advice Beginner here, question about Domain Parking.

Pringy88 · Jun 3, 2019

Hey everyone,

I signed up to Namepros last night, I have been researching a lot over the past few days, and via various sites, blogs and discovered this forum I have signed up to NameWorth and expireddomains.net.

Through my research I learnt about Domain Parking and it seems a good way to hold onto domains and generate a passive income from them, I understand that in many cases you would need a reasonably big portfolio and good traffic for it to generate a meaningful income.

Which brings me to my question, when looking at domains on expireddomains.net (in this case GoDaddy domains) I have been filtering and sorting searches based on different criteria to better understand what I am looking at and therefore what are likely or unlikely to be wise investments,

When sorting through results based on traffic, I could click on two different websites and get the following results on GoDaddy:

> website1.com - 5.7k estimated monthly page views, £6 estimated monthly income.

> website2.biz - 51k estimated monthly page views, £0.00 estimated monthly income.

Maybe it is because I am new to this, but it doesn't make sense to me how website 2 has 10x more traffic yet has zero estimated income. Is this purely because the existing domain has not had adverts set up or is it something beyond that meaning it should be avoided at all costs?

This may also sound like a silly question, but if I was to acquire and park website2, as long as traffic volume continues, should I expect it to generate income, or again, is it something to do with the domain itself that would not allow me to do so?

Sorry for the essay, I am keen to make sure I learn as much as possible before I start purchasing domains.

Thank you in advance, I look forward to your replies.

Mister Funsky · Jun 4, 2019

Pringy88 said:
Through my research I learnt about Domain Parking and it seems a good way to hold onto domains

I'm just passing through the thread and I am not an expert on parking revenue but from my perspective acquiring domains for their parking revenue is a model that has come and gone for the most part.

Certainly there are exceptions to the rule, but those great domains generating high daily revenue are long held by domain investors from way back...the odds of a really good, or even a pretty good, one falling through the cracks are low...and really unlikely to make to a drop.

Again, there are always exceptions, ESPECIALLY in the domain investing/flipping world, but I would recommend spending alot of time here reading, learning and taking notes and focus on buying a few really awesome names to sell to make money rather look for parking revenue.

ultradog · Jun 4, 2019

Parking is terrible income. It would take a fantastic or huge portfolio to generate that meaningful income you’re speaking of. Parking is useful, however, for owners who want to find out about the traffic that visits their own domains.

I don’t use that site and I’m not familiar with the sort of stats they’re presenting, so I’m unclear about how they calculate these estimated views and income. If they were my domains, and I had them in parking already, then I could get a firmer idea about the traffic.

If those were actual parking program results — not estimated — for 2 different domains, then I’d guess that the second domain attracts experienced surfers who are looking for an established site of a specific category; when they see a parked page they leave immediately without clicking any links.

lock · Jun 4, 2019

51k either develop it or find your buyer before that dwindles away yes it wont be same year to year.

frank-germany · Jun 4, 2019

Pringy88 said:
Hey everyone,

I signed up to Namepros last night, I have been researching a lot over the past few days, and via various sites, blogs and discovered this forum I have signed up to NameWorth and expireddomains.net.

Through my research I learnt about Domain Parking and it seems a good way to hold onto domains and generate a passive income from them, I understand that in many cases you would need a reasonably big portfolio and good traffic for it to generate a meaningful income.

Which brings me to my question, when looking at domains on expireddomains.net (in this case GoDaddy domains) I have been filtering and sorting searches based on different criteria to better understand what I am looking at and therefore what are likely or unlikely to be wise investments,

When sorting through results based on traffic, I could click on two different websites and get the following results on GoDaddy:

> website1.com - 5.7k estimated monthly page views, £6 estimated monthly income.

> website2.biz - 51k estimated monthly page views, £0.00 estimated monthly income.

Maybe it is because I am new to this, but it doesn't make sense to me how website 2 has 10x more traffic yet has zero estimated income. Is this purely because the existing domain has not had adverts set up or is it something beyond that meaning it should be avoided at all costs?

