discuss What is your opinion in xyz extension?

[domainsg]

what is your opinion in xyz extension?

 

[DNGear]

Its just like a .com.
If xyz started as an extension before .com, everyone would say .com as spam now.

My point is .com came first, ruled the web.
Xyz entered the boat lately, we should wait and see.

 

[marillion9]

It SOUNDS and LOOKS like SPAM !

+ The non-technical world doesn't understand that .xyz is a domain extension.

I believe there are better alternatives out there

 

[Kate]

I'm pretty sure that the domainers praising .xyz wouldn't use one for a real business, and they don't visit serious .xyz websites on a daily basis either, because there are none.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
But if what I'm saying is true, it doesn't bode well for the extension.

 

[William V]

I like the xyz extension. I do get some inquiries and I've had one offer which I declined. I price my names high since I'm not really in any hurry to sell.

In my opinion, the gtld deniers are missing the big picture. I remember in the 90's when Hyundai made cars that were unreliable and very low quality. Today, their reputation is much different. In the 90's, Chevrolet was a good brand, now they are one of the lowest value propositions on the market. Perceptions change rather quickly.

Small companies will use the gtld's for the same reason that people bought Hyundai cars, they are affordable. Eventually enough businesses using these strings will become known and people will get used to seeing and using them. This will lead to type in traffic for span the dot names and unnatural extensions like xyz that become more popular.

Look how fast people picked up on how # tags work for facebook and twitter. The pace of technology is training people to learn and accept new ideas faster than ever before.

So many gtld deniers act as if the new extensions are a horrible investment. As part of my DD before buying my names, I looked at the estibot value of the corresponding .com. The total value for the .com's would have been about 60 million dollars. For a several thousand dollars, I was able to invest in keywords that have proven value. I couldn't buy even 1 keyword .com for the price I paid for all of the gtlds.

Now, I was waiting with my browser open on the GA days for the best names that I have. It would not be possible for me to acquire the same quality of names at reg fee today. And I do think people registering low quality, multi word, or brandable type gtld's are making a poor investment.

Don't buy AnyLongPhrase.xyz and expect to make money. But if you buy valuable single keyword .xyz names at low prices, it's hard to see how that turns out badly.

 

[mad409]

Why is it people like to talk about only .xyz ? Is it because it is already Verisign 0 XYZ 2 ? lol :P

It's because the naysayers said they would never hit over a million regs and now they have and they still don't understand what's happening.

 

[Kate]

This is not Google buying some random domain, it is Google placing their holding company, you know the one that owns all Google related companies, onto abc.xyz

A corporate (holding) website that normal people will never visit... How many times a day do you check that .xyz ?

If it is good enough for Google than it really is good enough for any company or person conducting business online. This is just a fact.

.co was good enough for Overstock, .mobi was good enough for Visa, Bofa and plenty of Fortune 500 companies...
This is a fact too

But since .xyz is now accepted as a 'mainstream', worthy extension as a result of Google's blessing, then I am sure plenty of prominent end users are going to adopt it, and you're going to make plenty of big sales from now on right ? I am looking forward to your reported .xyz sales.

 

[artstar]

Xx.xyz just sold for $59,464 maybe give some hope to lesser xyz domains.

 

[hawkeye]

Does it make sense to you?

It doesn't to me. What does xyz stand for? Is it suppose to be cute? Maybe I am missing something.

Well to look at an extension this way, what does .com, .net, .org, .io, .me,.. etc. stand for or mean? And yeah, we know what they were 'supposed' to mean or stand for, but no one uses or buys them for their 'intended' meanings (except maybe by a 'very' few). So other than the new gTLDs that are actually words, 98% of legacy extensions are not used for their meanings or for making sense, they're just established and already known by the masses as an 'extension'. Extensions only really mean something to domainers, who want to trade in them, and that boils down to only caring about the most popular and coveted ones, not to what they mean.

 

[hawkeye]

Well. Based off what I've read on the history of the internet, .com = Commercial (or commerce), Net = Network, Org = Organization. Get my drift?

