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Hello and Assalamo Alaikum,

First, I would like to thank Mr. Howard Neu for accepting this case and later defending it successfully the domain KITCHN.com which is one of our prime properties.

Let me tell you some background before I shall tell you about the case in detail.

In October 2015, the law firm representing Kitchn.no contacted me for the purchase of my domain and started offer from $100 up to $7,000 to which no interest was shown.

Next in June 2016, the complainant filed UDRP on our domain Kitchn.com and Mr. Howard respresented me to defend and save the valuable domain.

Today, we got the news of winning the case.

Below is the detail:

“In a 3 person panel decision, the UDRP Claim for Kitchn.com was denied at WIPO. In the case of Kitchn Norge AS v. Abdulbasit Makrani, Case No. D2016-1189, a Norwegian company that held the Norwegian trademark for KITCH’N was too limited to a specific area (Norway and Sweden) as to apply to Bad Faith on the part of the Respondent Abdulbasit Makrani. Here are some of the relevant excerpts of the decision:

The Panel notes that, at the time the disputed domain name was acquired by the Respondent, the Complainant had been trading in Norway and Sweden for some 18 years, had been the proprietor of the Norwegian trademark No. 221252 for KITCH’N for some 11 years and also appears to have been selling through the Internet for almost 2 years.

There is no evidence that the Complainant’s trademark might have been used outside Norway and Sweden and the Complainant’s website clearly targets consumers located in Norway since it is entirely in Norwegian. Moreover, a Google search for “kitchn” shows several results unrelated to the Complainant and its mark.

The records indicate that the Respondent is a professional domain name registrant and acquired the disputed domain name through an automated process immediately after the original registration lapsed. As highlighted in previous cases, the automated nature of the acquisition cannot be an excuse for turning a blind eye to trademark rights, since otherwise it would be the “perfect shield for abusive registrations”. SeeResearch In Motion Limited v. Privacy Locked LLC/Nat Collicot, WIPO Case No. D2009-0320.

However, particularly given the nature of the disputed domain name as a contraction of the dictionary term “kitchen”, the Panel finds that nothing in the case file indicates that the Respondent had ever known of the Complainant’s rights or that the Respondent registered the disputed domain name to capitalize on the Complainant’s mark.

This finding is supported by the fact that the use of the disputed domain name does not show an intention to target the Complainant or its competitors, as the links displayed on the website published at the disputed domain name are mainly related to cooking recipes and not to the Complainant’s trademark and products.

Instead, in the case at hand, there is no evidence that the Respondent might have registered the disputed domain name with the intention to sell it to the Complainant or to trade off the Complainant’s mark. Therefore, the Panel also finds that the Respondent’s refusal of the Complainant’s offer for the disputed domain name and his request of a higher sum do not amount to bad faith.

In view of the above, the Panel finds that the Complainant has failed to demonstrate that the Respondent registered and used the disputed domain name in bad faith.”

The Respondent AbdulBasit Makrani was represented in this case by the Law Office of Howard Neu, P.A.

I wanted to convey a message to all people around the world, I will try my best to defend my properties and won’t let them go easily.

Any feedback is welcome.
 
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Congratulations Mr Abdul Basit. Truth won. FULL STOP.
 
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That's really great news. All credit goes to your defense strategy and of course Mr. Howard Neu. Congratulations.
 
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Abdul, I would have accepted the $7000 offer. I hope you have a better plan.
 
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Abdul, I would have accepted the $7000 offer. I hope you have a better plan.

Thanks for your feedback which is appreciated.
Yeah, I quite agree with you ;)
 
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How did you come up with $188,xxx I'm looking for? :-o
I searched it on godaddy earlier today and saw it listed for that figure, now I search and it says not available...
 
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I searched it on godaddy earlier today and saw it listed for that figure, now I search and it says not available...

I admit my mistake. I just saw myself as well and found that it was set when Afternic inquiry comes and it forces to enter BIN. Changed the price and will be effective some time later...
Thanks for the heads up! :)
 
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That is true and the WIPO states that but it's usually base on frivolous grounds e.g. there is no TM, the site is clearly registered for use in good faith. There was nothing frivolous in the claim and the WIPO Clearly states that.

They own a mark and it is confusingly similar with your domain. Whether it was registered and being used in good faith is debatable (depending on our perspective - yours vs theirs :) ) and the panel found, probably rightly, to uphold your view that you didn't register in bad faith as you didn't run competing ads, or do what is listed as the usual examples of bad faith. The process worked; however, the burden of cost to defend the name is high and unfair to you. It's not right that you should be out of pocket for this. I think the 3 panel should be free and automatic. Legal fees I get - you could have defended this yourself, imho. That said, I'm not sure of your comfort here, your obvious relationships in the industry that help you out, and attachment/valuation of the name - the total risk-reward picture... and you clearly wanted low-risk and did the right thing.