This may also sound like a silly question, but if I was to acquire and park website2, as long as traffic volume continues, should I expect it to generate income, or again, is it something to do with the domain itself that would not allow me to do so?

Sorry for the essay, I am keen to make sure I learn as much as possible before I start purchasing domains.

Thank you in advance, I look forward to your replies.

there are still people earning money from parking
but you can only find by trial and error what will bring you parking income
next, I can't get rid of the idea that not all of your parking income is actually landing in your pocket

I guess you'd be better of buying bitcoins today instead

today is a dip so why not get a few
instead of wasting money on domains for parking

Gabriel360 · Jun 4, 2019

Hi Pringy88,
Welcome to Namepros!.

The difference between the 5.7k domain name with a CPC of 6$ and the 51k domain name with 0$ CPC is KEYWORD.

It simply means the number of people applying for the ads in former niche is greater than the latter.

Take for example, a domain name like onlinemarineinsurance/com may be getting just about 6k search per month whereas another domain name say MyphOtos/com may be getting around 100k search in a month, even with a zero in the name. MyPh0tos would appear to be more globally searched than OnlineMarineInsurance but how many people would place ads on MyPh0tos?.

The difference is in the keyword.

Hope this helps to clarify things a bit.

frank-germany · Jun 4, 2019

don't forget just onlinemarineinsurance might have ( fiction )
has 6K searches
that doesn't mean that the domain has any human typein visitors

Pringy88 · Jun 4, 2019

Mister Funsky said:
I'm just passing through the thread and I am not an expert on parking revenue but from my perspective acquiring domains for their parking revenue is a model that has come and gone for the most part.

Certainly there are exceptions to the rule, but those great domains generating high daily revenue are long held by domain investors from way back...the odds of a really good, or even a pretty good, one falling through the cracks are low...and really unlikely to make to a drop.

Again, there are always exceptions, ESPECIALLY in the domain investing/flipping world, but I would recommend spending alot of time here reading, learning and taking notes and focus on buying a few really awesome names to sell to make money rather look for parking revenue.

Great, I will definitely bear this in mind. I guess it makes sense to just find profitable domain names and put them up for sale.

Thank you

Pringy88 · Jun 4, 2019

ultradog said:
Parking is terrible income. It would take a fantastic or huge portfolio to generate that meaningful income you’re speaking of. Parking is useful, however, for owners who want to find out about the traffic that visits their own domains.

I don’t use that site and I’m not familiar with the sort of stats they’re presenting, so I’m unclear about how they calculate these estimated views and income. If they were my domains, and I had them in parking already, then I could get a firmer idea about the traffic.

If those were actual parking program results — not estimated — for 2 different domains, then I’d guess that the second domain attracts experienced surfers who are looking for an established site of a specific category; when they see a parked page they leave immediately without clicking any links.

Ok cool, that is a good angle of thought that I would not have thought to consider. Thank you.

Pringy88 · Jun 4, 2019

frank-germany said:
there are still people earning money from parking
but you can only find by trial and error what will bring you parking income
next, I can't get rid of the idea that not all of your parking income is actually landing in your pocket

I guess you'd be better of buying bitcoins today instead

today is a dip so why not get a few
instead of wasting money on domains for parking

I actually came into this sphere purely to buy and sell, it was only upon research that I learnt about parking. It seems to be a common theme that parking is no longer the treasure trove it used to be although I guess trial and error can't do much harm.

With regards to crypto, I had a dabble early last year but bailed on it, I just don't have any trust in crypto currency, there's too many unknowns and it is such a volatile market, that said, one evening I invested £200 into XRP, woke up the next morning and it had shot up to £700 in value so I took the money and ran, it could easily have gone the opposite way.

Pringy88 · Jun 4, 2019

lock said:
51k either develop it or find your buyer before that dwindles away yes it wont be same year to year.

Great advice, thank you.

Pringy88 · Jun 4, 2019

Gabriel360 said:
Hi Pringy88,
Welcome to Namepros!.

The difference between the 5.7k domain name with a CPC of 6$ and the 51k domain name with 0$ CPC is KEYWORD.