No I don't, as I already noted - what does .com, .net, .org, .io, .me,.. etc. stand for or mean? And yeah, we know what they were 'supposed' to mean or stand for, but no one uses or buys them for their 'intended' meanings

I don't see many .anythings being advertised on billboards and commercials.

And the first 2-3 years of the existance of .com, .net, .org you didn't see them advertised on billboards or commercials. Your point being??

I'm pretty sure an extension does not only mean something to domainers, most businesses want to be on the best extension (which right now, is .com)

But they (businesses) 'again' are not buying or using .com for what it means (commercial), but because it's (at this time) the more popular extension.

So my point still stands, that legacy extensions are not bought/used for what they 'mean', but because they are more 'known'.

 

[phantasmagoria]

Why do two of the largest players in the industry have so many .COM domains and so few nTLDs (other than FS's TLDs held in reserve)?

Timing, and most obviously because they want to keep it that way, why allow something new to come and hinder your current investment when almost everything you are investing in is one extension, .com. Why invest in another extension, especially an extension that is being billed as an alternative to .com.

 

[mad409]

what is your opinion in xyz extension?

It has more regs than any other new gTLD, should be good to go in China next year per their regulations. I've always like it...

 

[garptrader]

I'll admit that the following do sound cool...

Miami.Condos
Premium.Domains
Caribbean.Vacations
Plastic.Surgery
Running.Shoes

Of course the registries were never going to give away names like that for $1 with $1 annual renewals. Quite often the most logical keywords in the new TLDs are already priced beyond what would be prudent for an investor to take a swing.

My opinion of XYZ:
Pros
-shorter than many other nTLDs
-no premium renewals
-can be used with any keyword

Con:
-Why the h--- would anyone spend serious money on website development and startup costs and then brand their business on a %$#@! TLD like XYZ? Few long-time domain investors spend much time on lowly .INFO but even .INFO still makes far more sense.

Of course whether I like a TLD or not is irrelevant. What matters is what type of domain names are end users buying in the aftermarket. The fact that a few companies have reg fee domains in an extension means little if a TLD has no track record of generating consistent aftermarket sales. I believe a relevant metric is number of reported aftermarket sales (NOT REGISTRY SALES which domainers do not benefit from) and also your personal history of selling domains in that TLD.

If you hold 100 .XYZ domains, how many serious offers have your received in the last year? If your XYZ sales are more than renewals, then keep holding on to your best names. If you have no offers, then perhaps you need to drop some (because apparently no one wants them).

 

[main]

I think the idea behind .xyz is that those letters are the last letters of the alphabet so it's natural to end a string like that.

 

[garptrader]

Name Administration (Frank Schilling's company) owns more than 251 thousand domains (source Domaintools Whois)
.COM 227k
.Net 23k
.Org 0.9k
.Info 0.1k
XYZ only 1 Uniregistry


The largest domain investor on the planet HugeDomains.com owns more than 2.0 million domains

.COM more than 2.0 million
.Net 10k
.Info only 1
.Org only 3
.XYZ NONE

Why do two of the largest players in the industry have so many .COM domains and so few nTLDs (other than FS's TLDs held in reserve)?

 

[mad409]

Recent .xyz sales, very nice...

http://onlinedomain.com/2015/12/21/news/16-xyz-domain-names-sell-for-379376-at-west-cn-9-xyz-xx-xyz/

 

[decode]

One more simple point.
When some of the smartest people at one of the world's smartest companies chooses .xyz for a key corporate function I think questioning the extension becomes irrelevant.

If it is good enough for Google than it really is good enough for any company or person conducting business online. This is just a fact.

.xyz is clearly an excellent choice, with the ultimate interenet "authority" to back it up.

 

[james haw]

You are questioning the fact that the top internet company has put their holding company on .xyz domain as not a vote of confidence?

Go ask everyone you know: "Hey, what is abc.xyz" and when more than half of them ask "what is a dot xyz?" and the remaining few just state "No idea", then you understand why Alphabet buying a dot xyz is not as big as some say it is.
Even if they know that "Alphabet" is the mother company for Google, they won't necessarily know of abc.xyz, and also many will just think the xyz is something special Google have cooked up.

