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xynames said:

However, I know that I thought carefully about phrasing it as "the same stubbornness and opinionation you find in any of us." meaning, in case you didn't get it, that I was talking about myself as much as about Bob, that I was saying that he's not an angel, that he's just as stubborn and opinionated as I am.

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Acknowledging that you're acting that way doesn't excuse the behavior, though. You were aware that you were doing it, yet you chose to continue the cycle.

Support Team said:

Yes, that type of question is allowed in that thread. Granted, the thread creator isn't obligated to answer it in this case because that's not the sole purpose of the thread from our perspective. It's certainly possible that he only created the thread for that purpose, and we hope members will report the thread when they believe that is the case, but ultimately, the moderator handling the report will make that decision after reviewing it.

Not too long ago, we did add a rule that prohibits threads from being created solely for that purpose:

• Rule 2.6. Do not create a thread solely for the purpose of reporting a sale unless at least the item's full name (e.g., domain name or business name) and exact sale price are shared within it. The exception to this rule is showcase threads where everyone can share partial details about their sales (e.g., "the name starts with insurance and sold for $XX,XXX") in the same thread (not limited to 1 showcase thread but rule 1.13 applies).

Of course, it's possible for threads to be created that get around this rule, but it has helped.

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No I like 2.6 I don't think enough members know so they can report threads that violate that rule and let the moderators handle it.

In that thread, Bob was relentless (he's always that way, in case you haven't noticed) with presenting what I viewed to be completely erroneous misinformation, based solely on theory and not practice. No, I didn't let it go, and the fact that most of my posts are still there means that my responses were meaningful. Neither did MapleDots let it go, he felt that Bob was completely wrong too, and Maple's posts are still there too.

At some point, attacking the content may turn into attacking the man, and of course at that point it has gone too far. But it wasn't like anyone was calling him names, we were mostly saying that he doesn't know what he is talking about, and here's why.

But anyway, we'll just be mindful of toning it down in the future.

xynames said:

In that thread, Bob was relentless with presenting what I viewed to be completely erroneous misinformation, based solely on theory and not practice. No, I didn't let it go, and the fact that most of my posts are still there means that my responses were meaningful. Neither did MapleDots let it go, he felt that Bob was completely wrong too, and Maple's posts are still there too.

At some point, attacking the content may turn into attacking the man, and of course at that point it has gone too far. But it wasn't like anyone was calling him names, we were mostly saying that he doesn't know what he is talking about, and here's why.

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That's exactly what happened. The majority of the debate between you two was extremely informative! I look forward to reading it more carefully when I'm less worried about cleanup. I certainly wasn't going to delete that--heated debate is fine. There was a clear point at which it went too far, though, and I strongly suspect that it was fueled by intermittent unhelpful interjections from other people who weren't contributing as much.

Since when does going off topic a little really matter? If I start a thread and say that I sold gonein60seconds.com and talked about the sale then someone else replies, oh man that was a great movie, and someone else replies, I used to own a replica of Eleanor and someone else replies that they love musclecars. Who cares. It doesn't make the thread worse but actually adds a little flavor to it. It keeps members that may have not been as engaged in the conversation much more engaged.

I think you should waste your time weeding out the thousands of fake accounts instead of worrying about such menial bullshit. Personally I'm tired of having the same conversation with one guy that acts like he's ten guys.

hookbox said:

Since when does going off topic a little really matter? If I start a thread and say that I sold gonein60seconds.com and talked about the sale then someone else replies, oh man that was a great movie, and someone else replies, I used to own a replica of Eleanor and someone else replies that they love musclecars. Who cares. It doesn't make the thread worse but actually adds a little flavor to it. It keeps members that may have not been as engaged in the conversation much more engaged.

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It's rather important for that not to happen unless it's in a thread where it makes sense (e.g., with an open topic to discuss anything) or section where it makes sense (e.g., The Break Room). Otherwise, it could essentially turn into clickbait: you have hundreds (sometimes thousands) of people visiting a thread based on the title (and possibly a paragraph from of the first post) and they are expecting to read about that. It is not a pleasant experience for most readers to start reading about something else.

