Drop Catching is Dead?

Don't get me wrong. I wasn't casting any aspersions with my use of the term "inflated". I was merely trying to insinuate how pricey I think the bids are on DC. I suppose, that is to be expected with Public Auctioning of drop-caught domains.

You naturally became a better name picker ,chances are the domains you do backorder and get now are more valuable than the domains you once found easier to grab,which are still probably sitting in your account. Based on what you posted Im sure the domain you do get will more than make up for all the ones you dont get and once did. I think that makes sense . Keep on TRUCKING

ben pedri said:

You naturally became a better name picker ,chances are the domains you do backorder and get now are more valuable than the domains you once found easier to grab,which are still probably sitting in your account. Based on what you posted Im sure the domain you do get will more than make up for all the ones you dont get and once did. I think that makes sense . Keep on TRUCKING

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So true. But I'm not there yet. Still buy some unsellable domains But a lot less than before

kostaki said:

You can find snapnames, namejet and godaddy (closeouts+expired) pre-release lists on my website (ExpiredDomains.net) and a lot of other domain lists all in one place. I also have a pending delete list that is as far as I know the most comprehensive in the world.

From what you are writing, I think you can save a lot of time by using my website. At the moment you can enter up to 30 keywords per domain name filter (starts with, ends with or contains), so you could check your 150 keywords with only 5 searches per domain list.

You can use the saved searches system to speed it up even more. You have to invest some time to set everything up like you want it, but I think it is worth it especially for reoccurring keyword lookups. You can also enabled email updates for the saved searches. With that you will get 1 email per day including all newly found domains matching your searches.

If you have questions or suggestions, just post them here or use the contact form on my website.

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I use this daily, and find it extremely useful. Thanks to @kostaki for creating such a valuable tool, and if you haven't already checked it out - you must!

Dropcatching is not dead at all. I usually spend a couple hours daily on the next day drop list, mostly searching for SEO domains, but when i spot a great name i just add it to my to-catch list, and sometimes it hits. I'd say one of 10-20 tries. I've collected quite a few good to great names for regfee within the last few months. But as the name hunt is not my primary concern, but let's say collateral activity besides my SEO domaining, i can afford not to be stressed at all about whether i catch a good name or not.

golan said:

Dropcatching is not dead at all. I usually spend a couple hours daily on the next day drop list, mostly searching for SEO domains, but when i spot a great name i just add it to my to-catch list, and sometimes it hits. I'd say one of 10-20 tries. I've collected quite a few good to great names for regfee within the last few months. But as the name hunt is not my primary concern, but let's say collateral activity besides my SEO domaining, i can afford not to be stressed at all about whether i catch a good name or not.

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My original post had a question mark in it's title. It was a question rather than a statement of fact. I'm sure there are some average domains dropping every day. The problem is most of the better one's are hoovered up by DropCatch. Like you. I catch a few domains using Pheenix, which is probably only marginally better than doing a hand-reg when the domain drops.

Been also doing drops for month now, I think I didnt do for 5 years or even more.
And I love it. I just love it. I am addicted again.
So nice ones dropping, Agreed a little expensive, but still. In order to make money you need to spend it.

snapnames - ok
namejet -ok
dropcatch - also ok,

godaddy auction - too many bidders, not worth it.

domeen said:

Been also doing drops for month now, I think I didnt do for 5 years or even more.
And I love it. I just love it. I am addicted again.
So nice ones dropping, Agreed a little expensive, but still. In order to make money you need to spend it.

snapnames - ok
namejet -ok
dropcatch - also ok,

godaddy auction - too many bidders, not worth it.

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GoDaddy is not DropCatching*. They're Pre-Release Auctions. SnapNames/NameJet do both Drop-Catching and Pre-Release Auctions. DropCatch, as their name suggests, are pure Drop-Catchers (the best by a mile).

To be clear. I was talking about Drop-Catching, not Pre-Release Auctions with this thread.

* Also to be clear. You can backorder dropping domains at GoDaddy. But they cannot even beat hand-regging the domain.

stub said:

GoDaddy is not DropCatching. They're Pre-Release Auctions. SnapNames/NameJet do both Drop-Catching and Pre-Release Auctions. DropCatch, as their name suggests, are pure Drop-Catchers (the best by a mile).

