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I'm catching the tail end of this, seems to be some kind of controversy...

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/rob-monster-off-twitter-after-christchurch-massacre-controversy/

Must be something odd to evoke this type of a response from one of our members.

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OK, Frank.

Any relation to Heinrich Mueller? I know this is before your time but curious on the family connection there since the Nazi stuff really seems to get your goat.

@Rob Monster

Why would you post personal details of a customer on a public forum? Even if he did decide to no longer be a customer this is extremely inappropriate and a serious breach of privacy.

And to evoke nonchalantly the nazis and try to make a bogus connection to that person shows how you personally feel about the nazis. And it shows that your personal attacks are getting more and more dangerous.

This should give anyone a pause for thought whether they want to do business with Rob and Epik.
 
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@Rob Monster

Why would you post personal details of a customer on a public forum? Even if he did decide to no longer be a customer this is extremely inappropriate and a serious breach of privacy.

And to evoke nonchalantly the nazis and try to make a bogus connection to that person shows how you personally feel about the nazis. And it shows that your personal attacks are getting more and more dangerous.

This should give anyone a pause for thought whether they want to do business with Rob and Epik.

FWIW, I think Frank is the only client to actually declare he was leaving Epik. He did not actually leave, so that should give some vague hint that rhetoric and virtue-signaling aside, most people are rational and will go to the places that give them great value for money, and which are governed by serious people.

Even though Frank often trolls in this thread and claims that he will stop posting in this thread, he does keep coming back. I love Frank and do hope he stays since this thread would not be the same without a determined German atheist telling people who believe in a higher power that they are all crazy! After all, he is on his own journey.

By the way, Ghodeus also claims to be a client. I have no evidence that this is the case. Regardless, I am listening to what he has to say and am making time for him to hear him out and to work with him in good faith. We were supposed to connect for a call this weekend but that did not quite work. I am guessing we'll connect later in the week.

For anyone new to this thread, the entire premise of this thread has been to convince people that Epik is some kind of evil chaos-agent that empowers all kinds of malfeasance. It is the same narrative being trotted out by leftist media. Sadly, it is even being trotted out by people who claim to be Christian.

On page 16 of this thread, I decided to engage the dialog here on NamePros. Since then I have held nothing back. Occasionally I have called out hypocrisy or nonsense. And even though I sense that TCK is pushing a subversive pro-censorship agenda, I love him too and don't object to the banter.

Looking ahead, I have very little doubt that we are living in historic times. It is a good time to be asking important questions about the meaning of life and to be seeking answers. Why? Because there are highly motivated and intelligent people who are working together to restrict those possibilities.

At the end of the day I accept that not everyone will agree with me. I am willing to hear them out, and will even debate openly with them, to the extent that they are engaging in good faith. And with that, I wish everyone a great start to the week!
 
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quote from
"fake" by Robert Kyosaki ( rich dad - poor dad )

"
we are already in that war [3rd world war].
it is a war on many fronts and many levels.
today's wars are known as currency wars,
trade wars, terrorism, technology wars,
military wars,

and social media wars.
"
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while you struggle about "free speech"
which means everyone may postulate whatever hate he wants to spread

while you do so
the real problem coming nearer:

humanity has made it's last invention:
AI


what is AI?

software coding software
updating itself
infinitely

and the problem is:
it's not science fiction

it exists



it's always

"we against them"

the core of all evil

but soon it will be humanity
against AI which can't be won


unless we become human

 
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Just so you know, i am also one of those people who worry, that someday, while I walk the mall (which I havent done for years) or i am out there minding my business, someone is going to come and gun me down because I look different.

A lot of people are thinking the same thing.
 