It simply means the number of people applying for the ads in former niche is greater than the latter.

Take for example, a domain name like onlinemarineinsurance/com may be getting just about 6k search per month whereas another domain name say MyphOtos/com may be getting around 100k search in a month, even with a zero in the name. MyPh0tos would appear to be more globally searched than OnlineMarineInsurance but how many people would place ads on MyPh0tos?.

The difference is in the keyword.

Hope this helps to clarify things a bit.

This certainly does help to clarify things and I will keep this in mind moving forward. Thank you

Pringy88 · Jun 4, 2019

ultradog said:
Parking is terrible income. It would take a fantastic or huge portfolio to generate that meaningful income you’re speaking of. Parking is useful, however, for owners who want to find out about the traffic that visits their own domains.

I don’t use that site and I’m not familiar with the sort of stats they’re presenting, so I’m unclear about how they calculate these estimated views and income. If they were my domains, and I had them in parking already, then I could get a firmer idea about the traffic.

If those were actual parking program results — not estimated — for 2 different domains, then I’d guess that the second domain attracts experienced surfers who are looking for an established site of a specific category; when they see a parked page they leave immediately without clicking any links.

The traffic statistics they show seem to be taken from the registrar, although I have learnt from Frank that it could be bots creating a high traffic figure. Which then brings what you're saying into play in terms of parking the domain and figuring out the traffic that is coming to the site.

frank-germany · Jun 4, 2019

Pringy88 said:
The traffic statistics they show seem to be taken from the registrar, although I have learnt from Frank that it could be bots creating a high traffic figure. Which then brings what you're saying into play in terms of parking the domain and figuring out the traffic that is coming to the site.

I didn't say so

frank-germany · Jun 4, 2019

Pringy88 said:
I actually came into this sphere purely to buy and sell, it was only upon research that I learnt about parking. It seems to be a common theme that parking is no longer the treasure trove it used to be although I guess trial and error can't do much harm.

With regards to crypto, I had a dabble early last year but bailed on it, I just don't have any trust in crypto currency, there's too many unknowns and it is such a volatile market, that said, one evening I invested £200 into XRP, woke up the next morning and it had shot up to £700 in value so I took the money and ran, it could easily have gone the opposite way.

if that scares you
don't buy domains for parking
200 pounds won't do it

Pringy88 · Jun 5, 2019

frank-germany said:
I didn't say so

I apologise, I obviously misinterpreted what you said.

dande · Jun 7, 2019

Parking is dead and buried. Though Bodis is still trying so hard to keep it alive

VaibhavA · Jun 7, 2019

Pringy88 said:
I invested £200 into XRP, woke up the next morning and it had shot up to £700 in value so I took the money and ran

Congratulations and you know what happened, it was luck.

Domains can be somewhat similar, one morning you may find that your 10$ domain sold for 1000$. But to do that, you do not need 100% luck, here you may say, its 50% knowledge and time that you put in to find a domain for 10$ that has potential to be sold for a few xxxx$. Also, you would need some money to buy and hold a few and with time you will realize that only a fraction of that will sell. 50% is still luck in the sense, you may have a gr8 domain but you may not find the right buyer for a very long time.

Regarding parking, i wont say its dead but I will say, its not that simple anymore and specially for someone new.

Bob Hawkes · Jun 7, 2019

Would stress what others have said that some keywords are searched a lot, but no one advertises in them. Other keywords may not be searched that much, but the exact word is something advertisers pay a lot for. Also the click through rate can be very different with different keywords. You need to take all of these into account in trying to determine the ad related value of a domain name.

Also, I would say that parking is, in most cases (obviously exceptions) hard to make much at. That said, if you can turn parking into enough to cover renewal even, then it makes the economics of holding the domain name long term until you get that right offer. Personally I would never invest in a name primarily for parking, but always place first emphasis on whether the name would have value for end users.

Best wishes for your domain activities @Pringy88!

