analysis Domaining should be restricted to the over 50's

[BaileyUK]

OK, it's a of bit tongue in cheek comment. But more and more I'm becoming aware of how the youngsters in domains do not appear to connect to old-world values. The older generation are the best to connect with both the modern terminology but usually understand where value lays in terms that have appropriateness to many modern businesses. Basically solid foundations in that .com domain. The old minds have the ability of history, experience and adaptability. learning is just an additional aspect.

Whereas the younger generation only have their recent connectivity to go on. Sure they pick things up as they go along but blimey it takes a long wait for penny's to drop.

AGE VERIFICATION Required before you enter this domain registration/sales site Strictly for your own protection.

 

[bmugford]

I have to agree with Brad, this propensity to clap like seals at domain registrations mostly made by the inexperienced and applauded by the same inexperienced group is Not helping. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to divide and rule here. It's just that by the language used you can usually gauge the age of the domain poster and the respondent.

No slur on the thread starter - I think the intention was admirable and worthwhile but, one only has to view the discussion thread regarding the registrant believing their registration is worth in excess of $5,000. And the number of posters. The congratulations posted thereafter has become the best light-hearted reading on this site (I wont use stronger terms - in fear of upsetting many)

Are people really saying these are the innovators of the future of domains. Because I can tell you there's a 50 to 1 failure rate staring you in the face right there. Probably closer to 100+ to 1 And even then I'm allowing for the few real value domains posted by the experienced

Yeah, it is not really an age thing, extension thing, etc.

If you look at any of those type of threads, most registrations are just objectively bad.

Most of it is about unrealistic expectations and lack of experience.

There are endless terrible registrations in all extensions, the bar is just lower in an extension like .COM. But, it is not like if you have some bad .COM it is gold.

Brad

 

[BaileyUK]

The killer blow though tends to come with a follow-up comment on the envisaged usage and the imaginary pay-master that's going to write that $5,000 check. Honestly they do leave you speechless. What my message is that the vast majority of the older generation would stay away from domains as if they were the plague. They understand not to get into what they don't understand. Same can't be said for the instant gratification generation.

I will take a moment to apologise for the "clapping like seals" comment. That was a little bit OT That's the trouble with Brit sarcasm it doesn't necessarily travel well.

 

[Samer]

Funny thread. I think membership to namepros should be restricted to age 50+
Or you must post i love you in 50 different threads to bypass said restriction

Hey you, i say “i love you” a lot, and i am not restricted. Spread love, not war.

 

[.X.]

Oh Yes, me too. I don't truly know why but, I stopped buying domains years ago. (just the odd exception) Maybe sometimes the discussion becomes more interesting than the doing. But, for me there does seem to be enough new opportunities to be explored. I'm going to see how it goes.

I am definitely staying retired. Although still holding 178 LLLL.coms and three LLL.coms , I am retired for sure. Watching others is about it for me now.

 

[Atone]

Really

 

[nnzo]

OK, it's a of bit tongue in cheek comment. But more and more I'm becoming aware of how the youngsters in domains do not appear to connect to old-world values. The older generation are the best to connect with both the modern terminology but usually understand where value lays in terms that have appropriateness to many modern businesses. Basically solid foundations in that .com domain. The old minds have the ability of history, experience and adaptability. learning is just an additional aspect.

Whereas the younger generation only have their recent connectivity to go on. Sure they pick things up as they go along but blimey it takes a long wait for penny's to drop.

AGE VERIFICATION Required before you enter this domain registration/sales site Strictly for your own protection.

I find this quite insensitive.

How would you feel if all the 'youngsters' got together and decided people over 50 shouldn't be driving? Or even made a joke about something like that?

It just sounds like you're getting old and realising that you're starting to become obsolete and you're desperately clutching onto the thought that you are still better at something than the 'youngsters' are.

 

[bmugford]

I find this quite insensitive.

Oh yeah...

It just sounds like you're getting old and realising that you're starting to become obsolete and you're desperately clutching onto the thought that you are still better at something than the 'youngsters' are.

Then you go on to say that.

When I was young I was poor. But after decades of hard work, I'm no longer young.

Brad

 

[nnzo]

@bmugford @BaileyUK

Even SUGGESTING that a HOBBY should be restricted to the older crowd is preposterous!

I'm sure there are many 'youngsters' half your age that are 'better' at this hobby and are making more money than you.

Again, I find it very insensitive, and although you're not being overly serious about it, it's just stupid we're having this discussion.

I may be younger and not have as much wisdom as you, but that doesn't stop me from learning, doing my best and taking part in a HOBBY (or more than a hobby, if I want it to be).

 

[BaileyUK]

I find this quite insensitive.

Hi nnzo.

