sales ChicagoPizza.com Sold for $9,400 USD – What's your thoughts?

[Robbie]

The domain name ChicagoPizza.com sold on GoDaddy yesterday for $9,400 USD, What are your thoughts on this domain name?

The domain name was registered back in 1998 and didn’t resolve for many years according to Achrive.org historical records, It was then parked at GoDaddy CashParking for a number of years and now has dropped and been auctioned on GoDaddy for $9,400 USD.

What is Chicago Pizza or Chicago Style Pizza – I do love myself a slice of deep-dish pizza – Do you?

Chicago-style pizza is pizza prepared according to several different styles developed in Chicago. The most famous is the deep-dish pizza. The pan in which it is baked gives the pizza its characteristically high edge which provides ample space for large amounts of cheese and a chunky tomato sauce. Chicago-style pizza may be prepared in deep-dish style and as a stuffed pizza

The domain name ChicagoStylePizza.com is already taken too before anyone heads on over to check it out, registered back in 1997 owned by The Malnati Organization

So what do you think was $9,400 USD a good buy?

I think it was and there are a number of companies who could take advantage of this great name, it will be interesting to see who acquired on GoDaddy Auctions, I suspect a domain name investor not an end-user but we will know in due course – Congrats to the buyer, I think you got a great name with nice opportunity in for future resale.

Ever wanted to know what domain names Domino Pizza Owns you can check out the full list here.

http://robbiesblog.com/chicagopizza-com-sold-for-9400-usd-whats-your-thoughts/8543

 

[Lox]

Is Afternic holding the domain for their long time customer

Usually, domains stay in redemption for approximately 100 days. Regarding "Caruthers" ... another story

 

[Chris Hydrick]

I would hope the GoDaddy UI allows that user to quickly renew without being exploited or price gouged.

https://domaininvesting.com/godaddy-auctions-wins-can-still-be-cancelled/

From the comment section of that @EJS article.

Tagging Puneet @barybadrinath

 

[Lox]

Thx @Keith

 

[Chris Hydrick]

Thx @Keith

https://twitter.com/x/status/1372946979643359234

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1372949136249647107

 

[Lox]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1372940016398209029

Most bidders try to remain calm, this one didn't manage. His feelings of frustration or irritation is like he's entering a 'new normal GD'. There's a huge empty space for a brand new domain auction platform. Let's wait.

 

[Chris Hydrick]

Most bidders try to remain calm, this one didn't manage. His feelings of frustration or irritation is like he's entering a 'new normal GD'. There's a huge empty space for a brand new domain auction platform. Let's wait.

I'm curious where @AmanBhutani is during all this?

As if one GoDaddy scandal wasn't enough, does he really intend to keep his head burried in the sand (or buried in private secretive domain forums) while navigating the iceberg filled waters of 2021. I mean, he's not selling hotel rooms any more. Is he there just as a #trophyCEO to look good filling a board seat there, and at the NYT, or does Aman actually provide GD with any type of tangible guiding value?

Why Aman has no presence on the industries most popular public domain forum is beyond me. @AmanBhutani get off the private forum and come join namePros. Or @GoDaddy, perhaps it's time to #FireAman #HireAWomanCEO

 

[Chris Hydrick]

Most bidders try to remain calm, this one didn't manage.

IDK... Seems like he is tired of the GD double talk, and just wants straight answers and fairness. And frankly, I think the entire industry (those who are not making backroom deals and/or the ones NOT on private secretive domain forums) is sick of GD preferential treatment and how that sits with the public facing double talk. #FireAman #HireAWomanCEO

https://twitter.com/x/status/1373124788080803841

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1373279713565761545

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1373006664929009665

 

[Lox]

I'm curious where Aman is during all this?

As if one GoDaddy scandal wasn't enough, does he really intend to keep his head in the sand while navigating the iceberg filled waters of 2021. I mean, he's not selling hotel rooms any more.

Why Aman has no presence on the industries most popular forum is beyond me. @AmanBhutani get off the private forum and come join namePros. Or @GoDaddy, perhaps it's time to #FireAman, and hire a woman as CEO!

