status-resolved 2 users on forum are the very same and bid up their own auctions

Just when I thought NP was free of shill bidding...
Just when I thought I could trust the pros...

imo, I find it strange that @DNBank didn't try to defend his reputation as much as @Haris100 was doing [for them]... I guess he has nothing to lose as he's not @steitieh ....
Or perhaps I skipped the post when he did so...
I also find it scary that steitieh has been accused of this before....
No, wait....
I find it distrubing...
There is usually a truth in every lie.
If it turns that steitieh is innocent, then he has my deepest apologies, I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that I will avoid his auctions like the plague from now on.
Trust is like paper...

Avoiding his auctions like a plague @Jayseen

Jayseen said:

Just when I thought NP was free of shill bidding...
Just when I thought I could trust the pros...

imo, I find it strange that @DNBank didn't try to defend his reputation as much as @Haris100 was doing [for them]... I guess he has nothing to lose as he's not @steitieh ....
Or perhaps I skipped the post when he did so...
I also find it scary that steitieh has been accused of this before....
No, wait....
I find it distrubing...
There is usually a truth in every lie.
If it turns that steitieh is innocent, then he has my deepest apologies, I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that I will avoid his auctions like the plague from now on.
Trust is like paper...

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Good people like yourself has all the right to be skeptic after what you've read - the problem is: This issue was reported previously by members thinking me and Dnbank are one person - and it was 100% resolved. So to me, and to mods and admins, case is "officially" closed - but we're just waiting for their official statement - We're two different people with two different interests - plus, he is the WINNER of most of my auctions - why would anybody do that?

Everybody , at a certain stage in their career get haters - and I am no exception. Like I said, you have ALL the right with what you said , I would have thought the same way if I was in your place.

-Rami

For the last 2 years when people told me @steitieh is a scammer putting more and more evidence up. Auction after auction we seen shill bidding. People stopped reporting him because they said admins do not do anything. There are 100's of cases where obvious shill bidding happen. Are all those people crazy? Why did they have proof? How is this possible all PROS on NP know he is a cheater?

Jayseen said:

Just when I thought NP was free of shill bidding...
Just when I thought I could trust the pros...

imo, I find it strange that @DNBank didn't try to defend his reputation as much as @Haris100 was doing [for them]... I guess he has nothing to lose as he's not @steitieh ....
Or perhaps I skipped the post when he did so...
I also find it scary that steitieh has been accused of this before....
No, wait....
I find it distrubing...
There is usually a truth in every lie.
If it turns that steitieh is innocent, then he has my deepest apologies, I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that I will avoid his auctions like the plague from now on.
Trust is like paper...

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I have not committed any mistake in order to defend myself

why did @Jay-EBN outbid me? I was happy at $600

Even I didn't start crying like a children I fight like a man

@DNBank.com your name servers show
ame Server: NS1.TRILOTNS.COM
Name Server: NS2.TRILOTNS.COM
Trilot.com belongs to your scam buddy. Do u buy hosting from him besides domain?

Update: Status Resolved

Thanks for pointing this out again in case we missed something, however, at this time our investigation has shown that they are not the same person and that @DNBank.com simply likes to buy the other members' domains. Whois on all the domains they bought has changed over to the new owner. Payment was confirmed and domains were pushed. Our investigation revealed that they are not the same person and there are no unethical intentions.

This situation became suspicious because the domain name DnBank.com and its business model was purchased from @steitieh (who has a Facebook link in his signature with the business's name as its username from when he owned it - Update: At the time, he didn't know how to update the Facebook username after he sold the business but has since learned how to and updated it). The website for DnBank.com was hosted on Steitieh’s hosting company (NS: TRILOTNS.COM) when he sold it and it still uses his hosting company after @DNBank.com purchased it. In light of all the evidence we’ve gathered, received, and carefully reviewed, there is nothing wrong with @DNBank.com using Steitieh’s hosting company.

We made Steitieh send us video proof of him logging into respective accounts (paypal, dynadot, godaddy, email, etc.) and show us that what he claimed was true, with transactions from the past before any of these reports surfaced. Everything checked out and matched up with WHOIS records and completed deals on NamePros.

Keep in mind that much of our evidence is private staff information that we cannot fully share, but we are confident in our investigation.

We invite Steitieh and DnBank.com to provide any information they feel comfortable sharing, but that is not required because we’ve already thoroughly investigated this matter. If new evidence surfaces, we will thoroughly review and investigate further.

You are free to start a thread on public evidence and then if either member wants to explain things publicly, that's their choice to make. The issue of these two members being the same person has been found to not be true. However, that doesn’t mean you can’t continue to investigate anything you wish and bring it to the attention of our mods or the public in a new thread. We investigate every report.

Thanks for helping to keep NamePros a safe and transparent community.


To address the concerns in this thread about my character and judgement:

I think that the history of my direct, public, and precise actions against scams, spam, and any form of fraud speaks for itself over the years. I have a zero tolerance for such activity and play no favorites. Every member must comply with the same rules and undergo the same investigative policy as the next. Until there is new evidence to backup the claims that we have not already investigated against a member or our investigation uncovers fraud, we are unable to take any further actions in this matter.

Please feel free to contact me anytime if you need something or want us to look into a matter to make sure nothing fishy is going on. I’m always here to help.

