warning Does Rami Steitieh A/K/A steitieh Shill? You Decide.

1. imo you are doing it all wrong... if you have $20 or $30 around get on namecheap now and buy a couple LLLL.biz chip names.... try to buy ones that are REALLY good ... with double letters stuff thats said easily, and avoid q,k,j,z,y,
   
   Names like RRTX.biz MSXX.BIZ TRFF.BIZ TNTX.BIZ SSLP.BIZ LLDR.BIZ
   
   DO NOT... DO NOT.... DO NOT... tell anyone about 4L.biz chips DO NOT...
   
   If it fails and dosnt make you money... i will cover your investment.. (up to $40)
   
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   Games.vin - $2,400
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   Thanks for your advice, I have never used namecheap. Thanks for your advice. Time to go watch tv with my girl or be in trouble. ttys
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   Go watch tv now and they will all be registered....
   
   DO NOT TELL ANYONE

Later on down the convo

1. That name, you will never sell for $400, unless you get EXTREMLY lucky, and or the market goes FLYING....
   
   My personal advice is to pick up some strong keyword .vin domains, people currently are not convinced but if you want to here the reason so for me to say that, you can contact me on skype: f_rags_
   
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   I believe you. Never heard of .vin but i will go take a look. That 130$ which is $176 canadian, can be better spent.

@tha-she and Rami put up 5 fake reviews where she bid up people like crazy and did not buy domains. If this is not shill bidding with COVER UP of FAKE REVIEWS. I do not not know what is. You got them admitting it. I am asking @Eric Lyon to comment on this. This is admission of guild with paper evidence of fraud. There is written fraud of transactions that never took place to cover up shill bidding crime. Please defend it if u can.

.vin .biz

Like you said the whole pm is here. Anyone want in to read it??

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.vin .biz

Like you said the whole pm is here. Anyone want in to read it??

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Alright, im as said not perfect, i gave you that advice, and i would have even COVERED your LOSSES... LOL

and you def forgot to add the part where you reached out to me asking for money to buy some domains, which i sent to you if i recall correctly...

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   dont forget, if looking for .vin BIG names are still available, make sure you go for names that have so to say, unlimited possible end-users.For example, i went for Games.vin Oil.vin Insurance.vin.
   
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   You got insurance *-* awesome

I think these pm are relevant to show character that if a person would load up on .vin and .biz chips, they would shill bid, cause they are losing money fast.
My portfolio is still looking sweet hehe tha-she

Not to backseat mod but I feel this thread would be best served if kept on topic.

The money, yes I will bring that up.lol

This will be good boys and girls

Rami sells worthless biz domains in xxx range. I am sure vins can do amazing with help of his "friends" who have UNLIMITED BUYING POWER AND CREATIVITY FOR FAKE REVIEWS.

1. https://sedo.com/search/details.php...gRequestId=102732017&language=e&origin=search
   
   04484.com at sedo.
   
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   uh... that IS ugly... that darn 0 at the start....
   
   i offered them 150.....
   
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   see if they take, if i end up buying the name either way.... ill send you the $50
   
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I turned you onto a 5L.com and you said you would piece me off for the info. You sent me $70 I repayed $35 when I sold 3L.info
I was honest

ksusha64 said:

Rami sells worthless biz domains in xxx range. I am sure vins can do amazing with help of his "friends" who have UNLIMITED BUYING POWER AND CREATIVITY FOR FAKE REVIEWS.

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I have btw not sold a single .vin on this forum. neither do i plan to.

@tha-she claims she shill bid without having any financial gain from it. We know Rami financially benefited from this scam. I would concentrate on the facts.

No one will buy .vin .lol
i am in chat anyone wants to talk

I dont know if this thread is clean enough anymore for anyone to make up anything for their own, maybe some unrelevant posts page 1,2,3,4 could be removed to help that....

Its funny how you try to step on the ones that helped you when you needed it @MasterOfMyDomains just to try and be "cool", this first of all wont work cause you know your wrong, and secondly, is downright of the lowest caliber of human beings....

You offered money for information $50 in chat. Ended up costing you $35
Your judgement is in question, because of the things you do. Shill bidder

@tha-she please answer why did u put up fake reviews for auctions you bid up? You seem to remember lots of details about other things except when it comes to rami auctions.

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@tha-she please answer why did u put up fake reviews for auctions you bid up? You seem to remember lots of details about other things except when it comes to rami auctions.

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would you mind pointing me to where i did...

No, that would be your 5th shill bid at an auction held by @steitieh. I was unaware of the NNN.me auction that@iAchilles mentioned. I reported you for the following four auctions that you won, but never took control over the domains:

• https://www.namepros.com/threads/sold-and-closed.929999/#post-5393881 (45000.co)
• https://www.namepros.com/threads/closed.916939/page-2#post-5296375 (Domain unknown, but proven)
• https://www.namepros.com/threads/sold-and-closed.929208/#post-5398173 (Domain unknown, but proven)
• https://www.namepros.com/threads/sold-and-closed.918621/page-2#post-5320983 (Domain unknown, but proven)

Exactly, how many times did you win an auction and ask Rami to pardon you from payment?

And how exactly do you explain your positive trader score left by Rami on these 4+ auctions when the transactions never took place?

• https://www.namepros.com/tradereviews/tha-she.961862/view/for

Edit: Rami never left you feedback. This was something else I brought up regarding your pattern of bids and purchases that's considered "confidential" and don't believe that I can share it without receiving an infraction.

That takes me no where but to all my trade reviews....

I just showed you at least 4 transactions that you never paid for, but left positive feedbacks. What is your confusion now? You won these auctions with outrageous bids ( bidding people up) never paid for them, then left positive feedback to cover up the tracks. I am not sure what you do not remember? You and Rami were doing it time after time. If this was one incident. What was your arrangement with Rami? We know you guys cheated. We want to know the details of your deals?
I have some more info on this. I will not disclose at this time. I want you to come clean yourself.