That isn't speculation because we see it every day. We almost never read threads looking for off-topic posts. The off-topic posts are almost always reported to us by members who are displeased with their presence. If members enjoyed them, then they wouldn't be reported and we wouldn't bother removing them in most cases. An exception to this is in support threads where it is important to us to have them organized and helps us provide better and clearer support.

hookbox said:

I think you should waste your time weeding out the thousands of fake accounts instead of worrying about such menial bullsh*t.

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NamePros uses state-of-the-art technology similar to what banks use to detect fraud and catch duplicate accounts. However, no technology is perfect, so if you suspect something was missed, please report it, and we'll do manual research to check.

hookbox said:

Personally I'm tired of having the same conversation with one guy that acts like he's ten guys.

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Most of the time, if someone has more than one account, then they're likely a Gold member (or recently were). Multiple Gold accounts are allowed. However, more often than not, when someone suspects they're talking to the same person on multiple different accounts, they're mistaken and they're actually distinct people. We have ways of confirming this with a high degree accuracy, but it can never be for certain.

NamePros has dedicated more to that technology than anyone reasonable would find practical, but we felt it was just as important as you, so we continue to spend unreasonable amounts of time on it. The integrity and security of NamePros is paramount.

Please start a new thread if you'd like to discuss that topic further (i.e., accounts).

As for the topic of a thread, it's important to a lot of members and understandably so.

So we spoke a lot last week, about staying on topic and to quote Led Zeppelin what is and what should never be.

But I would love for someone to explain why the rules are not being upheld in this thread https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...-and-rob-monster.1128748/page-76#post-7260132

Who is the mod going to get the project? Because most posts are off topic, reviews, who is being reviewed? Nazis, Republicans, Liberals, Atheism, Christianity? Because this is certainly not a review of a domain registrar.

equity78 said:

So we spoke a lot last week, about staying on topic and to quote Led Zeppelin what is and what should never be.

But I would love for someone to explain why the rules are not being upheld in this thread https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...-and-rob-monster.1128748/page-76#post-7260132

Who is the mod going to get the project? Because most posts are off topic, reviews, who is being reviewed? Nazis, Republicans, Liberals, Atheism, Christianity? Because this is certainly not a review of a domain registrar.

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That was addressed in full here:

• https://www.namepros.com/posts/7169300/

All threads about a specific company or person are considered Reviews (Does not apply to threads about multiple companies like “Best Registrar?”). That is somewhat atypical of the dictionary definition but that’s how NamePros defines it for categorization purposes sitewide. If a review is designed by the OP to promote, then it’ll be moved to Promotional instead of Reviews.

Hope that helps,

Eric Lyon said:

That was addressed in full here:

• https://www.namepros.com/posts/7169300/

All threads about a specific company or person go in Reviews. That is somewhat atypical of the dictionary definition but that’s how NamePros defines it for categorization purposes sitewide.

Hope that helps,

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Oh thanks for getting back Eric, ok that addresses the section, but there are certainly plenty of off topic posts, which last week seemed to border on a capital offense.

equity78 said:

Oh thanks for getting back Eric, ok that addresses the section, but there are certainly plenty of off topic posts, which last week seemed to border on a capital offense.

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Surprisingly, there haven’t been many reports in that thread recently (We only look when there are reports) but here’s what I told another member about that thread (And the link explains):

I tried reading the thread but there is just too much and a lot of things that would need to be addressed, but it's impractical for me to do that at this point given how much time it would take (I wouldn't be able to do anything else). I'll have to defer to this:

• https://www.namepros.com/posts/7169300/

If you notice any blatant rule violations in a post like threats, name calling, or something else, please use the Report link underneath the post and a moderator will be able to review and handle it accordingly.

The link explains it best.


Hope that helps,

Generally (Almost Always):

If you notice a thread being heavily moderated, then that means there is at least 1 member (Or usually more) reporting posts in it because they care about the rule violations taking place.

The opposite is equally true, if you don’t see a lot of moderation in a thread, then no members care enough to report the rule violations taking place.

That thread is largely in the “members don’t care” category when it comes to reports.

