poll Should NP downvoting be anonymous?

[redemo]

Simple question. Do you think downvoting and upvoting should be anonymous on Namepros, yes or no?

 

[HotKey]

Like the site Stack Overflow, the up and downs are anonymous and usually reflect a positive trust feedback from users on the correct answer. On NP, where things are more opinionated rather than "correct", I'm not so sure anonymous voting should be the correct way to garner a post's responsiveness from the community.

Also, because of the nature of domaining where there are so many nuances with no absolutes in how we choose to invest, domaining is not scripted, I believe the up and down voting and keeping it anonymous just fosters a non-participation approach while having potentially overly negative or optimistic optics without accountability.

So, in a nutshell, probably no.

 

[redemo]

Simple question. Do you think downvoting and upvoting should be anonymous on Namepros, yes or no?

I ask again @Bravo Mod Team is the same user downvoting my posts? I was restricted for it, so do the same rules apply to all? I know you can see who it is.

 

[redemo]

Like the site Stack Overflow, the up and downs are anonymous and usually reflect a positive trust feedback from users on the correct answer. On NP, where things are more opinionated rather than "correct", I'm not so sure anonymous voting should be the correct way to garner a post's responsiveness from the community.

Also, because of the nature of domaining where there are so many nuances with no absolutes in how we choose to invest, domaining is not scripted, I believe the up and down voting and keeping it anonymous just fosters a non-participation approach while having potentially overly negative or optimistic optics without accountability.

So, in a nutshell, probably no.

I've no problem with criticism, but I do have a problem with cowardice.

 

[Echo Mod Team]

I ask again @Bravo Mod Team is the same user downvoting my posts? I was restricted for it, so do the same rules apply to all? I know you can see who it is.

Hello,

Would you care to start a dedicated support thread, where you can list a few of them for a moderator team to investigate?

Teams are on at different times, so it helps when you can centralize the investigation to a single support thread where all moderator teams can be aware or assign the report to themselves to handle for you if they are available sooner, without taking other threads off-topic or randomizing them to be harder to follow. Each case should be handled independently of one another for accuracy.

General support: https://www.namepros.com/forums/namepros-general-support.184/

Once we establish a clear pattern, we can get more involved and take action.

 

[Paul]

I ask again @Bravo Mod Team is the same user downvoting my posts? I was restricted for it, so do the same rules apply to all? I know you can see who it is.

There isn't a single person responsible for downvoting you. You're being downvoted by a lot of different, unrelated people.

 

[Sam1234]

What is the criteria for being restricted for downvotes?

 

[Echo Mod Team]

What is the criteria for being restricted for downvotes?

Hello,

As outlined in our previous post, there must first be a dedicated investigation to try and identify a habitual pattern (E.g. Multiple downvotes in multiple different topics). If a pattern is identified, the member will first receive an official warning (If it's their first time offense). On a second offense, a member receives an official negative point warning/infraction. In the event a member continues to abuse the voting system, their account will be restricted from using the voting feature.

We hope that information helps.

 

[redemo]

There isn't a single person responsible for downvoting you. You're being downvoted by a lot of different, unrelated people.

Well, then I guess I'm unpopular. What I don't understand is if you don't like a poll because of the question, or the posts, then why contribute at all if it's just downvoting without an explanation? I don't gain any personal benefit in trying to contribute to the forum, other than an enhanced understanding of domaining, which is to everyone's benefit. For example, asking what is the definition of domainer? or how many domainers are there in the world? are legitimate questions with useful answers for everybody. Downvoting anonymously just seems like a total waste of everyone's time, including the downvoters. Perhaps they don't value their own time. I value mine.

 

[Sam1234]

Hello,

As outlined in our previous post, there must first be a dedicated investigation to try and identify a habitual pattern. If a pattern is identified, the member will first receive an official warning (If it's their first time offense). On a second offense, a member receives an official negative point warning/infraction. In the event a member continues to abuse the voting system, their account will be restricted from using the voting feature.

We hope that information helps.

Ah I see, misread what OP was saying, I thought he was banned for being downvoted too much

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

so, basically you're saying,
that i can't see them now... but maybe in the future, it's possible.
is that correct?

Correct, but that's only because you're a top member. It must be earned through contributory participation in the community. It could also be lost if a member demonstrates that they do not have the best interest of the community in mind with regards to their access to it and other community moderation features.

when a single person can have more than 1 account with a different user name, more than shill bidding can occur, which could damage the integrity of the forum, as a whole.

This actually helps us catch shill bidders because they have a false sense of anonymity between their accounts, but we typically can determine that they're the same person. Sometimes, this happens automatically. Sometimes, we need the community's help to bring it to our attention to investigate deeper than a robot can.

i have seen where two members of same household, with different user names, were both posting the same domains on the forum.

Were they the same person? If they were distinct people, then that makes sense. We don't want distinct people to share accounts unless it's a company/brand account.

whether or not it is a pattern or a random act, i still want to know who is doing it.
for that post in specific, there was no reason for a downvote as i expressed " glad" that the OP was getting something from his domains.