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@Rob Monster , many people here have been defending you when you were the subject of personal attacks for the fact that they realized that you were trying to protect and preserve free speech. As long as people are playing by the rules it's not right for them to be attacked personally in any way just because one doesn't like their personality or doesn't agree with what they are saying ,in my opinion the same principal should be extended to Frank (last name left out) too. After so much discussion in this thread I like to think that you and Frank and many others here have been able to connect at a higher level that goes beyond politics, religion, and race. I noticed that both you and Frank had Thanked me a few comments earlier when I said "we need free speech to empower people" and as far as I am concerned if you and Frank can agree on something like that then a lot of progress has already been made. :)

People should be able to connect with each other on a common cause or idea and still be able to keep their own beliefs and values, that's when Free Speech has achieved it's purpose. IMO
 
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@Rob Monster , many people here have been defending you when you were the subject of personal attacks for the fact that they realized that you were trying to protect and preserve free speech. As long as people are playing by the rules it's not right for them to be attacked personally in any way just because one doesn't like their personality or doesn't agree with what they are saying ,in my opinion the same principal should be extended to Frank (last name left out). After so much discussion in this thread I like to think that you and Frank and many others here have been able to connect at a higher level that goes beyond politics, religion, and race. I noticed that both you and Frank had Thanked me a few comments earlier when I said "we need free speech to empower people" and as far as I am concerned if you and Frank can agree on something like that then a lot of progress has already been made. :)


you may say whatever you like
as long as you don't encourage people
to act violently against others

I may like it or not
that's not the point

but to create hate
that's a different ball game

at least that's my understanding of free speech


on the other hand
you may hear things from me
you can't agree on

that's the game
 
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A lot of people are thinking the same thing.

In short, that's what the adversary wants -- to give you fear and anxiety. Such people are more easily divided, ruled and subjugated as they surrender God-given rights.

This does not mean to say that I suggest that anyone should condone anarchy or lawlessness. Romans 13 is clear that we are to be law-abiding.

However, this I know for sure:

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The God of creation who knows every hair on your head, and presumably ever cell and atom in your being, surely does not miss much.

In other words, for a person resting in the finished work of Jesus Christ, walking with humility in the spirit, there really should not be a basis for fear.

For calibration, I have numerous death threats over the past year and perhaps even one close encounter. I sleep like a baby.

Besides if something were to happen to me, the entire code base of all our platforms would be in the public domain and the adversary knows this to be the case.

@Rob Monster , many people here have been defending you when you were the subject of personal attacks for the fact that they realized that you were trying to protect and preserve free speech. As long as people are playing by the rules it's not right for them to be attacked personally in any way just because one doesn't like their personality or doesn't agree with what they are saying ,in my opinion the same principal should be extended to Frank (last name left out). After so much discussion in this thread I like to think that you and Frank and many others here have been able to connect at a higher level that goes beyond politics, religion, and race. I noticed that both you and Frank had Thanked me a few comments earlier when I said "we need free speech to empower people" and as far as I am concerned if you and Frank can agree on something like that then a lot of progress has already been made. :)

I have no bone to pick with Frank. I think he should consider cutting me some slack. That said, I don't begrudge him for disagreeing. He presents his case with vigor but he is actually less judgmental and more tolerant than others, e.g. TCK who openly advocates for shunning and condemnation, no different than an ANTIFA leftist.

As a new arrival to this thread, we have "Ghodeus" who openly disagrees with me on some stuff, perhaps with faux indignation. However, to his credit, he stops short of ad hominem and actually wants to work on solutions for the benefit of the industry's governance in a way that ICANN and WIPO probably fall short.

By the way, Candace Owens cracked me up this morning:

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TCK who openly advocates for shunning and condemnation, no different than an ANTIFA leftist.

Show me an example for where I have done this. Or I expect an apology.
 
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Anyone here going to Burning Man this year? It kicked off yesterday in Blackrock City. This is the 33rd year of Burning Man.

Worth noting, they will burn the man at 9 pm PT on this coming Saturday night, after the newly sighted moon sets in the West .

