$3000 A Day Domainer ~ OFFICIAL THREAD

[RJ]

This is the official discussion thread for the $3000 a Day Domainer.

Questions, comments, and feedback on their methods and how they worked or didn't work for you are welcome here in this thread.

This is not for discussion of the NamePros skin. If you have feedback on the skin or ad campaign, please use this other thread.

 

[ZOX]

Yes, we are very aware of all foreign laws. In three years we have ZERO udrp, wipo cases. We even went to court in Spain and won a reverse hijacking case.



In regards to our margins, they are VERY high. After the 1st year and cleaning (not renewing) almost all domains that don't cover reg fee (we do keep 2 and 3 letter domains that we feel have long term potential that don't cover reg fee), the portfolio becomes much smaller and consists of almost all revenue earners. Even the first year profits are solid but nothing like the following years.

In regards to overhead, etc... Our few domain sales a month more than cover all of our overhead.

Any sales this month $3K a Day?

 

[3000aday]

Any sales this month $3K a Day?

Two small ones so far

 

[ZOX]

Two small ones so far

Thanks...it seems offers are coming in, but they're small unfortunately...I really hope the economy turns back around soon!

 

[kev]

Kev knows his stuff too people - I was in it before he went strong in it and it was stiff competition like him who were adamantly sniffing out all the good domains right away that got me out of it. It's the truth - it's no longer a non-competitive and treasure-filled niche of domaining.

:bingo:

Back in 2006/2007, there was only maybe 3/4 avid followers of cctlds on Namepros. We basically controlled the market of cctlds on here. We set the prices high (i.e. min $1500 price tags for poker.ext and casino.ext names) and made some good profits.

Poker pk $2,250 May 06 Afternic
Poker md $2,000 May 05 Sedo
Poker vc $1,655 Apr 06 Afternic
Poker tc $1,575 Apr 06 Afternic
Poker sh $1,500 Apr 06 Afternic
Poker gs $1,500 Apr 05 Afternic
Poker bs $3,600 May 06 Ebay
Poker ug $1,500 Jun 06 Ebay

Now the market is saturated. I check some registrars to see if they have released names every 3 or 4 days and have been doing so since 2006. Ive spent ages trying to translate foreign registrar websites to see when they were allowing registrations. Take .cr as an example. I was up at 4am registering names at $100 a time on a spanish website during their landrush and still only managed to get 6/7 nice one letter names, only to find people like Sam were registering at the same time as me despite no publicity campaign by the NIC or a leak on Namepros.

You've got to be on the ball for cctlds and have years of experience if you want to make money. Typos are a different story all together. I spent $350 on a .com.pe which had no alexa rank and no obvious traffic signs but was a popular site in another country close to Peru. So I went for it. Turned out to have 100,000 uniques/month and made about 8 euros a day and I sold it for $7100. It was just a hunch and it paid off. But Ive spent a lot on really dodgy names aswell.

Im by no means rolling in it. I reckon I will be a millionaire sometime in the future if I play my cards right. $3000 a day is mind-boggling to me and if true, I dont know how you've done it!

 

[Archangel]

I have "SEX" in some ccTLD's...anyone interested?

Oh really? Shoot me a PM then lol

 

[ZOX]

Oh really? Shoot me a PM then lol

j/k, looks like its taken in ALL ccTLD's now...WOW! Not for sale for a while anymore...unless a PHENOMENAL offer comes in...I actually had other great names in ccTLD's before, but I let them drop due to crazy renewal costs...

 

[Archangel]

j/k, looks like its taken in ALL ccTLD's now...WOW! Not for sale for a while anymore...unless a PHENOMENAL offer comes in...I actually had other great names in ccTLD's before, but I let them drop due to crazy renewal costs...

I found quite a few good ccTLDs but I'm just not sure they'd justify a $100+ yearly renewal rate

 

[Archangel]

Kev, nice catch on the .pe! Nice to see fellow ccTLDERS come on in and swoop on the traffic gems. $350 for a .com.pe? Crazy man :P

That was a helluva gamble

 

[ZOX]

That was a helluva gamble

That's the name of the game! :sold:

 

[CamMK27]

I have read every single post on this and it has been very informative.
Now Mr 3000aday I have a few questions that I would like to ask.

I know it will take a lot of effort and work and search and research and Money investment and time investment or whatever other words can be thrown in there to make a $3000/day from ccTlds....

