WhyPark.com, Google punishing already?

Don't use their content. You'll always be at risk if you are using content that comes from another source.

As far as smartpricing - *everyone* using AdSense gets smart priced. It's all about how likely your users are to convert, and it's predictive.

HiSoC8Y said:

Hi

if you are using WhyPark.com, are you finding changes in your ranking in google? i mean, is google penaltizing us ?


also, from an AdSense point of view, any smart pricing?


Btw, what if google penaltizes you, is there a way to recover, like change the content to unique...etc?

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Yes we are getting clobbered by Google, especially those with duplicate content like me. As an example, I had 55 domains at WP, all indexed with anywhere from 20 to 500 pages.

A few days back I checked and about 20 of those domains were no longer indexed, so I changed them to Bodis and just left a few to make some experiments like adding original content when I get some time.

I've lost most of my interest for WhyPark for the moment, but have not given up yet.

GIL

they are an easy way to host 100 sites for 100 dollars.

You MUST make your own content or just forget about being indexed.

if you loose position in SE, is there a way to recover by using unique content?

how long does it take to recover?

The whole duplicate content thing can be licked if you think of it in terms of percentages. (I have the same problems even with duplicates of my *own* content, when I serve it up several different ways)

You don't get banned or penalized for duplicate content, as long as you're not using someone else's copyrighted stuff without permission (that's a different situation) You get filtered for duplicate content. What this means is, you haven't necessarily done anything *wrong* - they just don't choose to show your results among the billions of other people with essentially the same thing. So you don't have to bow and scrape and beg for reinclusion - you just have to fix it, and once you do, it will eventually regain some or all of your position - maybe even better. Might take a few days, might take a month, but as long as that's your only problem, it is recoverable.

Now - how do we fix it?

If you look at your entire page, some percentage of it is always going to be duplicate by nature - mainly navigation, logo, header and footer.

Another percentage is whatever syndicated content you're using from WhyPark (or any other article service) This includes your AdSense ads, because you don't control which ads run.

And the third section is whatever unique content YOU add to the mix - your text, and pictures, video, and this can include your affiliate ads.

So what you have to do is tip the balance over to where there's a better percentage of unique content than there is of duplicate.

Google doesn't tell you what the percentages are, of course, so you have to play around with it until you find the sweet spot.

Try reducing (or eliminating) the number of articles, and drop down to ONE AdSense block, while building up your own content. Or even temporarily remove AdSense altogether until you get your indexing back, and then start adding things one at a time - if you notice you are starting to drop again, then go back and remove one thing.

I know it sounds like a lot of work. But after you've done it two or three times and brought the sites back, and once you become accustomed to thinking of it mathematically (percentages, remember) you'll be able to gauge instinctively how much unique content you need in order to gain or keep your ranking.

This, by the way, is by no means unique to WhyPark. This is the exact same advice I give my clients with their own developed sites. It's the exact same issue that many ecommerce sites have, where they have pages and pages of very similar products - they can't get them all indexed and ranking, because the percentage of unique content is too low.

Great post Netmeg. I am also trying to recover from de-indexed pages as well. Do you think that adding links to the site will help getting the robots back?

And has anybody figured out what is determining if adsense will show on your site?

Fantastic post once again Netmeg

GIL

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havent seen the page rank go yet but i fully expect a butchering at next update.How do you explain pr 3 but not good enough to show ads on?one solution ...bye bye pr3

cantstop said:

havent seen the page rank go yet but i fully expect a butchering at next update.How do you explain pr 3 but not good enough to show ads on?one solution ...bye bye pr3

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Toolbar Pagerank is NOT current PageRank. Whatever you see reported as PageRank in the Google Toolbar or any of the online tools should be considered to be three to six months behind current PageRank. That's out of Google's own mouth.

The closest thing you can find to a current page rank is in the Google directory (their version of DMOZ) and only if you happen to be listed there, and that only gets updated twice a year (if that)

(PR doesn't have anything to do with duplicate content or AdSense - it's more about links, but I wanted to explain about TBPR anyway)

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but if they deindex that goes away pretty quick.they haven't deindex these for the most part.Certain parking companies that i won't mention.you will see all go away at once...if they don't like your page.This situation ,we won't know for sure until next update cause like you say it is old info.I am just preparing myself for gman slashing.

i had a domain, that was banned from google index, i purchased that domain in a snapnames auction.

i emailed google 3-4 times, and it took google about 9 months to re-index it.