If no reports, then we don’t look at it. Paul even mentioned turning over most of the moderation to the community and then what I just explained would be more clear (Shown on posts), we’ll see how that goes.

Eric Lyon said:

Surprisingly, there haven’t been many reports in that thread recently (We only look when there are reports) but here’s what I told another member about that thread (And the link explains):

I tried reading the thread but there is just too much and a lot of things that would need to be addressed, but it's impractical for me to do that at this point given how much time it would take (I wouldn't be able to do anything else). I'll have to defer to this:

• https://www.namepros.com/posts/7169300/

If you notice any blatant rule violations in a post like threats, name calling, or something else, please use the Report link underneath the post and a moderator will be able to review and handle it accordingly.

The link explains it best.


Hope that helps,

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Oh Eric I agree it would be an unbelievable task for a mod, that's why I said who wants that project. But you would have to agree the thread is mostly off topic.

I mean can I start a thread about what's going on with you and question your politics or religious beliefs in a review of Namepros or Scorpion Agency?

You might not see reports but I can tell you people privately and some have posted about that thread alone being a reason why they want nothing to do with Namepros. So you guys do what you like it's your show.

I would love to hear what you and Paul believe is the proper topic of that thread and again is that fair game for everyone?

Support Team said:

At NamePros, we have strictly defined "on topic" in this rule:

• Rule 1.15. Organization. All content must be organized in an appropriate section ("forum"). Posts and messages must be on topic and relevant where submitted (e.g., a discussion thread or direct message).
  • Note: The topic is decided by the title and the first post/message; subsequent posts (even by the topic's creator) do not change the topic. If a topic's creator changes the title or first post/message within the edit time limits, then previous posts/messages will be unaffected and the new topic will apply moving forward only.

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I want to know what is and what isn't on topic in this thread?

https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...-and-rob-monster.1128748/page-76#post-7260132

Strict was your word

As far as that Rob Monster thread, the response I got (this was a little while back) was:
<<thread 'Whats going on with Epik and Rob Monster?' - Heated Debate / It appears that the thread has gone off and back on topic a few times, however, most of the sub-topics were being used as comparisons to try and find the boundary of where ethics starts and stops.>>

i.e. the Mod seems to be saying that it is more or less on topic. I don't agree, but anyway that is the response I got. I'd say that since then, it has actually gone even more off topic.


Really the bottom line is that it comes down to interpretation. Are the US immigration laws today any different from what was on the books six years ago? No! But the current administration chooses to interpret and enforce them differently.

xynames said:

As far as that Rob Monster thread, the response I got (this was a little while back) was:
<<thread 'Whats going on with Epik and Rob Monster?' - Heated Debate / It appears that the thread has gone off and back on topic a few times, however, most of the sub-topics were being used as comparisons to try and find the boundary of where ethics starts and stops.>>

i.e. the Mod seems to be saying that it is more or less on topic. I don't agree, but anyway that is the response I got. I'd say that since then, it has actually gone even more off topic.


Really the bottom line is that it comes down to interpretation. Are the US immigration laws today any different from what was on the books six years ago? No! But the current administration chooses to interpret and enforce them differently.

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Thanks, the explanation seems problematic, it opens the door to doing that with anyone.

To be fair I do think the fact that Rob posts so prominently in that thread and has not asked for it to be closed is one factor.

It sets a dangerous precedent, I mean if someone starts a thread, :What’s the deal with so and so and their company name and just blasts their religious or political beliefs, how is that thread closed?

equity78 said:

I want to know what is and what isn't on topic in this thread?

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According to the title and first post (Which defines the topic), everything currently going on with Epik or Rob is on topic. When Rob introduces new topics about himself and his beliefs, that’s on topic with what the thread starter defined.

No mods can take on that “project”, the reason is here:

• https://www.namepros.com/posts/7169300/

Very serious rule violations in the thread should be reported.

Thanks for your help,

equity78 said:

I would love to hear what you and Paul believe is the proper topic of that thread and again is that fair game for everyone?

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I’m staying out of it, or I’m going to get bopped over the head again by my coworkers. “Go back to your servers!” “But it’s lonely in the server room...”