discuss Blatantly Racist Domains

Ategy.com said:

KillBlacks.org

Another one .. now in closeout at $8.. which means it's been kicking around the GoDaddy Platform upwards of 2 Weeks:

https://auctions.godaddy.com/trpItemListing.aspx?miid=239674979

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Tagging @Joe Styler so they can be alerted.

Grilled said:

Tagging @Joe Styler so they can be alerted.

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Let me buy this first

I sent them an email about an hour ago .. and it's already down (or somebody bought it because I posted it here).

You may feel better but you've accomplished nothing.

These domains will be re-registered when they drop, you're just bringing attention to them.

I wouldn't use it as an opportunity to slander someone

LegalizeRape.org

I'm beginning to think GoDaddy's filtration process might not actually exist?

https://auctions.godaddy.com/trpItemListing.aspx?miid=240156985

Unfortunately there are people that think these types of domains are funny, okay, even profitable.

I don't outright support banning anything, but I do believe that each platform has duty to ensure quality and to prevent this type of domain from getting on their platform.

These issues are real life issues and I find that the internet mirrors real life to some extent so I'm in no way surprised. It just reminds me that people with these types of thoughts exist.

Let the people that auction it and the people that buy it live with the stigma of having interest in this type of negative domain.

Well .. it's an expiring domain .. 10 years old!

I'm am actually VERY VERY pro free speech .. my issue is that I'm paying GoDaddy thousands of dollars via expiring domains ... every single cent of the auction prices and closeout prices on expiring domains go straight into their pockets.

My issue is them "profiting" on such names .. it's usually my personal choice to not do business with companies that do endorse the actions described in the domains I've posted in this thread.

BUT .. when it comes to finding value in expiring auctions .. GoDaddy is essentially a monopoly .. given the domains and price range I target, there simply is no other significant choice ... as such I choose to bring these issues public and hopefully force them to get a little more serious on their filtration process.

I do understand the slippery slope argument .. but I'm not even talking about the right for this domain to exist or not .. I'm simply talking about whether a company I support via my many purchases actually profits from such names or not .. really big difference.

Otherwise the debate of whether the domain should even be allowed to exist is more of an ICANN issue I'd think. And I'll be the first to agree that that is a very different can of worms ...



UPDATE: The domain has been removed (less than an hour after I emailed them).

On auction today: Rape.me

https://godaddy.com/domain-auctions/rape-me-264980831

are you ****** kidding me? Thanks @Ategy.com I'll take care of it.

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Paul Nicks said:

are you ****** kidding me? Thanks @Ategy.com I'll take care of it.

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LMAO .. I love that part of your reply was censored! Again .. my issues are not with rude/racist terms, but only with specific calls to action and other very rare extreme domains. There have even been some I was on the fence about that I reported and let them decide, they've almost always removed anything I've reported.

Anyhow ,, yes .. I sent an email to my rep (JL, he deserves a gold star for having to deal with my countless issues and lengthy bug reports over the years) and also sent it to "s___a@GoD_ddy.com" before posting here. My rep replied before the start of the auction day, so I'm assuming it had already been taken care of, although I've had weird sleeping hours lately and was actually asleep until just now, so wasn't able to verify.

"Fist.Me" was also on auction today, but as weird as it might sound I don't have a problem with that one being auctioned (as long as it's tagged/filtered as "adult"), there isn't anything illegal with that at all, the difference with rape is that by definition it isn't consensual and thus illegal.

Again, I don't think it's the end of the world that a few bad names slip through because each domain is unique and there are always going to be creative (hard to filter) ways to create domains with highly illegal calls to action. But how the left-of-dot "Rape" wasn't at least flagged for a manual check really raises a red flag as to your screening process at GoDaddy.

Ironically, my threshold is actually very high for this sort of domain. For example if it had been Rape.org or almost any other TLD where there was no specific call to action involved I would have been ok with that going to auction because there is potentially positive end-user usage (like for rape counselling for example). There are tons of other ways domains that include rape could be acceptable (ex: HelpRapeVictims.com, StopRape.com, etc)

I'm guessing your system is automated, so my recommendation to you is maybe widen your filter (add more keywords), then have those domains manually checked by an employee to see if it really is a domain that should be removed or not.