I'm aware that it is a tad insensitive, hence I tried to inject a little bit of humour in the original post. Discussing anything these days can be construed as Insensitive, biased or prejudicial. Unfortunately this stifles open and directed debate. watch and listen to a politician or public figure speak today (apart from Mr Trump) and it's filled with non-descriptive terms for fear of alienating anyone or be seen as identifying a particular group.

My thoughts about everyone entering the domain arena has remained pretty constant over the last 5 to 10 years. At one time you really needed to seek out the information to truly get involved in domains. Now it's everywhere, as a road-to-riches model. So who are drawing-in, of course it's the inexperienced in any sort of investing mostly the younger generation.

I think if you look beyond the 'Insensitivities' there's really a serious side to this. Bloody good job I didn't expand on my thoughts about everyone having to employ a personnel domain registration agent before a domain could be registered (an overseer of gobbledegook) Now that really would have alienated the young creative crowd.

PS I do agree about relicensing the elderly every 5 years or so to use our roads. Indeed every year for some.

Yes I am only joking about the Overseer concept I was just thinking, What could be a step even further Mind you at least that wouldn't be seen as age biased. even though it would be.

 

[Samer]

Everything is offensive!
I love you.

 

[Samer]

I will take a moment to apologise for the "clapping like seals" comment. That was a little bit OT That's the trouble with Brit sarcasm it doesn't necessarily travel well.

Three minutes and 14 seconds of your time, sir.

Thank you.

 

[bmugford]

My thoughts about everyone entering the domain arena has remained pretty constant over the last 5 to 10 years. At one time you really needed to seek out the information to truly get involved in domains. Now it's everywhere, as a road-to-riches model. So who are drawing-in, of course it's the inexperienced in any sort of investing mostly the younger generation.

I'm sure there are many 'youngsters' half your age that are 'better' at this hobby and are making more money than you.

I may be younger and not have as much wisdom as you, but that doesn't stop me from learning, doing my best and taking part in a HOBBY (or more than a hobby, if I want it to be).

The good thing about this field is the low barrier to entry.

Anyone with a few dollars and a dream has a chance.

Of course, they have a much better chance if they are willing to do the work and learn.

It you treat it like an actual business, your odds are a lot higher than treating it like a lottery.

Brad

 

[Sutruk]

Nonsense. There are, and there have been young guys doing pretty well in domaining.

You don't need to study a degree to enter domaining. And domaining is something that not for being older you are going to know more. Brilliance, as well as stupidity, has no age.

Now, if you say "Marriage should be restricted to the over 50's" then I'd buy it.

 

[Domain boy]

I don't understand if this is a troll post or if you're serious hahaha

As there are extremely talented senior domainers in here there are also extremely talented youngsters

Often youngsters which are brilliant like to learn and listen to the more experienced.

It's nice just the way it is.. open to everyone

 

[BaileyUK]

Thank you Sutrak and Domain boy for commenting.

I can assure you this this thread opening comment was not supposed to be taken seriously. But I did intend it to be Provocative. So lets examine the intent. I am concerned about the number of members of late that have posted sales requests almost pleading for a sale of domain/s they hold. I am also concerned regarding the picture many hold of what makes for a saleable domain.

I would hope that newcomers to domains may take a moment to reflect before they jump right-in. Yes it is going to be a predominately younger crowd, Also dare I add, The non (first language) English speaking contingent (this would have been a much more difficult subject matter as a focus)

There are many, many posts/threads that explain the basics of domain sensibilities. Are they heeded ? No would be my response. The $5,000 value and above thread is generally a good example of How to get it wrong (the number of responses give you an indication of the size of the issue) And this is one of the most popular threads on Namepros

I would hope many would see this thread, just a tongue-in-cheek reflection point. Could it have been done better, Of course it could've been. Would that have been read - I think NOT.

I'm glad it has attracted the responses it has, And I hope far more newcomers have taken a moment to reflect but, haven't commented. I'm not concerned about those making the odd dabble into domains. But, I am genuinely concerned about those getting in over their heads. In the early days I know how addictive those two click buys/registrations become.

Hope this helps to clarify. I half expected my opening comments to almost scare members from giving any response. I can assure you I have only created about 5 or 6 threads in my entire membership. I am not into leg-pulling as a methodology but I think it may have partially worked.

I would have loved to kept-up the controversy but I think it has run its course really due to the number of misinterpretations

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[Brian L.]

Doesn’t matter whether you’re 10 or 90. All that matters is that you own domains that sell.

 

[Domainace]

That was a little bit OT That's the trouble with Brit sarcasm it doesn't necessarily travel well.

I am a bit saddened to see how many people seem to think you are seriously proposing that under-50s be barred from domains - and focus on that rather than the issue you raised. Seems much of the dialogue these days is like that.