But here is what I would like to ask.. If some one who is new to ccTlds or even has a few ccTlds domains and really wants to take an advantage of the ccTlds opportunity then

Questions:

1) What would you suggest to a newbie. Where should he/she get started.

2) What ccTlds he/she should start with to start making some money.. And what registrars should he/she use to find or register the domains...

3) Now I understand that making $3000/day will not be easy task although might be possible even now but what would be the best strategy you can share to make $3000 a month and then eventually make $300/ day or preferrably $10,000 a month which is about 10% of what you are making now.. I think eventhough some may acheive the $3000/day target eventually ( people like Sam who have already been working on this for a few years) but I think if most people could net $3000 a month profits and or upwards of $10,000 a month they will be very much happy including myself. So what recommendations do you have for us to get to that point..

I may have other questions but since its 4 am lol and it took me a while to read every post I can't think of those questions at this point. But this will be a good start and I will ask more when I can remember.


Thanks for all the info you have already provided and Thanks for answering the questions, in advance. I am very eager to hear and learn and apply the knowledge to make $10,000 a month in net profits eventually.

 

[ssamriga]

unfortunately it looks like without at least $5000 there's no way to start earning with cctlds. if you start with $500 it's gonna take a lot of time to be able to buy more names even if those $500 invested have a really good roi.

 

[RegFee]

unfortunately it looks like without at least $5000 there's no way to start earning with cctlds. if you start with $500 it's gonna take a lot of time to be able to buy more names even if those $500 invested have a really good roi.

How would your investment plan change if you had $5000 instead of $500? If you had 5k to begin with, you wouldn't go out and spend all 5k right away, would you? You would probably start with $500 anyway. So with only $500 to start out with, you just have to be a little more cautious. Use 3KAD's advice about finding registration specials (like $4 for first year regfee) and try to find at least a few domains making cents a day. After a few months of stats, try to sell those names for 3x+ revenue and try to find more, or sell other stuff (like spare books,electronics,etc laying around) for the next month's budget. Something I don't think has been completely grasped by everyone is that 3KAD isn't proposing a get rich quick scheme. They've stated clearly that this will take hard work AND TIME. Just because right now you only start out with $500 it doesn't mean all hope is lost.

 

[-AR-]

Just like anything else in the world! It works if you know what you are doing! To earn $3000 a day u got to be willing to invest a lot and at the same time pick or know how to pick the right domains. Anything is possible, it all the depends on the price of this achivement is.

 

[verbster]

They've stated clearly that this will take hard work AND TIME. Just because right now you only start out with $500 it doesn't mean all hope is lost.

Sometimes, time is more expensive than domains. To spend lots of time on domains earning next to nothing is pointless. Unless you've got other money, spending a few months in order to make $1000 by flipping $500 domain for $1500 (if you can) means the road to $3000 per day will take a lifetime...

 

[Sam]

Sometimes, time is more expensive than domains. To spend lots of time on domains earning next to nothing is pointless. Unless you've got other money, spending a few months in order to make $1000 by flipping $500 domain for $1500 (if you can) means the road to $3000 per day will take a lifetime...

Indeed, I started off with what, 1-2k and lost it all over a period of a year, took a year too really make any kind of money, and that was chump change until the last year really exponential growth, then stunted...

Now back at it again! 1st day of a reg, found a $1 a dayer, and a 100/ uq a dayer! But of course, another 3-4 flops traffic wise.

Always a risk!

 

[Brujah]

Sometimes, time is more expensive than domains. To spend lots of time on domains earning next to nothing is pointless. Unless you've got other money, spending a few months in order to make $1000 by flipping $500 domain for $1500 (if you can) means the road to $3000 per day will take a lifetime...

You could consider it an investment. Knowledge takes time to acquire. Wisdom takes time through experience. You gain neither without that initial investment.

 

[kev]

Indeed, I started off with what, 1-2k and lost it all over a period of a year, took a year too really make any kind of money, and that was chump change until the last year really exponential growth, then stunted...

Now back at it again! 1st day of a reg, found a $1 a dayer, and a 100/ uq a dayer! But of course, another 3-4 flops traffic wise.

Always a risk!

:bingo:

 

[verbster]

lol...You forgot to throw in happiness and contentment, Grasshopper Poe...

