discuss What are your predictions for domains in 2017?

168 · Dec 29, 2016

Margins in .com will decline
High end sales will decline
New Regs in .com will decline
Total Regs in .com .net, .org will decline

New "G"s will be promoted more often by end users.

Regs for New "G"'s will net increase by 10 +million

Ave. sales price for .Club will increase 30+%

Start-ups using extensions other than .com will increase to 35+%

Marijuana portfolios will be in high demand. no pun intended

Happy Hunting!

Kate · Dec 29, 2016

My own outlook is slightly different, but it's just predictions

Hopefully there is something for everyone

In no particular order:

New extensions will continue to underperform. Numbers will shrink after overdue purges.
More registries in trouble financially. Shares plummeting further.
Shake-up in the parking industry: I wouldn't be surprised to see one or more parking outfits shut down.
.com will continue to grow
LL/LLL.com will remain hot commodities
ccTLDs will not be affected by geoTLDs, that will continue to struggle
More ccTLDs releasing short domains (1- & 2-character domains)
Registries will attempt to sustain registrations with freebies like .shop or penny offers (.xyz), consolidating the belief that new extensions are good mostly for cheap projects or disposable sites
awareness about new extensions will grow nonetheless but it will be through outlets like Spamhaus when they release statistics about spam and abuse
The Internet will continue to fracture along national lines (ie China maintaining tight control, Russia banning companies like Linkedin that refuse to store user data on Russian soil)
creeping Internet censorship
there will be more and more interest from the public in alternate networks such as Tor, Zeronet, I2P. Tor will become more mainstream.
The shift to mobile Internet will foster demand for short domains (eg LL/LLL), QR codes, short domains for redirects will be common. Good domain names will remain strategic branding assets though.
Uneducated Chinese investors will lose their shirts
many newbies will leave NP after making bad investments (as usual)

deez007 · Dec 29, 2016

Predictions for 2017 (might no be directly related to but still does impact domaining):

Global intelligence firm Stratfor - 2017 predictions...

Ategy · Dec 29, 2016

Kate said:
Uneducated Chinese investors will lose their shirts

Are you sure they even still have their shirts left after 2016 ??? lol

deez007 · Dec 29, 2016

Ategy.com said:
Are you sure they even still have their shirts left after 2016 ??? lol

Off course...

They manufacture the shirts remember ....lol

Ategy · Dec 29, 2016

I'll add a few of my own more TLD specific .. as for me I don't like to generalise as I think each TLD is very different and shouldn't really be lumped together. New and rebranded TLD's will polarise. Meaning some will continue their eventual path to eventual mass acceptance (.club, .co, .blog if they get less greedy with premiums) ... While others fizzle out.

- .com: Will continue to rule .. and will continue to grow .. but I do see it very slowly losing overall market share as the combined sales of non-.com will grow a bit faster as the general public slowly catch on to the fact that there are other TLD's out there.

- .net: Unlike most people I see .net really hurting. If it hasn't already it will lose it's status as "second favorite generic TLD after .com". However I do see it actually remaining strong more as a niche TLD for pretty much anything technology. So similar to what .io has become .. although obviously on a much much bigger scale building upon it's already huge existing base.

- .co: After seeing a few small/medium businesses use .co in their TV ads this year I really am starting to .co seriously (have registered quite a few single-word single-terms this year). LLL.co's are liquid, and there are some decent sales coming in consistantly. I also think the slightly higher renewal price keeps this TLD out of trouble from spammers etc (relatively speaking obviously).

- .club: In all honesty I don't own a single .club .. but this is exactly what the entire new TLD program should have been about. A good solid wide niche upon which to build upon and a decent marketing team/strategy.

- .io: I'm concerned that .app could hurt .io quite a bit. That being said .io is pretty much limited to new tech companies. So while I see good tech words doing very well .. the rest will likely soften.

.xyz: Wihle this TLD has the most registrations .. 99.9% of them are garbage bought at a cent .. later next year when renewal time comes around the numbers are going to melt to nothing. Spam is a concern here as well. .xyz will still be a little better than others .. but still more or less junk. I'd rather have a premium .biz than a .xyz.

