what is your opinion in xyz extension?
A corporate (holding) website that normal people will never visit... How many times a day do you check that .xyz ?This is not Google buying some random domain, it is Google placing their holding company, you know the one that owns all Google related companies, onto abc.xyz
.co was good enough for Overstock, .mobi was good enough for Visa, Bofa and plenty of Fortune 500 companies...If it is good enough for Google than it really is good enough for any company or person conducting business online. This is just a fact.
Flawed argument. New gTLDs are not new technology, they work exactly like the 'old' extensions. Nothing more, nothing less.In my opinion, the gtld deniers are missing the big picture. I remember in the 90's when Hyundai made cars that were unreliable and very low quality. Today, their reputation is much different.
If you rely on estibot you have everything to learn. It's another flawed thinking: the .com sold for that much, then my .whatever should be worth --------. It just doesn't work like that.So many gtld deniers act as if the new extensions are a horrible investment. As part of my DD before buying my names, I looked at the estibot value of the corresponding .com. The total value for the .com's would have been about 60 million dollars. For a several thousand dollars, I was able to invest in keywords that have proven value.
Hyundai cars in the 1990's worked just like Mercedes. Both offered A to B transportation except the Mercedes was more prestigious.Flawed argument. New gTLDs are not new technology, they work exactly like the 'old' extensions. Nothing more, nothing less.
Estibot is part of my evaluation process. It isn't perfect but it provides a pretty good indication of what names have potential and which ones don't.If you rely on estibot you have everything to learn.
Go ask everyone you know: "Hey, what is abc.xyz" and when more than half of them ask "what is a dot xyz?" and the remaining few just state "No idea", then you understand why Alphabet buying a dot xyz is not as big as some say it is.You are questioning the fact that the top internet company has put their holding company on .xyz domain as not a vote of confidence?
I agree with this. Because on my email daily comes spam from .xyz sites.It SOUNDS and LOOKS like SPAM !
+ The non-technical world doesn't understand that .xyz is a domain extension.
I believe there are better alternatives out there
Go ask everyone you know: "Hey, what is abc.xyz" and when more than half of them ask "what is a dot xyz?" and the remaining few just state "No idea", then you understand why Alphabet buying a dot xyz is not as big as some say it is.
Even if they know that "Alphabet" is the mother company for Google, they won't necessarily know of abc.xyz, and also many will just think the xyz is something special Google have cooked up.
I'm not saying it's entirely meaningless, it may send some small ripples out there, but it's not some magic wand which will suddenly make xyz TLD more trade-able. And this is not "only" here-say, it's based on previous occurrences with other TLDs, like Kate has pointed out, and more.
Have a looksie here:
http://namebio.com/?s=gM5UTO1kjM
Starts out well at high figures, but only a tiny number of high figure sales. The list then on the first page goes to "deals.xyz" for $8K and by page 3 (so the top 27 reported xyz sales) we get to "stocks.xyz" for a tiny $1K.
When the TLD is selling regularly at good prices, hundreds per day, or even per week, then you can say xyz is doing well.
Imagine Alphabet suddenly using "abc.pooface", are you saying that TLD will suddenly be valuable and traded amongst millions of domainers and business?
You should do some research and see what BankLoans was bought for ?
I cannot find what BankLoans.xyz sold for, and nor does it matter.
Hundreds of high values sales does not make a TLD worth trading in or valuable, it makes a few names in that TLD valuable.
Casino.xyz - BankLoans.xyz, sure these can be worth something now, but they're super premium keywords, and these are worth something in any TLD! Who ever heard of .vu? Yet casino.vu - $2,500 - 2011.
That was 5 years ago, so is .vu suddenly booming in trade now? Or was that sale simply because it was super-uper-duper premium keyword and not a reflection of 'things to come' for .vu? There is no reason the same will not happen for xyz. SuperPremiumKeywords.xyz will sell for high value, but that has no bearing on the general sale of xyz and "normal" keywords and names in that TLD!