Bob

toughdomains · Jun 8, 2019

I will share my stats....I have about 300 names. Tried to post them on all the major parking sites voodoo, bodis, above sedo...After testing all names for about 1 year which generated ~10,000 real monthly visits as reported by the parking company I received ~ $12 a month
Switching them to a landing page that I controlled that had my companies banners on them and an offer page with a price increased my offers and sales by about 3 fold. avg sale price for a name was $1200. So to me selling the name for $1200 was better for me than getting $120 a year in parking and potentially missing a sale.
here is a list of my domains
BigBoxDomains.com

IPBFlippers · Jun 8, 2019

Pringy88 said:
I actually came into this sphere purely to buy and sell, it was only upon research that I learnt about parking. It seems to be a common theme that parking is no longer the treasure trove it used to be although I guess trial and error can't do much harm.

With regards to crypto, I had a dabble early last year but bailed on it, I just don't have any trust in crypto currency, there's too many unknowns and it is such a volatile market, that said, one evening I invested £200 into XRP, woke up the next morning and it had shot up to £700 in value so I took the money and ran, it could easily have gone the opposite way.

Good call.

frank-germany · Jun 8, 2019

Ma

toughdomains said:
I will share my stats....I have about 300 names. Tried to post them on all the major parking sites voodoo, bodis, above sedo...After testing all names for about 1 year which generated ~10,000 real monthly visits as reported by the parking company I received ~ $12 a month
Switching them to a landing page that I controlled that had my companies banners on them and an offer page with a price increased my offers and sales by about 3 fold. avg sale price for a name was $1200. So to me selling the name for $1200 was better for me than getting $120 a year in parking and potentially missing a sale.
here is a list of my domains
BigBoxDomains.com

Eventually parking at voodoo
Would have given you much better
Results

biggie · Jun 20, 2019

Pringy88 said:
> website1.com - 5.7k estimated monthly page views, £6 estimated monthly income.

> website2.biz - 51k estimated monthly page views, £0.00 estimated monthly income.

"estimated" page views, is not actual traffic, so I wouldn't waste time looking at it.

only a service that has those names parked on their platform, can supply actual statistics.

imo...

Arturia Xee · Jun 22, 2019

toughdomains said:
I will share my stats....I have about 300 names. Tried to post them on all the major parking sites voodoo, bodis, above sedo...After testing all names for about 1 year which generated ~10,000 real monthly visits as reported by the parking company I received ~ $12 a month
Switching them to a landing page that I controlled that had my companies banners on them and an offer page with a price increased my offers and sales by about 3 fold. avg sale price for a name was $1200. So to me selling the name for $1200 was better for me than getting $120 a year in parking and potentially missing a sale.
here is a list of my domains

Hi, I'm Arturia, a beginner too.
I saw you said you tried to post on all the major parking sites, right?
but as I konw, if we want parking on any sites of them,
we have to edit our domains DNS records, to make sure resolving to theirs sites.
could your share us how you did that please

because neither the registrans nor the major marking sites,
they never allow us using others dns service and theirs in same time.
which means I can never create resolve records like:
example,com IN NS dns1,domaincontroller,com --- godaddy
example,com IN NS a-ns,someparkingsite,com --- what ever
example,com IN NS dns34,sedoparking,com ----- sedo

and, if we couldn't make dns records reslov to thers server, then we can't park in....

toughdomains · Jun 29, 2019

Arturia Xee said:
Hi, I'm Arturia, a beginner too.
I saw you said you tried to post on all the major parking sites, right?
but as I konw, if we want parking on any sites of them,
we have to edit our domains DNS records, to make sure resolving to theirs sites.
could your share us how you did that please

because neither the registrans nor the major marking sites,
they never allow us using others dns service and theirs in same time.
which means I can never create resolve records like:
example,com IN NS dns1,domaincontroller,com --- godaddy
example,com IN NS a-ns,someparkingsite,com --- what ever
example,com IN NS dns34,sedoparking,com ----- sedo

and, if we couldn't make dns records reslov to thers server, then we can't park in....

you can try a service like above.com that lets you switch btw parking services with one name server. But as I mentioned I tried this and generated very little income. for me I would rather host a page with links to amazon or my other businesses.

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