TorahCalendar says that this coincides with Yom Teruah though Hebcal and Chabad say it is a month later:

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ICYMI, this is what the Burning Man temple is supposed to look like:

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Not sure if it is up yet -- the above picture is the design. Knowing how the occultists roll, I am sure there is some cleverness with how sunrise or sunset interact with it.

Anyway, back to domaining, but thought worth sharing for those who aren't up on their Pagan sun rituals. :)
 
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Show me an example for where I have done this. Or I expect an apology.

It's called Shunning Bro. You did it earlier today:

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Schizo much?
 
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Sorry to hear that. I wonder what happen to make people that mad at you.

It was related to allowing sites like Gab to be online and standing on principle with regards to lawful free speech. Some folks don't like that idea. Law enforcement and FBI were alerted. It comes with the territory. Stand for something or fall for anything.
 
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What part of that is shunning?

Rob, your name calling and labeling people because of one comment that irks you makes you look like a very small person.

I am actually just trying to diagnose your condition. You somehow struggle with keeping track of your own narratives. For this reason, I have stopped taking you seriously.

Also, I think your Biblical doctrine on non-existence of a fiery hell is messed up, e.g. Matthew 25 makes the everlasting condition pretty clear.

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Is it possible that God in his infinite mercy will let folks out over the 1000 years of the Millennial Kingdom? Yes, entirely possible, but again not going to rely on that!

Regardless, a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. I have zero confidence in any of your intentions, nor those of your sock puppet personas. You are a false accuser.

Sorry TCK, I love you but in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, I rebuke the spirit that is animating your nonsense and dispatch it to the pit where it belongs.
 
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just for the records,
in case somebody cares.

I'm in the process of leaving epik
before all this started
I had about 30% more domains at epik than today
( 4xx versus 3xx now)

but I'm not in a hurry
I won't renew them all
so I have to do some due diligence first

but I won't stay at epik
even though Rob as a registrar
treats domainers first class.
 
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just for the records,
in case somebody cares.

I'm in the process of leaving epik
before all this started
I had about 30% more domains at epik than today
( 4xx versus 3xx now)

but I'm not in a hurry
I won't renew them all
so I have to do some due diligence first

but I won't stay at epik
even though Rob as a registry
treats domainers first class.

And we are happy to have you. Just as we host many domains and provide a range of services for people whose views and ideologies are different than mine. As long as it is lawful, it stands. My views or biases really are not part of that equation precisely because we are all on a journey -- including me. Thanks Frank!
 
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Decent article here that provides a timely reminder for why Silicon Valley may or may not be your friend when it comes to preserving sovereignty in the Digital Age:

https://www.fastcompany.com/9039404...building-a-chinese-style-social-credit-system

Interoperable systems built around structured data can be a great thing. However, if they become weaponized against wrong-think, then not so much.

Domainers should love small enterprise and should want nothing to do with authoritarianism or technocracy.

When it comes to getting large exits on domain sales, domainers will need an abundance of startups.

While there are certainly exceptions, large companies rarely innovate. By and large, they use their superior access to capital markets to buy growth businesses.

ICYMI, the classic text on this is Clayton Christensen's Innovators Dilemma. The PDF is online or buy a used copy on Abe Books for $3.78 with free shipping. See here.
 
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@Rob Monster , I agree that TCK is sometimes too blunt in his criticism of you, and that may come across as if he is out to get you rather than trying to help you to perhaps correct a lapse in judgment, but you should not allow his pointed remarks to set you off to the point that is going to make you to become intolerant and combative. Remember that not all speech is going to be pleasant and to our liking, in order to have respect for Free Speech it requires that we have respect for our worst adversaries and critics as long as they play by the rules and are expressing their grievances in a civilized and professional manner. When the conversation deteriorates into name calling, threats, false accusations, and labeling of others that is a big loss to everyone. Yes TCK sometimes comes across as being a little too harsh and persistent in his criticism of you, but then the principles of Free Speech gives him that right as long as he is playing by the rules, and that’s exactly the right that you have been fighting to defend and preserve for everyone all along, we all need to remember that Free Speech is a double edged sword, and sometimes it works for us and sometimes it might be used against us. As a strong advocate for Free Speech you should not be so quick to condemn him when what he say goes against your liking or interest. Being tolerant of criticism is an important virtue to have when it comes to Free Speech. IMO
 