I'll add more general predictions later ... Happy New Year to all of you in the meantime!

domainerelite · Dec 29, 2016

My 7-Predictions for Year 2017 is Quite simple:

1.) Most Domainers Will make Sales in region of $X,XXX including Me.

2.) Some will loose Money.

3.) Some lucky Domainers will hit Jackpot with 6 figure sales.

4.) I see lots of Renewals coming up, A lot I'm telling you.

5.) Brandable Name Sales will Continue to move up the Ladder, As new start-ups Enters Market.

6.) Some Hardworking Domainers will turn millionairez while those who Watch and do nothing will continue to Observe from the Stands.

7.) Finally, Some New TLDs will Join the Bandwagon while Some will fade off, but dot Com will Continue to Reign As TDL King.

GodBlessDomaining.

Ategy · Dec 29, 2016

Great Wall of China (tm):

Note that by wall I'm talking about a divide between:

Group A: Up to 4L .com & up to 5N .com & up to 3L non .com & up to 4N non .com
Group B: 5L .com and above & 6N .com and above & 4L non .com and above & 5N non .com and above

People seem to saying a lot of conflicting things about "Chips" (Chinese Premiums) .. some saying Cihps are still amazing, while others say they are going to crash (and a few of the sensible ones saying it's going to go somewhere in between .. lol).

My prediction is that the original Chips (Group A no A,E,I,O,U,V,0,4) are going to do OK. But will soften only slightly in relation to the same short non-chips as those will catch up as people wake up to the fact that the Western Market still is bigger.

Group B (5L and 6N Chips) are going the way of the dodo bird. These domains are dropping like flies and never had any business being registered in the first place (aside from serving a collateral for crazy chinese p2p-loan ponzi schemes that have nothing to do with domaining fundamentals).

Side-note: What I hate even more about these names dropping en mass is that they make going through expiring lists a royal pain in the but. You have to comb through so many to find the rare diamond in the rough.

Kate · Dec 29, 2016

Ategy.com said:
- .com: Will continue to rule .. and will continue to grow .. but I do see it very slowly losing overall market share as the combined sales of non-.com will grow a bit faster as the general public slowly catch on to the fact that there are other TLD's out there.

For the record .com has been losing market share for many years... to ccTLDs. But growing nonetheless in numbers. Alternate TLDs haven't been catching up.

Ategy.com said:
- .net: Unlike most people I see .net really hurting. If it hasn't already it will lose it's status as "second favorite generic TLD after .com". However I do see it actually remaining strong more as a niche TLD for pretty much anything technology. So similar to what .io has become .. although obviously on a much much bigger scale building upon it's already huge existing base.

I like .net too but I think it has eroded somewhat. At one point (early Internet) it was nearly as popular as .com.
Nowadays I see fewer popular sites on .net. For example Euronews had long been on .net.

joro001 · Dec 29, 2016

I agree with some of the points above.

To keep it very simple I think that .com will rule as the extension of choice for most businesses and premium short, short numeric and generic .coms will continue to perform well and possibly continue to rise in price both in the west and in China etc.

I agree that margins in .com will fall so unless you have really good names you are in trouble IMO. I think average and even good .coms will continue to be harder to sell and when they do sell will tend to sell for less in $ than they used to. Long .coms and anything else is not worth the time and effort anymore unless it's a really catchy 2/3 word domain or an exact match .com in a competitive niche, (loans, insurance etc.)

I agree with someone above that .net is likely to continue falling in demand and are 99% of the time not worth investing in, I think that will continue. New GTLD's will in some cases sell for big money and make domainers ROI but will be hard to achieve (I am more bullish on carefully selected GTLD investing than I was).

Aftermarket is fierce and more competitive than ever and I expect this to get worse pushing out most small domainers and only people/Companies with big pockets will be able to compete and survive. In many cases aftermarket buys are above what end users will pay.

In short the rich get richer and everyone else domaining full time I wish good luck, sounds like most other industries nowadays i'm afraid. If I was doing domaining full time I would be very worried right now to see where a real sustainable ROI would come from in 2017 (without spending big on the top 1% of domains).