To be clear. I was talking about Drop-Catching, not Pre-Release Auctions with this thread.

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i think you don´t need to explain grandfrather how to make kids!

domeen said:

i think you don´t need to explain grandfrather how to make kids!

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my remarks were not necessarily, directed specifically at you, but to other less experienced people in this thread, who could have been mislead by your comments. This thread was also specifically about DropCatching, not Pre-Release Auctions.

stub said:

my remarks were not necessarily, directed specifically at you, but to other less experienced people in this thread, who could have been mislead by your comments. This thread was also specifically about DropCatching, not Pre-Release Auctions.

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Ok, my observation, dropcatch is not the best, snapanmes beats them, I would even say, they take more.
Pheenix also gets something from time to time, two days ago they got one that I had ordered in snapnames and dropcatch. But yeah, basically not worth it. Because they send it to public auction

domeen said:

Ok, my observation, dropcatch is not the best, snapanmes beats them, I would even say, they take more.
Pheenix also gets something from time to time, two days ago they got one that I had ordered in snapnames and dropcatch. But yeah, basically not worth it. Because they send it to public auction

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You are discounting all the domains DropCatch take for the HugeDomains associated company. For sure they don't catch many domains for us domainers, compared to SnapNames/NameJet.

stub said:

You are discounting all the domains DropCatch take for the HugeDomains associated company. For sure they don't catch many domains for us domainers, compared to SnapNames/NameJet.

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I am sure they use other registrar connection to catch the "medium" or "low end" ones.
But considering better quality, then snapnames beats them.

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I am sure they use other registrar connection to catch the "medium" or "low end" ones.
But considering better quality, then snapnames beats them.

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I think we have a difference of opinion about that

stub said:

I think we have a difference of opinion about that

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Yes lets leave it

But yeah, 10 domains for a day I can`t find either. I mean for regular drop.

domeen said:

But yeah, 10 domains for a day I can`t find either. I mean for regular drop.

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Of course, that depends on your standard expectations. I find easily 2 domains a day which I backorder at Pheenix (about the best thing to actually registering a dropped domain). GoldStandard.com probably won't drop, but GoldPyjamas.com might

So I detect at least some agreement with the hypothesis of this thread

domeen said:

Ok, my observation, dropcatch is not the best, snapanmes beats them, I would even say, they take more.
Pheenix also gets something from time to time, two days ago they got one that I had ordered in snapnames and dropcatch. But yeah, basically not worth it. Because they send it to public auction

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Do you usually get the names you backorder outright (no other backorders), or do they always go into auctions?

When SnapNames catches a decent (not amazing) name, I usually find my self in a private auction with 2-15 other people. Occasionally you can get the name for a good price in those auctions.

If DropCatch gets a decent name, there may only be a few bidders in the auction initially, but a bunch of people who did not bid on the domain always join in due to the public auction format. Many of these later bidders have so deep pockets that the only way to win the dropcatch backorders that go to auction is to seriously overpay for the names (compared with what you'd pay for those names if SnapNames caught them, or at other venues).

SnapNames had a strong period this summer where they beat out DropCatch most of the time, but they have caught very little over the past month, at least for me. They still catch some names, but most of the stuff gets caught by DropCatch, and their public auctions is just a waste of time.

Arca said:

Do you usually get the names you backorder outright (no other backorders), or do they always go into auctions?

When SnapNames catches a decent (not amazing) name, I usually find my self in a private auction with 2-15 other people. Occasionally you can get the name for a good price in those auctions.

If DropCatch gets a decent name, there may only be a few bidders in the auction initially, but a bunch of people who did not bid on the domain always join in due to the public auction format. Many of these later bidders have so deep pockets that the only way to win the dropcatch backorders that go to auction is to seriously overpay for the names (compared with what you'd pay for those names if SnapNames caught them, or at other venues).

SnapNames had a strong period this summer where they beat out DropCatch most of the time, but they have caught very little over the past month, at least for me. They still catch some names, but most of the stuff gets caught by DropCatch, and their public auctions is just a waste of time.