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@Rob Monster , I agree that TCK is sometimes too blunt in his criticism of you, and that may come across as if he is out to get you rather than trying to help you to perhaps correct a lapse in judgment, but you should not allow his pointed remarks to set you off to the point that is going to make you to become intolerant and combative. Remember that not all speech is going to be pleasant and to our liking, in order to have respect for Free Speech it requires that we have respect for our worst adversaries and critics as long as they play by the rules and are expressing their grievances in a civilized and professional manner. When the conversation deteriorates into name calling, threats, false accusations, and labeling of others that is a big loss to everyone. Yes TCK sometimes comes across as being a little too harsh and persistent in his criticism of you, but then the principles of Free Speech gives him that right as long as he is playing by the rules, and that’s exactly the right that you have been fighting to defend and preserve for everyone all along, we all need to remember that Free Speech is a double edged sword, and sometimes it works for us and sometimes it might be used against us. As a strong advocate for Free Speech you should not be so quick to condemn him when what he say goes against your liking or interest. Being tolerant of criticism is an important virtue to have when it comes to Free Speech. IMO

I have thick skin. There is no issue there.

My issue is with duplicity. No sincere Christian would call for a boycott of a fellow Christian and/or run endless defamatory hit pieces on a blog.

I prefer this:

If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. - Romans 12:18

I very actively tried this:

Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. - Matthew 18:15

That clearly did not work. I am left with this:

Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
- 1 Tim 5:20

Open rebuke was a matter of last resort. It is done.
 
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I have thick skin. There is no issue there.

My issue is with duplicity. No sincere Christian would call for a boycott of a fellow Christian and/or run endless defamatory hit pieces on a blog.

I prefer this:

If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. - Romans 12:18

I very actively tried this:

Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. - Matthew 18:15

That clearly did not work. I am left with this:

Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
- 1 Tim 5:20

Open rebuke was a matter of last resort. It is done.

as you @Rob Monster can't stop citing the bible
here are some bible codes to please you:



did you read the bible lately?
Here comes "Gods own words" word telling you how to deal with your slaves:


https://biblia.com/bible/esv/Exod. 21

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21 “Now these are the rules that you shall set before them. When you buy a Hebrew slave,

he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing.

if the slave plainly says, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free,’ "



"If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master’s, and he shall go out alone."



“When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do."


"If she does not please her master, who has designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has broken faith with her."



" If he designates her for his son, he shall deal with her as with a daughter. "

" If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, or her marital rights.
And if he does not do these three things for her, she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money."

“When a man strikes the eye of his slave, male or female, and destroys it, he shall let the slave go free because of his eye"

"If he knocks out the tooth of his slave, male or female, he shall let the slave go free because of his tooth."

“When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged.
But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money."


“If a man steals an ox or a sheep, and kills it or sells it,
he shall repay five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep.
If a thief is found breaking in and is struck so that he dies,
there shall be no bloodguilt for him,
but if the sun has risen on him, there shall be bloodguilt for him.
He shall surely pay.
If he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft. "

quote ends ( bible ) ..