Sorry to sound so bleak!

168 · Dec 30, 2016

Kate said:
My own outlook is slightly different, but it's just predictions Hopefully there is something for everyone
In no particular order:

New extensions will continue to underperform. Numbers will shrink after overdue purges.

More registries in trouble financially. Shares plummeting further.

Shake-up in the parking industry: I wouldn't be surprised to see one or more parking outfits shut down.

.com will continue to grow

LL/LLL.com will remain hot commodities

ccTLDs will not be affected by geoTLDs, that will continue to struggle

More ccTLDs releasing short domains (1- & 2-character domains)

Registries will attempt to sustain registrations with freebies like .shop or penny offers (.xyz), consolidating the belief that new extensions are good mostly for cheap projects or disposable sites

awareness about new extensions will grow nonetheless but it will be through outlets like Spamhaus when they release statistics about spam and abuse

The Internet will continue to fracture along national lines (ie China maintaining tight control, Russia banning companies like Linkedin that refuse to store user data on Russian soil)

creeping Internet censorship

there will be more and more interest from the public in alternate networks such as Tor, Zeronet, I2P. Tor will become more mainstream.

The shift to mobile Internet will foster demand for short domains (eg LL/LLL), QR codes, short domains for redirects will be common. Good domain names will remain strategic branding assets though.

Uneducated Chinese investors will lose their shirts

many newbies will leave NP after making bad investments (as usual)

Great predictions !
"Registries will attempt to sustain registrations with freebies like .shop or penny offers (.xyz), consolidating the belief that new extensions are good mostly for cheap projects or disposable sites"
ADD- .com's will continue to be promoted @ 99 cents consolidating the belief that competition is heating up.

dordomai · Dec 30, 2016

2017 predictions: nGTLDs will be hyped...

168 · Dec 30, 2016

Ategy.com said:
I'll add a few of my own more TLD specific .. as for me I don't like to generalise as I think each TLD is very different and shouldn't really be lumped together. New and rebranded TLD's will polarise. Meaning some will continue their eventual path to eventual mass acceptance (.club, .co, .blog if they get less greedy with premiums) ... While others fizzle out.

- .com: Will continue to rule .. and will continue to grow .. but I do see it very slowly losing overall market share as the combined sales of non-.com will grow a bit faster as the general public slowly catch on to the fact that there are other TLD's out there.

- .net: Unlike most people I see .net really hurting. If it hasn't already it will lose it's status as "second favorite generic TLD after .com". However I do see it actually remaining strong more as a niche TLD for pretty much anything technology. So similar to what .io has become .. although obviously on a much much bigger scale building upon it's already huge existing base.

- .co: After seeing a few small/medium businesses use .co in their TV ads this year I really am starting to .co seriously (have registered quite a few single-word single-terms this year). LLL.co's are liquid, and there are some decent sales coming in consistantly. I also think the slightly higher renewal price keeps this TLD out of trouble from spammers etc (relatively speaking obviously).

- .club: In all honesty I don't own a single .club .. but this is exactly what the entire new TLD program should have been about. A good solid wide niche upon which to build upon and a decent marketing team/strategy.

- .io: I'm concerned that .app could hurt .io quite a bit. That being said .io is pretty much limited to new tech companies. So while I see good tech words doing very well .. the rest will likely soften.

.xyz: Wihle this TLD has the most registrations .. 99.9% of them are garbage bought at a cent .. later next year when renewal time comes around the numbers are going to melt to nothing. Spam is a concern here as well. .xyz will still be a little better than others .. but still more or less junk. I'd rather have a premium .biz than a .xyz.

I'll add more general predictions later ... Happy New Year to all of you in the meantime!

Awsome predictions !
Maybe because I agree with you 100%.
I too have seen a significant rise in companies using .co especially in the start up market
Happy Hunting

168 · Dec 30, 2016

dordomai said:
2017 predictions: nGTLDs will be hyped...