Perhaps a more fitting philosophy in this case is offered up by Popeye's friend, Wimpy: "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today."

 

[dotnom]

As most of you already said the investment to ccTLDs takes time but this is a rule that applies to any xTLD (g or cc)
So if we take the time to discover the right registrars, ccTLDs, names, legal issues.... and balance it with the research to popular gTLDs we have a balanced time investment that can deliver equal or more profits

gTLD market is over-saturated, nobody denies it but there is a market, people request or are interested to hear. The bowl of fish is there. On the other side ccTLDs are not so flexible, buyers are not so well educated, many of them prefer gTLDs for their companies, can't understand the meaning of a strong generic words and try their luck with dashes or other tricks (all these apply for gTLD too but ccTLD are too easy to notice)

I didn't touch the issue of parking yet. We see CPC revenue dropping and big G lower the quality rating for parked names.
It doesn't matter the extension for the name but the place/country for the incoming traffic.
It's logical to say that a ccTLD will have more traffic from the country that represents but i saw .coms too that didn't form english words to be visited from people of the country that this name had a special meaning. The CPC was low.

Summarizing, we live in a world that trends affect each other. The "see and replicate" effect is always on. TLD awareness is very crucial factor but also internet penetration and internet marketability.

Check for example Rick's site for TRAFFIC cctlds.com to notice the big gap between ccTLDs

 

[trevor]

And you're going to build this "trust/authority" as a mysterious and nameless person who won't verify the Sedo stats and revenue that you're using to get everyone's attention?

We have sent Sedo’s rep on here a private message to verify this information but have not heard back. If we don't hear back soon, we will contact our account manager there and see if he can come post and verify.

10 days after your post above and you're still not able to verify the claim?

 

[sashas]

one question: how do you determine traffic? I've got domains that have Alexa ranks in the 4-6 million range get one or two visits a months, while some domains with no or very very low Alexa ranks (20 million+) get 10-30 visits a day.

Does Alexa even matter when it comes to determining traffic, or do you just follow a 'hunch'?

 

[samuelhr]

one question: how do you determine traffic? I've got domains that have Alexa ranks in the 4-6 million range get one or two visits a months, while some domains with no or very very low Alexa ranks (20 million+) get 10-30 visits a day.

Does Alexa even matter when it comes to determining traffic, or do you just follow a 'hunch'?

Alexa is based off users who use their toolbar, afaik. It's not good, unless comparing to other sites. It works fine comparing google to yahoo etc, but not useful when working out your own sites value.

 

[turnhardtoeasy]

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[Sam]

Someone please update me if they have tried the products above.

Thanks!

 

[kriss05]

From everything I have read in this thread it seems to me that 3000aday really knows what he says. What he wrote in the thread is completelly true for cctlds. As to availability, I would say that from my point of view, if someone has low $X,XXX to invest into traffic cctlds, it is quite enough for the beginning.

It doesn't matter the extension for the name but the place/country for the incoming traffic.

This is very true in case of traffic monetization.

It is obvious that there is lot of available cctlds with type in traffic, say, of XX-X,XXX uniques/month (and even gtlds). These are not only 1-2-3 letter domains. However, sometimes it is rather difficult to monetize cctlds type in traffic. I mean exotic cctlds with high renewal fees. In this case regfee is the problem. Say I know few available domains with guaranteed type in traffic of X,XXX/month but I don't register them because there is a risk not to get a profit from them. If, for example, regfee is $50 and domain gets X,XXX uniques/month, you have to be able to earn $100+/year to get a real profit ($50 to cover regfee + $50 renewal fee + profit). It is the case if you expect to get profit only from the traffic.

it results in conclusion that someone needs to have some good skills in few languages and good knowledge of traffic monetization. Someone has to have time to construct websites in various languages (with custom content, affiliate links etc.) or have money to hire someone with programming skills. Definitely, a better idea is to have a team where someone, say, spends all time for searching domains and someone deals with traffic monetization. Of course, it is always possible to sell nonconverting traffic domains at forums but people don't pay high $$ for high traffic domains if these don't convert well and the name itself is not premium one. Probably you will cover regfee and get few extra $$ but it is not the right way IMO. The right way is successful traffic monetization.

What I want to say: IMO it is pretty easy to find available cctlds (gtlds too but in a lesser extent) with type-in traffic but be very careful, it is only 1/2 of the success. You have to be able to get a real profit from them.