I guess, after "the Hill" case and CIntel requests, Aman is more focused on investigating customers website content and/or registered domain names. The GD is too big for 1 brain to handle all-wayback bugs and problems small-mid domain investors facing each day. But ... there's more coming soon. 1 thing people here should be grateful for is: Joe's & Paul's support is outstanding.

Regards

 

[Lox]

IDK... Seems like he is tired of the GD double talk, and just wants straight answers and fairness.

That's why I & legal team drink at least gallon of coffee per day. For hours, reading F#uc%d up ToS and Privacy. After BO v PA v GD incident, I moved all my clients dn's out of GD. Good luck.

Regards

 

[Chris Hydrick]

From the comment section of that @EJS article.

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Tagging Puneet @barybadrinath

It just doesn't seem fair/ethical as to why GoDaddy would allow CARUTHERS ASSOCIATES to renew his expired domain even though it had a bid on it, and yet, GoDaddy won't (or doesn't easily / has expressed otherwise to this forum) extend that luxury to all customers such as PUNEET AGARWAL, or other domain registrants who fell victim to housing their domain at GoDaddy.

It seems as if these actions by GoDaddy could be a contributing factor (and possibly be held accountable/responsible) to the poor/declining mental health that exists within domain addicts/the GD domain investment community. And since domain investing is essentially an unregulated international investment practice, it seems that GoDaddy is intentionally and callously, hyping the domain aftermarket to their advantage, and setting the rules to favor GoDaddy at the expense of domain registrants time, money, and mental health.

If GoDaddy (applied their ToS equally and operated their company without bias) allowed Puneet to renew his domains as GoDaddy allowed Caruthers to renew ChicgaoPizza.com, or if GoDaddy split expired domain proceeds with the domain registrant, would Puneet have resorted to using Brent Oxleys (@create.com) credit card allegedly without Brents permission? IDK. And frankly, that's too much of a dumpster fire to jump into, just saying, if GoDaddy were to respect registrant rights (even if just a little bit) the mental health of domain registrants would likely be more stable, and the entire internet as a whole would be to benefit/thrive.

#FireAman #HireAWomanCEO #StopValuingProfitsOverMentalHealth #GasLighters

 

[Lox]

@Grilled As far as I can tell, this guy (twitter) is a person who should own ChicagoPizza .com ( ... is crazy about Chicago Pizza )

 

[Chris Hydrick]

@Grilled As far as I can tell, this guy (twitter) is a person who should own ChicagoPizza .com ( ... is crazy about Chicago Pizza )

I agree.

My point is, if GD is going to allow Caruthers to renew his domain name, then they should allow Agarwal (or any last name, regardless of social status, lineage, or location) to renew their domain name. And no more accepting this: once a bid has been placed > domain can't be renewed > double talk > that causes a strain on the mental health of domain registrants.

 

[Lox]

I agree.

My point is, if GD is going to allow Caruthers to renew his domain name, then they should allow Agarwal (or any last name, regardless of social status, lineage, or location) to renew his domain name. And none of this accepting once a bid has been placed, it can no longer be removed double talk that causes a strain on the mental health of domain investors.

Let me think loud, think only.
What IF
Domain name reg. @ GD is a type of owned stock AND domain name expire AND domain enters GD Auction AND GD misleading positive statements (EXPIRED), in order to sell the cheaply purchased (VRSGN $7.85 or less) stock at a higher price. What Is this Game called? I'm thinking only! I'm from yesterday!

Regards

 

[SirDrago]

there is still room for profit, i was thinking low 5 figs. ty. congrats to buyer and seller.

I agree, xx,xxx
12k-18k range

 

[Chris Hydrick]

I agree, xx,xxx
12k-18k range

Update:

1. Domain didn't sell for $9.4k; auction cancelled, domain renewed.
2. Buyer tweeted a $100,000 offer for ChicagoPizza.com after GD cancelled his $9.4k order.
3. Still to be determined.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1373006658385891331

 

[NameBuyer.com]

At $9,400 it would have been a great investment.

Could it sell for $100k-$300k+ to the right enduser? Yes.