This is very similar to other cases where 1 member panel was fine; however, your history being in the WIPO database is probably a red flag right now. If you continue to win it might work in your favor in the long run as your legitimate cases starts to cause complainant rethinking. It would be nicer for you if the ruling read far more favorably.

Unsolicited advice:

Bear in mind that the UDRP is a point in time challenge. You should tread carefully in future as there is no reason another UDRP can't be filed by either kitchn.no or others.

Good luck. I quite like the name.

Good Point,
"your history being in the WIPO database is probably a red flag right now."

History could have an effect on sellers reputation as well as the value of the domain. Another good reason to find RDNH.
 
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Hope you get the $188,xxx your looking for
$188k ??? For a misspelled domain ? That´s crazy ! To me a misspelled domain has $0 value ...
 
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$188k ??? For a misspelled domain ? That´s crazy ! To me a misspelled domain has $0 value ...

It shows you would have happily accepted 7K offer but my thinking is very much different.
Thanks for your feedback though :)
 
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Hello and Assalamo Alaikum,

First, I would like to thank Mr. Howard Neu for accepting this case and later defending it successfully the domain KITCHN.com which is one of our prime properties.

Let me tell you some background before I shall tell you about the case in detail.

In October 2015, the law firm representing Kitchn.no contacted me for the purchase of my domain and started offer from $100 up to $7,000 to which no interest was shown.

Next in June 2016, the complainant filed UDRP on our domain Kitchn.com and Mr. Howard respresented me to defend and save the valuable domain.

Today, we got the news of winning the case.

Below is the detail:

“In a 3 person panel decision, the UDRP Claim for Kitchn.com was denied at WIPO. In the case of Kitchn Norge AS v. Abdulbasit Makrani, Case No. D2016-1189, a Norwegian company that held the Norwegian trademark for KITCH’N was too limited to a specific area (Norway and Sweden) as to apply to Bad Faith on the part of the Respondent Abdulbasit Makrani. Here are some of the relevant excerpts of the decision:

The Panel notes that, at the time the disputed domain name was acquired by the Respondent, the Complainant had been trading in Norway and Sweden for some 18 years, had been the proprietor of the Norwegian trademark No. 221252 for KITCH’N for some 11 years and also appears to have been selling through the Internet for almost 2 years.

There is no evidence that the Complainant’s trademark might have been used outside Norway and Sweden and the Complainant’s website clearly targets consumers located in Norway since it is entirely in Norwegian. Moreover, a Google search for “kitchn” shows several results unrelated to the Complainant and its mark.

The records indicate that the Respondent is a professional domain name registrant and acquired the disputed domain name through an automated process immediately after the original registration lapsed. As highlighted in previous cases, the automated nature of the acquisition cannot be an excuse for turning a blind eye to trademark rights, since otherwise it would be the “perfect shield for abusive registrations”. SeeResearch In Motion Limited v. Privacy Locked LLC/Nat Collicot, WIPO Case No. D2009-0320.

However, particularly given the nature of the disputed domain name as a contraction of the dictionary term “kitchen”, the Panel finds that nothing in the case file indicates that the Respondent had ever known of the Complainant’s rights or that the Respondent registered the disputed domain name to capitalize on the Complainant’s mark.

This finding is supported by the fact that the use of the disputed domain name does not show an intention to target the Complainant or its competitors, as the links displayed on the website published at the disputed domain name are mainly related to cooking recipes and not to the Complainant’s trademark and products.

Instead, in the case at hand, there is no evidence that the Respondent might have registered the disputed domain name with the intention to sell it to the Complainant or to trade off the Complainant’s mark. Therefore, the Panel also finds that the Respondent’s refusal of the Complainant’s offer for the disputed domain name and his request of a higher sum do not amount to bad faith.

In view of the above, the Panel finds that the Complainant has failed to demonstrate that the Respondent registered and used the disputed domain name in bad faith.”

The Respondent AbdulBasit Makrani was represented in this case by the Law Office of Howard Neu, P.A.

I wanted to convey a message to all people around the world, I will try my best to defend my properties and won’t let them go easily.

Any feedback is welcome.
This is the perfect example to learn about Trademarked Domains, cases against it and How a faithful purpose can save you :)
 
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That's great! Congrats to you!
 
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What kind of traffic does this typo get? does it make revenue or just become an expense every year?
 
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Based on info I say no to 7k as well. I shoot for a certain range too. 7k would be too low for me to let go
 
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Thanks for sharing. I had a lot to say about a lot of what i have read here from others but I think i will just leave it at good job on winning the case and for no matter what the domain is worth sticking to your guns on what you want to do with it. There are so many here who cant understand but just like me, they don't have to ;)
 
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Interesting story....congratulation
 
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I'm happy that you was able to defend your name abdul. But in the end you had to pay like 4k USD also if you win the udrp?
 
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I'm happy that you was able to defend your name abdul. But in the end you had to pay like 4k USD also if you win the udrp?

Thanks!
In both cases (winning or losing) I had to pay the same amount while trying to defend my domain.
 
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