I'm not saying it's entirely meaningless, it may send some small ripples out there, but it's not some magic wand which will suddenly make xyz TLD more trade-able. And this is not "only" here-say, it's based on previous occurrences with other TLDs, like Kate has pointed out, and more.


Have a looksie here:
http://namebio.com/?s=gM5UTO1kjM

Starts out well at high figures, but only a tiny number of high figure sales. The list then on the first page goes to "deals.xyz" for $8K and by page 3 (so the top 27 reported xyz sales) we get to "stocks.xyz" for a tiny $1K.

When the TLD is selling regularly at good prices, hundreds per day, or even per week, then you can say xyz is doing well.



Imagine Alphabet suddenly using "abc.pooface", are you saying that TLD will suddenly be valuable and traded amongst millions of domainers and business?

 

[Kate]

In 1998 people said to Schwartz you'd be an idiot to invest in a name you can see in you're URL. Lol. Now look who's laughing. He invested a couple thousand and now he's a multi millionaire

But he bought .com, not .xyz...

You getting my point; "you and you're entourage call investing in XYZ, the same to burning money but I call it investing."

Okay I get it. Schwartz looked like a fool in 1995, but he was a visionary and he ultimately won and retired to the sun.
So you think you're the next Schwartz just because you look like a fool today (or hopeful) ? That the dotcom boom will repeat again ?
People have placed bets on previously-released extensions and failed.

A few sales doesn't mean a market will take shape, and the TLD will be really successful, that is embraced by end users.
If there is no market, then you could still make sales if you are lucky, but this is getting closer to playing lottery than investment.

Also, when Schwartz was buying domain names in the early days (1995), there were few options: .com/.net and .org (if you are non-profit). Few ccTLDs were open and easy to get at that time. .com became the default extension and still is. Now there is a lot more choice, but not all options are equal. .xyz is certainly not at the top of the list.

 

[james haw]

If homeless people can become billionaires from writing books about wizards and magic then a new extension can have its fun in the internet world. Work hard and you'll play hard. Invest & manifest

Well, to make your analogy more precise, for a "TLD in it's entirety to become valuable" would be equal to "all homeless people writing a book and becoming a millionaire".

A homeless person writing a book and becoming a millionaire is like a "single" name within a TLD being high value, like casino.xyz, but not the entire TLD.


But I get your hope, I just hope you only invest in premium like Wines and Whiskey/Whisky etc

 

[JB Lions]

Not with that attitude ... Haha

If homeless people can become billionaires from writing books about wizards and magic then a new extension can have its fun in the internet world. Work hard and you'll play hard. Invest & manifest

I think it's been such a struggle for you guys to find reasons to buy new gtlds that you're actually trying to use .com's success story. Rick Schwartz and most of the big domainers a lot of people admire, made the chunk of their money with .com, so you guys see that and say, let's buy something else. That really doesn't make any sense. You reference him but when he takes a big dump on most of the new gtlds, all of a sudden, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

[BigTree]

Most .xyz are registered by Chinese.
You have over 1.35 billion Chinese so I would not expect .xyz to be visible in China.
You have over 5 million .info`s registered does it make that extension success as an investment?
Look just at facts.
I have seen very good .xyz keywords on this forum and no one wanted to pay even funny money.
Try sell .xyz and you will see how great this extension is ...the rest is marketing

 

[domainsg]

thank you everyone
and those who think .xyz is a spam...what do you think about the latest sales?
you cant ignore that there are alot of sales lately in .xyz check namebio.com

however i dont have any xyz domain right now but i am thinking of investing in it.

 

[Shams]

@domainsg few popular sales cannot make a extension worthy. There are lot more sale in mobi io ly etc but still these extensions not get real place in domain market. Domainers still want to stick with popular tlds. Xyz may be rise in far future but that's still a guess. I ask few non domainers friends about xyz extensions. I told them you can register your company name with this extension because your campany name is still availabe they said NOOOO. What is xyz.

 

[Wannabean]

Oh and there is only a very small reseller market currently so if your asking what I think of xyz in this very moment it's not very much but like I said I think it has some scope for the future.

 

[4better]

Regged about 10 .xyz & sold one for low $xxx. Used that amount to reg again half .xyz domains and another half .com domains.