The side story is interesting as I didn't think there was any way to still renew a domain that has expired and sold at auction if the domain is registered at GoDaddy. Out of fairness, I would hope there is not a two tier system where certain customers can renew, and "other" customers cannot. But if it was truly an "edge" case, that should be applauded as any one of us would hope for the same consideration if we lost a domain under similar circumstances.

 

[Lox]

Update:
Buyer tweeted a $100,000 offer for ChicagoPizza.com after GD cancelled his $9.4k order.

Don't get me wrong....
If you're one of brains who started (idea) Chicago Pizza delivery service (s.a. ubereats, door etc) and delivery fee is % less + pizzeria/restaurant pay % less?

20% (+/- 1,750,000) of Chicagoans order pizza for dinner at least 5 per year. (nielsen research)
Population 8,865,000
Pizzas 5/yr x 1,750,000 = 8,750,000 x $%Pizza = Delivery service % = profit $% ($1+%?)

How much ChicagoPizza.com is worth?

Regards

 

[Chris Hydrick]

20% (+/- 1,750,000) of Chicagoans order pizza for dinner at least 5 per year. (nielsen research)
Population 8,865,000
Pizzas 5/yr x 1,750,000 = 8,750,000 x $Pizza = Delivery service profit $% ($1+%?)

How much ChicagoPizza.com is worth?

I think it's more of a Branding play, rather than a GEO play.

Instagram HashTags...

Compared to

Thus, it's similar to a domain like MauiWowie.com (#68,903 Instagram tags).

Sure, MauiWowie.com could be used to sell FIRE roasted chicken in Oahu. OR, it be used as a branding play, for say the medicinal cannabis industry.

Speaking to brandable/geo trends, the leading brandable marketplace, BrandBucket, lists geo domains such as MauiCanna.com and AspenSprings.com. I don't imagine they were accepted with the respected local communities in mind, but rather could be a national brand based off of what the region is known for.

Silly domainers, geos are for brands!

 

[Lox]

LOL

Domain name/s are investment in a coming soon company's financial/success future. Investing your $10/yr and time means that you engage in Cyberspace stocks - Digital Futures. It's very different than investing in ping pong stocks. Domain name have the capacity to become a supernova - Milliton.

So if we've been holding off on selling for big $ because "it's just too hard to wait for ...holy grail", we can't use that excuse - pardon.

$10K for a DN ... entering $20M+ profit/year market; you can do that now or you can just watch and wait for ...holy grail.

Forget Estibot, use Estimator.

Regards

 

[Chris Hydrick]

wait for ...holy grail

Forget Estibot, use Estimator.

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When searching: https://www.godaddy.com/domain-value-appraisal for any terms that say something similar to other investment advertisements, such as please invest responsibly, I found no notice, or disclaimer of any kind. What kind of investment atmosphere is GoDaddy trying to create here? ...Maybe I'm missing something?

 

[Lox]

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Dang!?!?#$*& What on Earth happened? was Appraisal, Valuator? GDFogging
... there's more coming soon.

OK! Forget Estibot & Estimator, use Abacus

& Thx for Monty

 

[Chris Hydrick]

When searching: https://www.godaddy.com/domain-value-appraisal for any terms that say something similar to other investment advertisements, such as please invest responsibly, I found no notice, or disclaimer of any kind. What kind of investment atmosphere is GoDaddy trying to create here? ...Maybe I'm missing something?

Dang!?!?#$*& What on Earth happened? was Appraisal, Valuator? #GDFogging

OK! Forget Estibot & Estimator, use Abacus

& Thx for Monty

Yeah, I'm not a lawyer or anything, so this is beyond my expertise. It just seems to me that GoDaddy is begging for a class action lawsuit from domain registrants for creating/incubating an irresponsible investing atmosphere/practice lacking proper disclaimers and fueling the unregulated fire through aggressive marketing and a subsequent callous disregard to registrants time, money, and mental health. Effectively priming netizens to enter a possible environment prone/likely to incubate an addiction or the hardships that tend to follow absent of necessary/proper/visible warnings/disclaimers.