I'll be the first to say it's impossible to be perfect on this sort of thing .. and am not expecting you stop them all (you've got me for that .. lol) .. but clearly the fact Rape.me got through your process shows that maybe you're only relying on automated filters with no human component.

At some point it would be great if you or @Joe Styler shared with us the exact process, as well as how many domains are removed (not just flagged "Adult") on average per day with that system?


IMPORTANT: To those wondering, what you don't see in the background is that I sometimes email GoDaddy directly to notify them about such domains. For the most part they always reply with a thanks for notifying them and the domain is removed. The one obvious exception that really bothered me was this one: https://www.namepros.com/threads/nudekids-com-auctioned-134-at-godaddy.1065428/ (as detailed in that discussion it wasn't even the fact they let the domain get through that bothered me the most, but more the subsequent ambiguous communication and the way it was ultimately sold to HugeDomains).

Again, I don't question at all the moral values/judgement of GoDaddy on whether to list a very rare specific domain or not (I don't doubt they would IF they see it) .. my issue is more with their filtration process. This isn't a big Anti-GoDaddy protest .. as I have zero doubt in my mind that (over all) GoDaddy wants to do the right thing and not profit from hate speech, nor from calls to action of extremely illegal/immoral things. But I also think that by posting the names here it might light a bit of a fire under their butts to improve their filtration methods .. or to hire me to help them .. lol .. that being said .. I'm still waiting for @Joe Styler (or @Paul Nicks) to let me know if their slide is Steamie friendly or not ???
https://www.namepros.com/posts/6737259
http://www.SteamieTheHotDog.com

After looking at it further, the automated system had a bug introduced through a recent update. That term, and those like it should never have been allowed on our site. We're still working to fix the issue.

FYI .. RapeWorld.com at auction today at GoDaddy ...

Paul Nicks said:

After looking at it further, the automated system had a bug introduced through a recent update. That term, and those like it should never have been allowed on our site. We're still working to fix the issue.

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Thanks for a very honest answer Paul! This is why I always get upset when people always scream about conspiracy theories as to the "millions of ways" registrars are out to get us! lol .. I know GD is a really big platform with lots of moving parts and interconnected departments that often have situations where the right hand has no clue what the left hand is doing .. what most people don't realise is that it's actually an unfortunate reality with huge companies.

I've crossed quite a few bugs over the last couple years at GD (reported a large number .. really feel sorry for my rep having to deal with all my complaining ,, even if I am completely justified .. lol). That being dais .. unfortunately I've lost 3 domains in the last couple of days because of two different bugs/issues. Are you guys doing a lot of changes under the hood these days? It can be excruciatingly frustrating when site/platform modifications and tweaks end up seriously messing with our routines and even costing us valuable domains on occasion as it has me this week. Is there a change log anywhere? Where minor modifications to the platform are listed?

On auction today ... WatchPeopleDie.com

Why would you turn this political by making a stupid ‘sell it to Donald trump’ option? Please enlighten me how he is racist. Please. Please enlighten me on how Making a dumb—- remark like that is appropriate to domaining. That is in itself offensive.

RogueWriter said:

Please enlighten me how he is racist.

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You tell me ??? I never even said he was racist .. lol

Ategy.com said:

You tell me ??? I never even said he was racist .. lol

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You create a thread about what do you do with racist domains then one of your solutions is to sell them to Donald Trump, the implication being he could make use of them. Because why? Why are you suggesting that Donald Trump would need racist domains? You knew exactly what you were implying and I don’t like it.

This thread is idiotic on so many levels.

"My issue is them "profiting" on such names"

Not all domains in expired/closeouts are registered at GoDaddy, but many are, so they could have ALREADY profited from these.

Anyway, there's more than one reason why a person might buy a weird domain. What is the big deal with GoDaddy taking their money for it? It's their choice to bid on it, just as it would be their choice to register it.

We know that GoDaddy would never support murder, rape, or whatever else, so why does it matter if GoDaddy gets more money? You are COMPLAINING that a racist and/or violent person might have to pay MORE than reg fee for a disturbing domain, if it happens to be one of those people bidding. Why the hell would you care? Guys, guys, we've gotta let it drop completely so we can let them have it for $10 instead of $25 or more. This is very important. We can't let GoDaddy profit more than that! We can't let them take any more of these evil people's money beyond the registration fee!