There are 100's of auctions where @tha-she bid for Rami and other people paid insane amounts for worthless domains. These people will be coming out now asking for their money back. Someone better start talking soon.

I bought total 2-3 domains from rami.. maybe total of $70. for the names I got, the prices seemed reasonable.

I won't speculate on cheating or not... I don't think I know enough.. but I will say 2 simple and honest observations.. to which I believe I am entitled:

1 - Rami has always been one of the most polite and friendly people I ever talked to (briefly as may be) on here. a true gentleman really.

2 - Rami auctions have often amazed me in terms of the prices they were fetching. I mean it as a good kind of awe though. as in, here is a guy who's been round for longer than me, and knows how to get the max out of his sales and names! as in: more power to him.. congrats!

these are my honest views and opinions. I mean no disrespect by them to anyone, or Rami, unless of course it may be one day proven beyond doubt that disrespect is all someone deserves through their actions. thank you and I hope the mods resolve this. it's obviously terrible to have somoene who cheats others on here, and its equally bad to accuse someone who is innocent. for those reasons, I'd get on it real quick if I was the mods.

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I reported you for the following four auctions that you won, but never took control over the domains:

• https://www.namepros.com/threads/sold-and-closed.929999/#post-5393881 (45000.co)
• https://www.namepros.com/threads/closed.916939/page-2#post-5296375 (Domain unknown, but proven)
• https://www.namepros.com/threads/sold-and-closed.929208/#post-5398173 (Domain unknown, but proven)
• https://www.namepros.com/threads/sold-and-closed.918621/page-2#post-5320983 (Domain unknown, but proven)

And how exactly do you explain your positive trader score left by Rami on these 4+ auctions when the transactions never took place?

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Can someone please ban @ksusha64? This person is copying/pasting the same thing over and over again without even looking at the posts. Why don't you actually check what you're copying/pasting before you believe it to be true. Show us screenshots of these "fake reviews."

All of those auctions are from February 2016 and March 2016 and there is not a single TradeReview to/from Tha-She from/to steitieh during that time.

People that act like @ksusha64 are what's wrong with this industry: blindly blabbering off about things you haven't even checked yourself.

(If I missed something, everything I said about ksusha64 is still true.)

I'm closing up my account here, but I just want to say that I've done business with Rami several times. He's always been a true gent and there was even a couple times he was super patient and understanding that I was in a situation and suddenly didn't have the money right away. Hell, Eric could attest to that. I ended up paying him, but he was super nice the whole way through, and I bet if I needed to cancel the man would have let me.

Shill bidding would surprise me and I don't know if it's denial, but my gut is saying no to this, as he's always been a kind man and a mentor.

With that, I'm done here after I wrap a few things up.

@iAchilles - I haven't been able to locate a report for this Feb 2016 auction. Did you report it?

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All of the links provided in this thread by @David Walker were part of his original report in March.

David Walker said:

I don't know why he's explaining it any differently now than he did months ago. This is something that management needs to clarify. There's no reading between the lines here, and I'm not making this up. That sentence is clear as day: They were unable to prove that shill bidding did not take place and were limited.

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You appear to still be misunderstanding my message. I don't know why but I did my best to explain it to you and so did other members.

Here's the full message again from March:

Eric Lyon said:

We were able to confirm via video evidence that a few deals were completed between them as they should have been.

Unfortunately, they were unable to provide the necessary evidence (and we were unable to find the necessary evidence) to make a determination about the .CC auction. As they both told it, when asked separately, tha-she asked if she could back out of the deal and Rami agreed. Their stories match, but that doesn't mean much. They believe the conversation happened over the phone.

Since they were unable to provide the necessary evidence, they received the following message:

This message is for both of you. Please read it carefully, because there will be no further warnings or exceptions made. If we find out that you are not following the rules below, we will immediately revoke your access from the NamePros Marketplace. There will be no investigation and there will be no appeal. This is your one and only warning.

Since you two were unable to provide adequate evidence that shill bidding did not take place between the two of you, the rules below have been placed on your accounts and MUST be adhered to for all transactions you partake in on NamePros with anyone. There will be no exceptions to these rules.

Rules:

1. NEVER bid on an auction unless you have the funds ready to pay for it and will pay for it within 7 days.
2. You two may never bid on each other's auctions again. You can conduct deals via private message ("Conversation") on NamePros, but you may never participate in an auction run by the other member. You are banned from participating in each other's auctions.
3. All communication about deals that take place on NamePros, with ALL members, MUST take place in private messages ("Conversations") on NamePros. You may never discuss deals that originate on NamePros outside of NamePros. Never discuss them on Skype, email, phone, etc. If we ever notice that a deal was not discussed in full on NamePros again, you both will lose access to the NamePros Marketplace.

These rules are not debatable. You must follow them if you wish to use NamePros Marketplace.

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This case is closed until we have something else to investigate or they violate one of the rules we've outlined above for them.

Thanks for your help, and let me know if you notice anything else.

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I explained the same thing to you in March directly above the message that I sent to @steitieh and @tha-she. My message states that they believe the missing conversation took place over the phone, and that is why it was the only one that we could not verify what happened with it. We explained to them both that all bids are binding and they must complete all deals moving forward. We also decided to not let them participate in each other's auctions anymore because there wasn't a computer log of what happened with one of their auctions.

@David Walker - You seem to have thought the message meant something else but I've explained to you multiple times what it actually means and so have others. Please take a moment to reread the original message above one more time. It's my hopes that we can resolve this misunderstanding so that we can move forward with investigating any new evidence.

We will continue to investigate any and all new reports.