I am currently negotiating on a domain where the owner of a slightly inferior version is asking 1 million dollars (maybe Dr. Evil owns it). I don't mind that at all, because it makes whatever I quote sound very reasonable by comparison. A lot of money flowing these days with crypto and all, so many younger people will assume outrageous profits are the norm.

 

[HotKey]

With age comes experience, and we hope, wisdom but often with it comes also complacency. With getting used to doing or seeing things a certain way. Change is rarely welcomed with open arms, particularly in the domaining industry. We are always looking to, comparing to, established interests that have dominated for decades.

I think by shutting out a younger crowd, these fresh perspectives and investments, limits our ability to visualize and anticipate a domaining world that succeeds what we have today- and perhaps fueled solely by an insatiable desire by many young people to be a part of something new. I wouldn't be open to missing that.

Some of the threads on here, like the one you pointed out, are good examples of maybe not only age demographics, but inexperience. Often there is never a better start than exactly there.

 

[BaileyUK]

Thanks you all for your further contributions. I'm pleased most can see this thread was intended as a tongue-in-cheek Parody that was intended to inject some serious discussion into what has always been a new-entrants into domains downfall, Was it correct to focus on the younger set, perhaps not. However, I took my guide from many years on here on Namepros and the clear identifying age-group predominating new registration discussion and attempted sales.

Is this something new and restricted to just that age group. NO not by any means. One only has to read the fairly prolific posts by certain older members to understand wisdom is certainly not the hallmark of age. Who are the group most likely to suffer the financial fallout of poor domain choices ? It is predominately the young dare I say ' 'influenced' age group.

I personally love to see, the young inventive mind at work, creating new and interesting identities for a new age internet. So where does this fall down? I would say it is mostly in the propensity for many of the younger generation to identify with just emulating or piggy-backing a term. No real understanding of the reason it struck Gold, The market dynamics that will ultimately side-step those golden words/lettering. The market limitations for absorbing the very few at the top of the tree etc.

There was a time when domainers in general took their guidance from getting their head down, looking for structure and pattern and applying these concepts to under explored markets. Basically a bit of hard-work. Now the belief is based on "He sold this for that" so mine is worth at least the same.

I could go on and on about the misfortunes that will befall the runaway minds. I just hope many are just in for the dabble. It is not truly seen as a road to wealth. Unfortunately many posts don't support that hope.

 

[hotcoffee]

I have 2 very favorite quotes.... that touch on this topic.... ENJOY!

I think it was Oscar Wilde that said:
"Experience is the hardest kind of teacher. It gives you the test first and the lesson afterward."

George Washington Carver was a very wise and kind man.... which is reflected in this quote:
"How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these."

 

[DNabc]

I'm racing to 50 (or flying?!) but been buying domains for a quarter of a century now

 

[Aibob]

OK, it's a of bit tongue in cheek comment. But more and more I'm becoming aware of how the youngsters in domains do not appear to connect to old-world values. The older generation are the best to connect with both the modern terminology but usually understand where value lays in terms that have appropriateness to many modern businesses. Basically solid foundations in that .com domain. The old minds have the ability of history, experience and adaptability. learning is just an additional aspect.

Whereas the younger generation only have their recent connectivity to go on. Sure they pick things up as they go along but blimey it takes a long wait for penny's to drop.

AGE VERIFICATION Required before you enter this domain registration/sales site Strictly for your own protection.

Lol they even fell for it, now we know who the kids are.

 

[Aibob]

OK, it's a of bit tongue in cheek comment. But more and more I'm becoming aware of how the youngsters in domains do not appear to connect to old-world values. The older generation are the best to connect with both the modern terminology but usually understand where value lays in terms that have appropriateness to many modern businesses. Basically solid foundations in that .com domain. The old minds have the ability of history, experience and adaptability. learning is just an additional aspect.

Whereas the younger generation only have their recent connectivity to go on. Sure they pick things up as they go along but blimey it takes a long wait for penny's to drop.

AGE VERIFICATION Required before you enter this domain registration/sales site Strictly for your own protection.

This whole thread is a hoot. Most of it is exactly what I remember our parents complaining about with us, and most likely their parents with them and so on and so forth

 

[BaileyUK]

This whole thread is a hoot. Most of it is exactly what I remember our parents complaining about with us, and most likely their parents with them and so on and so forth

Indeed, indeed.

I walked past a play area the other day. I had to laugh when one teenager said to a much younger girl
"Parents, they just never understand"

I am rather surprised that a few appear to have taken my opening comments to heart. I guess like all of us we sometimes just scan a thread and pick-up on what makes the blood boil and not its intended general nature.

Still, I suppose if you stoke a fire, expect some flame and heat

 

[lock]

I bought first domain in 20's now in 50's. I started too early.