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The thing is, when it dosen´t go to auction, that means only You backorder it So that probably isn`t good sign. Then again, I get 2-3 in day without auction, the ones I think are decent.

yesterday even at dropcatch 3 for $59 each and one from discount club for $18

and two from snapnames for $79

I think 3 went to auction

But I would suggest make more bids in auctions. Usually I don´t get them, but time to time I still win some.

stub said:

Hi,

I've just spent all day long going thru the dropping domains at NameJet, for my usual selection of keywords. I managed to backorder just one domain. I don't consider this time well spent considering it'll probably be caught by DropCatch. Does anyone else have the feeling that drop catching is pretty much totally dead? Is all the oxygen being sucked up by the Pre-Release Auctions? I don't think I'm going to look again at the drop catching domains. My time is much more valuable than these meagre pickings. I used to be able to identify at least 10 domains or more to backorder from the next 3 days dropping domains.

Any thoughts or comments appreciated.

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I go through DropCatch also. Big money and corps have taken pre releases at this point and what you have is what you have.

DropCatch truly changed the game with their vast registrar network. When you use their discount network HugeDomains gets first pick at the name, if I am not mistaken. So you are basically giving them another metric to give them reason to grab and hold.

None-the-less - drop catching is not dead... But with all the pre-release auctions, and then players like dropnames, the amount of names that slip through the cracks is much less than it used to be.

We must be creative in how we search the drop list and there are still gems in there. But if you think you are going to drop catch a one worder or high value liquid domain then you are most probably mistaken.

Me personally, I hand reg or via API, or I bid on Pre-Release auctions. I tend to stay away from the dropcatcher auctions as the price is largely being inflated and many times comes too close to end-user pricing.

If I am to use a dropcatcher I personally stay away from DropCatch as to not feed the beast, but that's just me.

Michael M said:

DropCatch truly changed the game with their vast registrar network. When you use their discount network HugeDomains gets first pick at the name, if I am not mistaken. So you are basically giving them another metric to give them reason to grab and hold.
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thats just the thanks for being cheapskate .) cost of doing business.
If you order regular you get it

domeen said:

The thing is, when it dosen´t go to auction, that means only You backorder it So that probably isn`t good sign. Then again, I get 2-3 in day without auction, the ones I think are decent.

yesterday even at dropcatch 3 for $59 each and one from discount club for $18

and two from snapnames for $79

I think 3 went to auction

But I would suggest make more bids in auctions. Usually I don´t get them, but time to time I still win some.

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If I win the name outright because there were no other backorders, I do not take that as a bad sign at all. If I backorder 10 names that I think are all good, and 9 of them go into auction, I consider the one I got for $59/$79 a lucky bargain pickup. Besides, many of the names I backorder that go into public auctions at DropCatch only have 1 other bidder. That means I was pretty close to getting it for $59 (and in the public auction it will normally go up to $500-1000 at least). In the reseller market now, the price of a domain is determined by who is in the auction bidding, much more than the quality of the domain.

But I rarely get names for $59 (or $79) these days. More people backorder with DropCatch, so there is always 1-2 other bidders now, and when the name enters a public auction it is as good as lost. If you enter into an auction with 1-2 other people at SnapNames you can beat them, but not at DropCatch. You can outbid the people who placed the DropCatch backorder, but not the 10 deep pocket bidders that join the auction late.

Michael M said:

DropCatch truly changed the game with their vast registrar network. When you use their discount network HugeDomains gets first pick at the name, if I am not mistaken. So you are basically giving them another metric to give them reason to grab and hold.

None-the-less - drop catching is not dead... But with all the pre-release auctions, and then players like dropnames, the amount of names that slip through the cracks is much less than it used to be.

We must be creative in how we search the drop list and there are still gems in there. But if you think you are going to drop catch a one worder or high value liquid domain then you are most probably mistaken.

Me personally, I hand reg or via API, or I bid on Pre-Release auctions. I tend to stay away from the dropcatcher auctions as the price is largely being inflated and many times comes too close to end-user pricing.

If I am to use a dropcatcher I personally stay away from DropCatch as to not feed the beast, but that's just me.

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After reading your reply I have to recant and Agree with you. There are so many names that have yet to be born and new business begin. I have many pre orders and API and filter databases......
Some Perspective of how large the ongoing releases .
http://www.calzone.org/eventcal/calzone-dashboard.php

Snapnames worked much better than DC for me last few days
Yesterday they catch for me 11 domains and DC only 3.