LOL LOL LOL LOL
Nice to see you here Dordomai

Cheers

deez007 · Dec 30, 2016

lol....2017 predictions:

@dordomai will continue to hate nGTLD's

dordomai · Dec 30, 2016

Kate said:
awareness about new extensions will grow nonetheless but it will be through outlets like Spamhaus when they release statistics about spam and abuse

That is a bit harsh but LOL.

168 · Dec 30, 2016

Spammy Pammy. it's not New "G"s it's the country tlds.

At least they aren't getting hacked like .coms

Cheers

deez007 · Dec 30, 2016

Hmmmm I get spam from .com's , I get spam from .net's and .info's ... as far as nTLD's ...I get a little spam from .xyz domains too...

I have yet to get a single spam mail from .club/.online./.global ... ...just saying

Kate · Dec 30, 2016

dordomai said:
That is a bit harsh but LOL.

https://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/tlds/

dordomai · Dec 30, 2016

Kate said:
https://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/tlds/

science Badness Index: 9.35 Domains seen: 59,113
Bad domains: 51,009 (86.3%)

does 1st ranked science even have non-spam/scam usage?

FNet · Dec 30, 2016

prediction from a newbie:

- .com domains will continue to shine (next to other gTLDs I mean)
- Many .com names will drop
- ccTLDs will get strengthened a bit (I agree with Kate here)
- Public will be more aware of ngTLDs
- ngTLDS will steal market share from legacy gTLS (including .com)
- .com portfolios will trim. I see a heavy drop on 3word names, 5L,6N and various meaningless/misspelled/crap domain names on .com.
- Some domainers will exit the game.
- .com end-user prices will drop. Some (not many) will use the newTLDS. Most will use them as a weapon to bargain for better .com prices
- many registries will change pricing policy. Mature (meaning not very fresh) ngTLDS will cut the crap about ridiculous "premium" prices. Also, renewal fees will drop A LOT. Maybe at the end of 2017.
- Struggling extensions will try to survive following the less-than-one-buck registration fee for the first year.
- HugeDomains will change the high pricing policy for their domain names. If note, their inventory will continue to growth with alarming rate. The "Huge" will really have a meaning for them. Not a think that they will like.
- If .com prices do not drop much then the .net TLD will "awake" again (this is a wish actually, not a prediction. I just like dotnet more than any other gTLD, including the new ones).
- Huge drops will come to .xyz and all other ngTLDS that followed the "register me for one penny for first year"
- More .commers will realize that .com domains will lose value over time. There is not such think as supply increases but "quality domains" become even more valuable.
- Some domainers will diversify their portfolio adding nGTLD domains. Hand reging I mean (and no premiums)
- Dordomai will stay with no supporters (just kidding).

Well, many of the above will probably not take place so soon (in 2017). But this is my prediction for the next years to come.

johnn · Dec 30, 2016

Trump will be the President.
Everyone will be one year older - Including my wife.

JONAH LEUNG · Dec 31, 2016

A global war

garptrader · Dec 31, 2016

Older alternative extensions such as .Net, .Co, .TV, .Info will continue to suffer from the myriad of new TLD options available. Low budget developers and small businesses just don't have to pay a premium price if they don't want to.

The hundreds of new TLDs will continue to affect .COM sales to an extent.

The CHIP and numeric bubble will continue to deflate.

Now that many new TLDs are facing their third renewal cycle, either end users start buying them in the aftermarket or we will see considerable drops.

The massive number of $1 or less promo regs will not be renewed in meaningful numbers.

The increasing effect of HugeDomains and BuyDomains etc in the expiring domain market will push investors to consider buying from each other as they can no longer easily acquire good domains for a mere backorder.

Cdomains · Jan 2, 2017

Dot com will continue to reign.

cctlds will continue to gain ground and do well.

Some new gtlds will gain ground, but not much.

Many new tlds will falter and fail by the end of the year or into the next year.

The average price an end user will pay for a domain will continue to fall, except for the most premium generic domains.

Mr Shilling and many other top domain investors will generously sell me some of their top premium domains at incredibly, huge discounts (because I am such a nice person), and I will flip them for huge profits and retire by the end of the year.

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