

Anyway, I think buyout is 100% sure thing, and most likely it will occur during the next 20-40 day. However, we should not be surprises if buyout happen in the next 10 days, or if it happen after 100 days. But I would be very surprised if it would not happen in the next few months.

I noticed recent big dive in 4L.com chips floor price. I can think only about big players game here. Too low quantity of those low sales for anything serious. This market is not regulated and clever people with deep pockets can do anything. Just as on stock exchange with low traffic stocks. No matter of market makers You play few months, force margin calls by hitting bid offers at the end of trading day, and it will cause panic and you will be able to buy as many as you like at low prices. When you are done buying then start raising the price by tempered purchases, just before annual financial report, to cause people think someone has insiders info. And when they hook up you get out You need less than $1 million for this if you trade at low traffic markets. Market makers could only watch and cant prevent clever guys of doing this. This was only basic scheme. There are many more details, including custody accounts and many more things, but I will not talk about that

Domains are not stocks, but I am sure some experienced stock traders are included in this chip craze. By saying this I don't want to say this is pump and dump scheme as it is much more than that. There really are potential end user, short domains in .com really are rare, domains really could carry your capital anywhere in the world, Chinese really need some invisible bag full of cash, people really want to make money from these investment, people really count on it, people really invested a lot in these chips etc. However, we all should be very careful, but I think 5L.coms are safe at these levels And I believe they must go up because of several reasons. 5L.com chips looks to me as a best vehicle on the current market to double, triple or more your investment in a short time.

I would not be surprised if 4L.com i 5L.com chips really come to 1/20 ratio. Not because 5L.com chips are really worth 4L.com/20, but because people might realize that 5L will come to $20 before 4L.com come to $3600. When 5L.com chips come to $20, some other 4L.com chip owners will realize their chips loosing value while 5L.com chips are still on the rise. Then they will sell their 4L.com chips to purchase 5L.com chips at $20 so 5L.coms will go more up, and 4L.coms will dive more. $1200/$60 could be price ratio of 4L/5L .com chips after few months.
This looks like most likely scenario to me.
Well, 3200000 is really a huge number, but it is "only" $32 million per year, or even less with renewal under $10. I think bigger problem will be high supply than renewal. 5L.com chips will be everywhere. Some big players are inside of 5L.com chips game so renewal for them will not be a problem.


The other possible scenario is that both go up. There are many other scenarios too Nobody knows what will really happen. I am pretty sure that random 5L.com will be worth at least $20-25$, but believe they will hit $60 while 4L.com chips will go down.

As you can see, I don't have clear thoughts even in my own head about future prices I just wrote some of my loudest thoughts

I completely agree with your thinking, the only change would be 1200 price that should not go down to 1200$, trust me you are in the right path

 

[Apprich]

With 3.2m of these, it's either above reg fee or nothing.

Well then you can make small bet on 5L.com. Because on 4L.com min bet starts with 1.8k

 

[Flipsbay]

5L is still a risky play, if you think its a game for those who can't invest on 4L then you are wrong its even bigger then 4l game, 4L is way more secure then 5L, if you day trade 5L you are very much okay but if you hold 5L there will be tough times for you even though the 5l is the next big thing.

I would recommend go for 2 portfolio 1 long term and one short term, sell your short term portfolio pretty often and save some money from your cash flow, until it reaches your main investment you should be worried, then you can do what ever you want market falls or goes up who cares you have your investment back.

 

[Flipsbay]

The risk is actually not only by 5l it self, it's the gap we have with the number of 5l chips and the number of buyers we know of, honestly ask your self how many 5l chips you have sold to chinese buyers so far, answer is not much.

Thats the main problem. We need to resolve this gap.

 

[Apprich]

So many of us think that, this is a small market easy to manipulate etc.. I just put all the numbers on Chaomi into excel to find out how big it is.. Last two columns on chaomi show number of domains and its market value.

So summary is on chaomi 23 million domain names with value 3.4 billion usd..

The total number of domain names: 22,892,672 approximately
The total market value of domain names: 22,171,760,000 (rmb) equivalent to 3,398,517,969 usd

Do you think it's a small market to manipulate? Not sure.. I am not stock exchange expert. Of course these numbers are the fraction of the stock market. Please state your comments.

 

[mikenormal]

The risk is actually not only by 5l it self, it's the gap we have with the number of 5l chips and the number of buyers we know of, honestly ask your self how many 5l chips you have sold to chinese buyers so far, answer is not much.

Thats the main problem. We need to resolve this gap.

Sold zero to Chinese buyers but quite a few to western domain investors.

Hopefully the 5L chip buyout and time will resolve this gap.

 

[Flipsbay]

So many of us think that, this is a small market easy to manipulate etc.. I just put all the numbers on Chaomi into excel to find out how big it is.. Last two columns on chaomi show number of domains and its market value.

So summary is on chaomi 23 million domain names with value 3.4 billion usd..

The total number of domain names: 22,892,672 approximately
The total market value of domain names: 22,171,760,000 (rmb) equivalent to 3,398,517,969 usd

Do you think it's a small market to manipulate? Not sure.. I am not stock exchange expert. Of course these numbers are the fraction of the stock market. Please state your comments.

We don't need 3.4 billion $ market control to lose out investment mate, think about it. if we are talking about 5l market, doesn't matter if its the next big thing or not, or market is hot or not if you can't sell before renewal how many of us has the ability to renew even by knowing our domains are worth more then renewal fee.

Think about it closely every body here knows buyout is gonna happen, even then when you try to sell your names above reg fee no body place a bid why? do you really think because of confusion they have if the buy out will happen or not. NO because buyers have plenty of options to choose from and sellers don't have much options to sell to.

I have sold thousands of 5l chips here at NP in the last 4-5 months, ask your self did you find me competitive when you tried to sell your newly regged domains? Why? is it because i had better names then you? No my price was low cause i could lower my price, most of here can't.

If i was not selling less then reg fee buyers wouldn't have any other choice to buy at reg fee or buy from you guys. So your price tag matter a lot when you are selling 5l chips as they are very huge in numbers.

No matter what i think we need more buyers, those who has contacts are ok with it, but those who don't have contacts will see the price for there domain is 50$ at chaomi.cc but will have to sell at 25$ or less just because of that gap.

Thanks.

 

[dezinerite]

After 5L chips buyout, Maybe 6L & 7N chips will start

I think I'll stop at 5Ls. 6Ls is already considered long urls.

 

[domainking9999]

7Ns are worth investing.

 

[Bhanu Madala]

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