Yippi Ki Yea

Great job @Eric Lyon

As a friendly reminder, if you want to discuss another matter that is not related to these two members being the same person (the topic of this thread), you may start another thread. Other topics will not be allowed in this thread because they're off topic.

Thanks for understanding,

https://www.namepros.com/threads/cl...-biz-7-years-old-excellent-biz-domain.958043/

https://www.namepros.com/threads/computerl-com.964283/

"
Registered with GoDaddy.com Can be pushed or transferred out.
Payment no longer than 24 hours after winning via PayPal please.

Thanks & Good Luck,
Rami"

"domain with dynadot.com and shall be pushed to your account there.
Payment is expected no longer than 24 hours after winning via PayPal, please.



Thanks & Good Luck,
"

And, whoola! stands.biz belongs to DNBank according to whois records.

But anyway, it seems resolved by mods....

cyc said:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/cl...-biz-7-years-old-excellent-biz-domain.958043/

https://www.namepros.com/threads/computerl-com.964283/

"
Registered with GoDaddy.com Can be pushed or transferred out.
Payment no longer than 24 hours after winning via PayPal please.

Thanks & Good Luck,
Rami"

"domain with dynadot.com and shall be pushed to your account there.
Payment is expected no longer than 24 hours after winning via PayPal, please.



Thanks & Good Luck,
"

And, whoola! stands.biz belongs to DNBank according to whois records.

But anyway, it seems resolved by mods....

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https://www.namepros.com/threads/cl...-biz-7-years-old-excellent-biz-domain.958043/

Highest Bidder did NOT pay and was banned - Thank you

@Eric Lyon

Actually, since my report about this doubt, i wasn't following any more what's going on anymore until this thread.

But, you mentioned that;

"This situation became suspicious because the domain name DnBank.com and its business model was purchased from @steitieh (who still has a link to the business’s defunct facebook page in his signature from when he owned it). The website for DnBank.com was hosted on Steitieh’s hosting company (NS: TRILOTNS.COM) when he sold it and it still uses his hosting company after @DNBank.com purchased it. In light of all the evidence we’ve gathered, received, and carefully reviewed, there is nothing wrong with @DNBank.com using Steitieh’s hosting company."

Do you have any proof that Rami Steitieh has an hosting company, cos' you don't need to be a company to use custom dns servers.

This is my last question and i won't get interest with this subject any more.

cyc said:

@Eric Lyon

Actually, since my report about this doubt, i wasn't following any more what's going on anymore until this thread.

But, you mentioned that;

"This situation became suspicious because the domain name DnBank.com and its business model was purchased from @steitieh (who still has a link to the business’s defunct facebook page in his signature from when he owned it). The website for DnBank.com was hosted on Steitieh’s hosting company (NS: TRILOTNS.COM) when he sold it and it still uses his hosting company after @DNBank.com purchased it. In light of all the evidence we’ve gathered, received, and carefully reviewed, there is nothing wrong with @DNBank.com using Steitieh’s hosting company."

Do you have any proof that Rami Steitieh has an hosting company, cos' you don't need to be a company to use custom dns servers.

This is my last question and i won't get interest with this subject any more.

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Not a hosting company as in sell to the public - I sell certain people and some I give for free - I own a couple of servers that I sell to locally - Used to have a local company back in 2007 - not anymore - all clients remained in there. DnBank is one of them - he is insisting after this incident to leave my servers and get his own but I am insisting otherwise as we really aren't as most think - he's a legitimate person and doesn't need to buy a server for a couple of sites.

http://dns.coffee/nameservers/NS2.TRILOTNS.COM

http://dns.coffee/domains/DNBANK.COM

He got his own servers 10 days ago

he used his server in 2011??? You guys know eachother since 2011>?>?

MasterOfMyDomains said:

http://dns.coffee/nameservers/NS2.TRILOTNS.COM

http://dns.coffee/domains/DNBANK.COM

He got his own servers 10 days ago

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True - because he bought a script (to use for DNBank) and liquid web told him he must take his original script off which he did - The script was advertised in Domaining.com - and then it had bugs- he changed his nameservers back to my server TODAY to get his old copy till he moves out again.

ksusha64 said:

he used his server in 2011??? You guys know eachother since 2011>?>?

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No - Since 2003 - and yes, we're real life friends.... and for MANY years.

LOL SO THE TRUTH COMES OUT. So if you are not the same person, I know damn well you guys bid up each others auctions. This is so wrong its sickening.

But don't you worry steitieh, you are invincible on these forums with that PRO tag apparently. No worries though "friend", all these posts will be hidden once more for you and your "friend" to go on scamming others.

Its quite convenient to just move ns back today even though no content on the dnbank site has changed.

Jay-EBN said:

LOL SO THE TRUTH COMES OUT. So if you are not the same person, I know damn well you guys bid up each others auctions. This is so wrong its sickening.

But don't you worry steitieh, you are invincible on these forums with that PRO tag apparently. No worries though "friend", all these posts will be hidden once more for you and your "friend" to go on scamming others.

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Man! Stop for God's sake!!! Just tell me why did you fucking bid if you're crying now like a little girl?????? WHY?

Anytime I get an auction up and running I invite ALL friends and previous bidders - this is natural - what's unnatural is that after what you've heard from the admins - you're still talking - What do you want?

I want you to stop acting like a little kid and admit to being a scam artist and ripping off innocent users on these forums.