"I'm am actually VERY VERY pro free speech .."

Yet you're bothered by a few domain names.

Domains are just a string of characters registered in a database with no website or intention or context attached. I could buy something "bad" and do something GOOD with it. KillAllBlackPeople.com being a "call to action" domain doesn't matter at all if there's no context. NOBODY is uttering those words, they're just in a domain name. If somebody buys the domain, it doesn't mean they agree with what the words say.
I can also buy RapeCounseling.com and put something really bad on it. Is it the seller's fault for not vetting me if I do? They sold it to me for thousands of dollars....how horrible of them. They profited from this....

BTW, gasthejews is listed on Afternic.
https://www.afternic.com/domain/gasthejews.com
and killallmen that's just silly though.
https://www.afternic.com/domain/killallmen.com

So are you going to whine about these? Obviously, Afternic shouldn't put them on the front page, but otherwise, what's the problem?

There doesn't even seem to be a solution to this problem you've made up. If you keep the domain off Afternic, it could still sell at expired auction or be re-registered by a weirdo eventually. I guess people like you who are obsessed would have to hoard all the bad phrases in the world just to keep a few crazy people from getting them. Sounds expensive.

wormfood said:

There doesn't even seem to be a solution to this problem you've made up. If you keep the domain off Afternic, it could still sell at expired auction or be re-registered by a weirdo eventually. I guess people like you who are obsessed would have to hoard all the bad phrases in the world just to keep a few crazy people from getting them. Sounds expensive.

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wait no, GoDaddy would still be profiting from bad domains if all the good people regged them at GoDaddy to keep them away from the bad people! we can't have that.

if you keep them out of godaddy marketplaces or expired/closeouts, GoDaddy still profits when anyone regs them, so what is the point of this

gasthejews is listed by hugedomains. godaddy and hugedomains are automated, so no human has to sit there with bad images put in their head from bad domains (well, now we have to look at them, because you made this thread). and no one has to bothered for whatever reason because they own these domains.
though it seems really unlikely, some dumbass racist might be forced by hugedomains to pay a lot of money to get what he wants.

On auction today: RapeGirls.com

@Paul Nicks .. how's that bug fix coming along?

Ategy.com said:

On auction today: RapeGirls.com

@Paul Nicks .. how's that bug fix coming along?

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Yikes. Looks like it has now been removed from Afternic. What remains is the DomainTools WHOIS sale link that will hopefully expire after a couple of days.

I'm a Jewish, more than a half of my grandparents relatives were annihilated in Belorussia during WWII, but i don't have any problem with gasthejews domain.

The ones who cause the most share of antisemitism these days - are mouth shutters, like Anti-Defamation League, Wiesenthal fund, other fighters with Holocaust deniers, etc etc. Because they try to shut the mouth of the stupid ones, to impose their only right view and opinion on everything or at least something. And then they call other fascists. How nice. No wonder people don't like Jews after that, no one likes when someone shuts others.

Please stop protect us. I didn't ask any moralists and snowflakes to protect me from bad domains. What we all need to protect - is free speech, is the truth, is free access to every information non limited by anyone.

Ategy.com said:

On auction today: RapeGirls.com

@Paul Nicks .. how's that bug fix coming along?

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Just to toss something out there...

What if a rape support group for girls wanted to use that name for their support group?

Looking at it from that side would it still be so bad?

I'm kind of with @golan on this one, we don't so much need a domain police for the domain name itself but much more for how the domain is used once it goes live.

One should not judge a blank canvas until the artwork has been put on top and there are numerous ways for offensive domains to be marketed, where does it stop? I mean what about a Trump domain? That's pretty offensive to a lot of people.

Ategy.com said:

KillBlacks.org

Another one .. now in closeout at $8.. which means it's been kicking around the GoDaddy Platform upwards of 2 Weeks:

https://auctions.godaddy.com/trpItemListing.aspx?miid=239674979

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Yup, I hate black flies too, they should all be killed. Lets make an organization to limit the suffering to our animals by these pesky creatures.

Depending on how you look at any canvas it is only offensive once you populate the site with offensive content. The domain is like a pencil and paper. If someone writes hate do we ban the pencil and paper?