Each person is free to vote how they feel. That is important. If their opinion is the minority, then your post should end up with positive points. If the majority wants to downvote, then it should end up with negative points. In this particular case, your post is currently positive.

Focusing on a particular vote is unlikely to be productive. It's much better if you focus on the total number.

Chat wasnt that popular? Very popular before your time. What happened?

It may be that there are many new chat platforms that people enjoy using, such as Discord, so members come to NamePros for the threads now rather than the chatroom.

This year?

Unfortunately, it is unlikely to return this year, but next year is a real possibility.

We hope that helps.

 

[redemo]

If their opinion is the minority, then your post should end up with positive points.

If one person downvotes the same post five times and four different members upvote the post once doesn't that end up with a minus one? I'm in full agreement with @biggie here, for once, all voting should be linked to a username. I'm happy for my past malicious downvoting to be made public (oops, have I admitted a Namepros crime?), since it was in response to what I thought was another Namepros member maliciously downvoting my posts out of spite. Couldn't be sure though, since downvoting is anonymous. And breathe in....

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

If one person downvotes the same post five times and four different members upvote the post once doesn't that end up with a minus one?

Yes. That's why influence within the community is important. The majority of members cannot downvote a single post 5 times. The majority can only contribute a single downvote. As your influence in the community climbs, you have more responsibility and influence over the points on a single post.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

do the same rules apply to all?

The answer to this question is always: Yes.

We've never strayed from that, and we've never demonstrated favoritism.

Not once.

I do have a problem with cowardice

There are many legitimate reasons to non-publicly vote that have nothing to do with cowardice, but if you are going to be hostile toward someone for their opinion (you admitted to being retaliatory), then that's also a justifiable reason to not vote publicly.

They also may value their time and not be interested in wasting it dealing with a retaliatory person causing issues because of an opinionated vote. That doesn't imply cowardice; it could simply be that they have better things to do than deal with that. There's an important distinction there. They're not the same.

Downvoting anonymously just seems like a total waste of everyone's time, including the downvoters.

It's important to note that:

1. If a member does not want to reply to a post with one of the available quick replies (e.g., "Dislike" or "Dislike") on a post, then their only option is to non-publicly subtract points. It not being public is unrelated to why they did it in that situation. Perhaps they rather quick reply with, "This post is inaccurate" or "This post is misleading."
2. A member could quick reply with "Thanks" to your post and remove 2 points from the same post because they feel it is a low-quality post, but they're thankful that you attempted to contribute to the discussion. Again, nothing to do with it being public or not, but that is their only option to express those two things simultaneously.
3. It's unproductive to focus on individual points. It's better to focus on the total number of points after a sufficient period of time has passed.

We hope that helps.

 

[branding]

Just curious... If you had that info, what would you do with it? What's there to gain? Nothing.

Those who care are usually the ones who go bonkers over being downvoted.

Then there are users inviting people to downvote their posts and get mad when it happens and open polls about whether those votes should be public.

Keep them anonymous or remove the feature entirely I'd say. This forum shouldn't be about a popularity contest. We've got Twitter for that.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

I am not taking this vote seriously as people are voting for or against OP as much as wether they want to hide their already hidden identity.

 

[Sam1234]

It's anonymous because every time someone posts something and gets downvoted, it shouldn't be an opportunity for that person to harrass the downvoter and demand an explanation.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

I want to know who I am dealing with like in the old days before we hád to start hiding our identities for security reasons.
Would you rather I had anonymously downvoted you?
Debate without hate

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

Get rid of dislike and disagree like and thanks then. Lets do it all ANONYMOUSly

 

[Sam1234]

I want to know who I am dealing with like in the old days before we hád to start hiding our identities for security reasons.
Would you rather I had anonymously downvoted you?
Debate without hate

If downvotes are all public then people can post nonsense and people won't call them on it because (having jobs and such) they don't have time for the loooong conversation that is likely to result. So it just becomes a board full of nonsense. If you post garbage you get negged, simple. Just my opinion. Doesn't really matter that much to me.

 

[Sam1234]

I want to know who I am dealing with like in the old days before we hád to start hiding our identities for security reasons.
Would you rather I had anonymously downvoted you?
Debate without hate

I really don't care if you downvote me. In fact I dare you

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

Here’s a related thread:

• https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...mous-downvoting-upvoting.1281608/post-8683183

The context of that thread is useful to this poll.

 

[redemo]

Just curious... If you had that info, what would you do with it? What's there to gain? Nothing.

Those who care are usually the ones who go bonkers over being downvoted.

Then there are users inviting people to downvote their posts and get mad when it happens and open polls about whether those votes should be public.

Keep them anonymous or remove the feature entirely I'd say. This forum shouldn't be about a popularity contest. We've got Twitter for that.

If you can't define what a domainer is YOU AREN'T A DOMAINER.

 

[redemo]

Here’s a related thread:

• https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...mous-downvoting-upvoting.1281608/post-8683183

The context of that thread is useful to this poll.

Nah I don't care about this any more. Downvoting is a crap feature. End of story.

 

[branding]

If you can't define what a domainer is YOU AREN'T A DOMAINER.

So you're not a domainer then, by your own definition?

Also, I think you're replying in the wrong thread?