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shendia

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Hi All,

Received an email from this guy about one of my domain names I have parked and for sale. I told him that while I would sell it, I was thinking of developing it and wasn't really all that interested in selling it. Anyway, here are the emails I got back from him and that's when I realized this was a scam.

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Is it a developed site or just a domain name? We are mostly interested in domains without web content.

I need an appraisal for domains priced in your range.

Our partners (webmasters and domain owners) always recommend us to verify an independent appraisal first. It would be fair for both of us.

Do you have an appraisal certificate for your name? Please note that I don't trust free or unprofessional appraisals. It can be an appraisal certificate from www.FastDomainSales.com or www.GreatDomains.com or www.HollywoodDomains.com. It does not matter because they were recommended to me by experienced experts.

After I receive your appraisal we'll continue negotiations.

How do you prefer to get paid: PayPal, check or wire?

Looking forward to your reply.

Best regards,

Marc Miller

CEO

MCSD, MSCE

I responded with>

Hi Marc,

No it's not appraised and no, I'm not going to go there. As a business person (and I assume you are one from the emails you've been sending), you know that a product is worth whatever you can get for it above your cost. I own the domain name (no it is not yet a website), and that's the price it takes to buy it no matter if it's worth $5 or $5,000. I don't need an appraisal and neither do you. Appraisals fluctuate so widely as to be ridiculous anyway. If you are still interested in the name, fine, if not, I really didn't care if I sold it or not. I'm not trying to be rude, just honest.
Best Regards,
Sheila

His Resonse>

I understand you, but usually sellers provide buyers with appraisals. It's a common practice. Independent appraisers are involved in any serious purchase. It's a good practice to do business because nobody is going to lose money.>>>


After this, I told him he was more than welcome to get his own appraisal from any company he chose but I wouldn't be doing it.

Don't know the result of that yet.

A lot of you know about this scam, others of you don't. Don't fall for it. The scam is to get you to spend your money for the appraisal at the site they choose and then they decide they don't want to buy your domain name after all. (They've already got your money on appraisal and didn't want to buy it to start with.)

The real question I have here, is how could they lose money? If the potential buyer is not comfortable enough with the domain that he could do something with it, why would he want the thing in the first place? 2 of these sites have already made the rounds as a scam for this very same thing about a year ago.

Be careful, don't fall for this.

Thanks,
shendia
 
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AfternicAfternic
A very well known scam.

Ignore all emails referring you to an apprasial website. :)
 
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Gah, scammers suck, and its a pretty ingenious scheme.
 
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lol... yeah, i had that for so many times... pretending to be domain investors lol.... Dr. Griffin was the name and he used a free email (drgriffin@ rock.com) .... lol stupid idiots
 
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He hasn't answered back, so I guess I've seen the last of him for awhile anyway. ~ :^ )
 
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That domain scam keeps circulating? Yikes. At least he got the idea to change the email address, lol.
 
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Just got one from: "Domain Buyers" <info @ allfordomains.com>

"Vlad Scherman"

Narly! D-:
 
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Also got a similar email from this Marc Miller fellow. My reply to him was that I treat my domain names as real estate and as such it is the potential buyer that should get an appraisal if he requires one. He responded in much the same fashion as he did to you. I was taken once by this scam once but it won't happen again !
 
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I am really glad that I ran into this post! I haven't gotten an email like this yet, but it's good to know for future reference. Thanks for the alert!

Jennifer
 
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Thanks for the heads up.
 
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Allfordomains.com has a mass email ad service.....

Worryingly, most of us our probably on this domainers database they have created.... >:(
 
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Please note that I don't trust free or unprofessional appraisals. It can be an appraisal certificate from www.FastDomainSales.com or www.GreatDomains.com or www.HollywoodDomains.com. It does not matter because they were recommended to me by experienced experts.

Simple solution to this.. If he doesent like the certificates you have or is not willing to confirm for him self a domains worth then tough..

It may be good practice to have an appraisal certificate but just like all markets the buyer should take interest in finding out its worth themself..

Strange in all the time i been online i never have been scammed but i see so many smart business people being scammed all the time...
 
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Dear Shendia,

I'm new to this marketplace, but not new to business.

Common sense goes a long way. I have something to sell
and your intersted. Make me an offer. I can accept or reject it.
If your were selling a car, would you pay to have it taken to
all of your prospective buyers favorite mechanics and have it appraised? I don't think so. If your buying a product at Walmart
you've probably seen it before, somewhere else for more and
decided your getting the same thing at a reduced price. With domains you can't shop at Walmart. You must deal with a single source seller. Take it or leave it. Anyway, I think you get the message.

This is a great topic for enlightenment to those new to the buy/sell process and scam awareness. Thank you.

Bill Maass
 
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Yeah, I just got my first one of these I think, I am going to put online one of the turnkey appraisal businesses, and beat it to the punch and say 'I do not know what to ask, please get it apraised and I might sell', just to cut them off at the pass.
 
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I have debated with these idiots over email. James Brown, Andrew Miller, etc. and they all have fancy titles. Appraisal scams are rampant.
 
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Scam! Scam! Scam!

If anyone insists on a particular business and you know that company is not the market leader then you can be safely sure that there is a personal vested interest.
 
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I suspect that anyone who actually responds to them gets placed on an active spam list.
 
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