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akcampbell

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What do .pro domainers think about the Registry.pro announcement on 5 Feb?

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RegistryPro’s Advisory Board has issued a statement supporting several proposed modifications to our agreement with ICANN. The complete proposal, which includes changes to dotPRO registration restrictions, new profession-specific second level domains, and a restructuring of the Board itself, was drafted by the registry over several months with guidance from ICANN and input from professionals throughout the world. It was approved by the RegistryPro Advisory Board in late January.

In his letter to ICANN, Board Chair Steven Wright wrote: “The Advisory Board discussed these and the other changes in the amendment package in two telephone conferences, in November and December 2007, with further discussion by email. A vote was held in January 2008, and the proposal to support RegistryPro's proposed amendments was adopted without dissent.”

The proposal has been sent to ICANN for preliminary review and staff comment.

The registry wishes to thank our Advisory Board members for their continued effort and invaluable perspective.

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Somebody PM'ed me today suggesting this was good news for .pro domainers. I read it as bad news.

My understanding is that Registry.pro are applying to add more countries and professions to their registration restrictions. This isn't going to make any difference to the number of .pros registered in my opinion.

If Chinese poets or Dutch florists were queuing up to register .pro, then fair enough, but that just isn't the case. Had they been desparate to register .pro, they could have done so already via Encirca's proxy service.

Any surge of registrations that would flow from adding countries and professions happened in March 2005 through Encirca. There is no mileage left in this as an extension development tool. Why does Registry.pro think there is?

The key to developing alternative extension is to increase the number of domains registered and you are only going to do that by pricing your registration fee competitively.

Demand for alternative domains is price elastic, price cuts result in a disproportionate increase in domains registered and an even bigger increase in reregistrations. You have to set your registration fee at the level which maximises total revenue, then spend that revenue on marketing, advertising, and promoting your extension to your target audience, which in .Pro's case is professionals.

Has anybody ever seen an advertisement for .Pro in a professional publication? At a trade fare? In the financial press? Of course not because Registry.pro have hardly got enough cash coming in to pay their staff salaries let alone actively promote their extension.

The last few years have been excellent for domaining and with the right pricing policy Registry.pro could have got 1m registrations easily and be using that income stream to market the extension to professionals.

Instead, there are only 6,500 registrations which is laughable considering how much interest there has been in other gTLD's like .info and .mobi.

It's depressing and unbelievable that after 3-4 years of abject failure the .Pro Advisory Board think that tweaking the registration restrictions will make any difference whatsoever.
 
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Yes, it is bad news.
a real shame that such a superb extension is (mis)handled by such a registry.
They seem happy with the status quo... which is very (UN)Pro fessional
 
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I think it's too soon to say. I can't find anything written at registrypro or ICANN about what the agreement or proposal really is. If just adding countries, it's pretty lame and won't do much. If they are opening up second level registrations to make legit what encirca has done, it's a step in the right direction. Even if that's the case, they need to do some price adjustment to get some real momentum.

Anyone seen what the revision actually entails?
 
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Definitely not the news we all wanted to hear. At this point I'm hoping the contract renewal in 2009 will bring some real changes.
 
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I just became a .pro'r recently. I will read the changes and give my take. History is history, the .pro concept is a sweet one that still has a chance. I will do what I can to help this niche.

Paul
 
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I'm in agreement with the others here, it was incrementalism, not the meaningful policy changes we were hoping for. Perhaps this will lead to 10% more registrations.

I think dotprofan has it right - time to start lobbying for shopping around the dot-pro contract in 2009. Can you imagine if Afillias were in charge of running the registry? .PRO would get it's long overdue chance to shine!
 
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akcampbell,

Your points are well taken. Would you or any party have knowledge of the specific changes proffered by the Registry. I only ask because I believe, at this stage, any and all interested persons are due a 30 day comment period. Thanks. :)
 
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I don't have any knowledge of specific changes, my views are cobbled together from snippets of hearsay. Presumably, the 30 day comment period would start after the full details of any proposed changes became known?
 
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I would love to get back into pro, but until they lower registration, I, and I suspect many many many many others, won't touch it.
 
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Can you give me ideas how to do such lobbying?

How does one typically effect such changes with ICANN and registries?

bocanames said:
I'm in agreement with the others here, it was incrementalism, not the meaningful policy changes we were hoping for. Perhaps this will lead to 10% more registrations.

I think dotprofan has it right - time to start lobbying for shopping around the dot-pro contract in 2009. Can you imagine if Afillias were in charge of running the registry? .PRO would get it's long overdue chance to shine!
 
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All that I can do as an individual is to make my opinions known - their blog is a good venue for that. http://blog.icann.org/

The skeptical will disagree, but I believe that if rational voices cite concerns about this extension it could influence decision makers (even if they turn out not to be the intended audience)
 
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One option would be to approach Lucas Roh, the founder and CEO of Registry.pro's parent company Hostway Corp, and convince him that high registration fees and restrictions are blocking the development of .Pro.

Another approach would be to form a .Pro domainers group, set up a web site calling for lower registration fees and a relaxation of restrictions, and ask everybody to point their .Pros to it to raise awareness. That could use that as a hook for getting articles about .Pro in the domaining Press.
 
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So do you/we want to start a .pro forum?

Maybe we can start a collection and all contribute a few bucks to a new pro domain name via pay pal and get a forum running up there.

I've never done that myself, but how hard can it be?


akcampbell said:
One option would be to approach Lucas Roh, the founder and CEO of Registry.pro's parent company Hostway Corp, and convince him that high registration fees and restrictions are blocking the development of .Pro.

Another approach would be to form a .Pro domainers group, set up a web site calling for lower registration fees and a relaxation of restrictions, and ask everybody to point their .Pros to it to raise awareness. That could use that as a hook for getting articles about .Pro in the domaining Press.
 
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Congratulations! The following domains are available.

reform.pro
:sold: :sold: :sold:

You can raise the money with ChipIn - http://www.chipin.com/

I agree .pro could gain traction if the registration restrictions are relaxed and the reg fee is less expensive. It hurts to see all the great names available, but I don't have a stack of $100 bills lying around to reg .pro's.
 
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akcampbell said:
One option would be to approach Lucas Roh, the founder and CEO of Registry.pro's parent company Hostway Corp, and convince him that high registration fees and restrictions are blocking the development of .Pro.

Another approach would be to form a .Pro domainers group, set up a web site calling for lower registration fees and a relaxation of restrictions, and ask everybody to point their .Pros to it to raise awareness. That could use that as a hook for getting articles about .Pro in the domaining Press.
The web site could have a template for writing to Lucas Roh, if he is who can push for changes.

If someone wants to write the site I can host it. Then anyone can set the DNS to my hosting company and shoot me a PM to have their domain added. As long as it does not exceed my bandwidth allowance...

I have Base.pro as a candidate for the reform site.
 
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I think motion.pro would be a great place to build a page. Who owns that one again? I have a few .pro's hosted that I would link with it:

parts.pro
geek.pro
ethanol.pro
scuba.pro
 
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