Here are sales of xyz:
http://namebio.com/?s=gM5UTO1kjM
From name 1 down to 10, page 1, the sale price goes from $175K to $8K.
Compared to .com:
http://namebio.com/?s=AN5EDO5kjM
We're still in the $millions by page 10!
Let's stop making comparisons between xyz and com, even future hopes!
Hope is a wonderful thing, but false hope will only end in disappointment
Lol. Stop you right there. Not bankloans.xyz ... The .com ... Click the link I wrote above and you'll see what my point is. In 1998 people said to Schwartz you'd be an idiot to invest in a name you can see in you're URL. Lol. Now look who's laughing. He invested a couple thousand and now he's a multi millionaire
I therefore have no idea what point you are making, sorry. You are saying "take a look at how much BankLoans.com sold for"? So what is your point, we already know .com is strong and valuable?
We're discussing xyz, which is why I presumed that is the TLD you meant as you did not make it clear
Stick with the .COM's .
Not sure as you're too busy slapping your face onto your palms and being cryptic, why not just come out and say your point?Bankloans.com sold for $1500 in 1998.
What's it worth now ?
You getting my point
I have debated with several of the anti gtld members here and there's always no room to argue. I own Heart.Surgery "I think it's a six figure name but only time will tell..." I own Wines.XYZ and Whiskey.XYZ "I think those are very strong investments."
Or, invest and lose... a very real potential and a frequent occurrence among domainers.Invest & win or Be fearful and lose ....
Not sure as you're too busy slapping your face onto your palms and being cryptic, why not just come out and say your point?
As you face-palmed when I stated "we already know .com is valuable" and you now argue in favour of new TLDs, I can only presume your point to be:
"In 1998 BankLoans.com sold for $1500 but is worth more (6 figures or more) now, therefore xyz will do the same and be worth lots one day"
Right? Or do you mean "certain" such as super premium will be worth something? I already said that.
Yes yes yes. Super mega premium keywords will be worth value in any TLD. This has no reflection or bearing on the rest of the TLD names, such as "HousesForSale.xyz" etc.
Premium keywords are premium and "premium" dictates high value, however the value of everything else in a TLD is determined by the overall value of the TLD which itself is determined by frequency and price of sales - ie 500 to 1,000 sales per week at $x,xxx or more. And the value of those premiums or a few other high sales because some end user had high desire and fat wallet has no bearing on the overall value.
Or, invest and lose... a very real potential and a frequent occurrence among domainers.
But he bought .com, not .xyz...In 1998 people said to Schwartz you'd be an idiot to invest in a name you can see in you're URL. Lol. Now look who's laughing. He invested a couple thousand and now he's a multi millionaire
Okay I get it. Schwartz looked like a fool in 1995, but he was a visionary and he ultimately won and retired to the sun.You getting my point; "you and you're entourage call investing in XYZ, the same to burning money but I call it investing."
But he bought .com, not .xyz...
Okay I get it. Schwartz looked like a fool in 1995, but he was a visionary and he ultimately won and retired to the sun.
So you think you're the next Schwartz just because you look like a fool today (or hopeful) ? That the dotcom boom will repeat again ?
People have placed bets on previously-released extensions and failed.
A few sales doesn't mean a market will take shape, and the TLD will be really successful, that is embraced by end users.
If there is no market, then you could still make sales if you are lucky, but this is getting closer to playing lottery than investment.
Also, when Schwartz was buying domain names in the early days (1995), there were few options: .com/.net and .org (if you are non-profit). Few ccTLDs were open and easy to get at that time. .com became the default extension and still is. Now there is a lot more choice, but not all options are equal. .xyz is certainly not at the top of the list.
There's a time for everything and if there's a will there's a way.
Somebody 5 foot tall can have all the will in the world, they're never going to be an NBA center.