It's almost as if the more information that comes out, the easier it gets to paint a historical picture of GoDaddys longstanding effort to strategically position shareholder profits over any true regard to domain registrant rights, and/or responsible/transparent fair practices. As fair practices and transparency, would likely support and allow for a healthy ecosystem to flourish for ALL, opposed to the lucrative expired domain marketplace (where godaddy hijacks the right to the domain, and sells the domain for full profit without allowing the registrant an easy way to renew between days 30 and 45 OR without extending ANY portion of the profits their domain investment yielded to GD). As it seems GD has tried to describe/position this practice as a common industry norm unprotected by any real oversight, regulation, or for lack of a better term deflecting their greedy practices/mishaps to a CorporateSponsoredIndustryLobbyingAssociation for guidance, oppose to simply stopping the madness, and being fair to both shareholder and registrant.

Tagging a few domain lawyers for possible comment: @jberryhill @Zak Muscovitch @xynames @patents

**apologies if this comment is taking this thread off topic. Perhaps, this side discussion deserves its own thread.

 

[Lox]

What kind of investment atmosphere is GoDaddy trying to create here? ...Maybe I'm missing something?

There's little hope! Buy for $792 sell for $10M (bc there's no comparable domains sold) but first, you have to pay for the GD brokerage service (no-refund) to find out "not for sale" LMAO. (long time ago, I comment on Joe S post about the GD Valuator and ML/AI".) Doesn't matter. Next

I'm Pissed, Royally Pissed!

 

[Chris Hydrick]

There's little hope! Buy for $792 sell for $10M (bc there's no comparable domains sold) but first, you have to pay for the GD brokerage service (no-refund) to find out "not for sale" LMAO. (long time ago, I comment on Joe S post about the GD Valuator and ML/AI".) Doesn't matter. Next


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I think the point of the domain valuator is to attempt to value the domain, no related to the business, or backlinks/traffic/WHOIS-inquires, associated with the domain, but who knows what the algorithm is using when hiding behind broad marketing terms such as based on real-market data.

Epik > Dynadot > namePros > domainPros > TitlePros > Lougle > goaddy.CAM

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If GoDaddy's real-market data includes piggy backing off of typo domain sales, such as Goagle.com, perhaps they should include a little information about cyber-squatting risk, best practices, and internal policies such domain renewal time frames, and any other relevant information/disclaimers one would expect a responsible investing platform to equip its userbase with prior to launching an aggressive advertising/marketing/productdevelopment push designed to recruit more investors to use their platform.

It's almost as if GD thinks its helping domain investors by expanding the market, but really, if GoDaddy doesn't start acting with any real concern to registrant rights, domain addiction, or investor education, without providing proper disclaimers/education, GoDaddy may very well be severely hindering the practice or future growth of domain investing as we know it. Perhaps oversight and regulation to the industry will be a good thing. And all of GoDaddy's negligence and subsequent incubation of an irresponsible investment community/disproportionate marketplace profit distribution, is seemingly pushing us to a quicker regulated practice, that will establish real oversight and investor/consumer protection. Ultimately, so domain registrants and companies can finally stop being exploited and or taken advantage of by the likes of GoDaddys attempts to define/establish (through lobbying or product placing) unfair unregulated disproportionate irresponsible industry norms.

 

[Lox]

I think the point of the domain valuator is to attempt to value the domain, no related to the business, or backlinks/traffic/WHOIS-inquires, associated with the domain, but who knows what the algorithm is using when hiding behind broad marketing terms such as based on real-market data.

There’s a lot of data out there. In zettabytes. 450M+ domain names and more than 2B sub.name.ext etc. and so far only +/- 20% of it is being analyzed for "actionable" intel. Today, only a few co. can afford the tools and backbone infrastructure needed to analyze the data and provide true "predictive insights".

GoDaddy can't afford this or maybe they can, but then, why they're using a bunch of 3rd party data harvesters/providers to collect BIN data, DN MaO sniffing (triggered by form) etc ...

AI/ML - In too many instances, we rely on "best guesses". And that's what we can see @ GD appraisal result. In short, we're using unstable GD Valuator toy anyway and we're not paid for testing out an alpha or baby-baby-beta release v.

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AI result

ChicagoPizza .com? This domain name can make $54794.520547945205479 in an hour / net.

Regards