"Gods own words"
directly from the bible




https://www.theologyofwork.org/old-...slavery-or-indentured-servitude-exodus-211-11

quote starts...
We find much in Exodus that speaks to everyday work. But these instructions and rules take place in a work context that existed over three thousand years ago. Time has not stood still, and our workplaces have changed. Some passages, such as “You shall not murder” (Exod. 20:13), seem to fit today’s context much as they did in Moses’ time. Others, such as “If someone’s ox hurts the ox of another, so that it dies, then they shall sell the live ox and divide the price of it” (Exod. 21:35), seem less directly applicable to most modern workplaces. How can we honor, obey, and apply God’s word in Exodus without falling into the traps of legalism or misapplication?
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Although God liberated the Hebrews from slavery in Egypt, slavery is not universally prohibited in the Bible. Slavery was permissible in certain situations, so long as slaves were regarded as full members of the community (Gen. 17:12), received the same rest periods and holidays as non-slaves (Exod. 23:12; Deut. 5:14-15, 12:12), and were treated humanely (Exod. 21:7, 26-27). Most importantly, slavery among Hebrews was not intended as a permanent condition, but a voluntary, temporary refuge for people suffering what would otherwise be desperate poverty. “When you buy a male Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, but in the seventh he shall go out a free person, without debt” (Exod. 21:2). Cruelty on the part of the owner resulted in immediate freedom for the slave (Exod. 21:26-27). This made male Hebrew slavery more like a kind of long-term labor contract among individuals, and less like the kind of permanent exploitation that has characterized slavery in modern times.

Female Hebrew slavery was in one sense even more protective. The chief purpose contemplated for buying a female slave was so that she could become the wife of either the buyer or the buyer’s son (Exod. 21:8-9). As wife, she became the social equal of the slaveholder, and the purchase functioned much like the giving of a dowry. Indeed, she is even called a “wife” by the regulation (Exod. 21:10). Moreover, if the buyer failed to treat the female slave with all the rights due an ordinary wife, he was required to set her free. “She shall go out without debt, without payment of money” (Exod. 21:11). Yet in another sense, women had far less protection than men. Potentially, every unmarried woman faced the possibility of being sold into a marriage against her will. Although this made her a "wife" rather than a "slave," would forced marriage be any less objectionable than forced labor?

In addition, an obvious loophole is that a girl or woman could be bought as a wife for a male slave, rather than for the slave owner or a son, and this resulted in permanent enslavement to the owner (Exod. 21:4), even when the husband's term of enslavement ended. The woman became a permanent slave to an owner who did not become her husband and who owed her none of the protections due a wife.


The protection against permanent enslavement also did not apply to foreigners (Lev. 25:44-46). Men taken in war were considered plunder and became the perpetual property of their owners. Women and girls captured in war, who were apparently the vast majority of captives (Num. 31:9-11, 32-35; Deut 20:11-14), faced the same situation as female slaves of Hebrew origin (Deut. 21:10-14), including permanent enslavement. Slaves could also be purchased from surrounding nations (Eccl. 2:7), and nothing protected them against perpetual slavery. The other protections afforded Hebrew slaves did apply to foreigners, but this must have been small comfort to those who faced a lifetime of forced labor.

In contrast to slavery in the United States, which generally forbade marriage among slaves, the regulations in Exodus aim to preserve families intact. “If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him” (Exod. 21:3). Yet often, as we have seen, the actual result of the regulations was forced marriage .

Regardless of any protections afforded in the Law, slavery was by no means an agreeable way of life. Slaves were, for whatever duration of their enslavement, property. Whatever the regulations, in practice there was probably little protection against maltreatment, and abuses occurred. As in much of the Bible, God’s word in Exodus did not abolish the existing social and economic order, but instructed God’s people how to live with justice and compassion in their present circumstances. To our eyes, the results do--and should--appear very disquieting.

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another quote
just for fun:

“You shall not boil a young goat in its mother’s milk."
 
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as you @Rob Monster can't stop citing the bible

did you read the bible lately?

Hi Frank -- Good to see you diving into the Bible. If you go on YouTube you will find lots of former Atheists who changed their mind and hear what tipped the scale for them to make a leap of faith with regards to the origin of creation and the meaning of life.

As for what to read, Psalms and Proverbs is mostly just full of wisdom though it has a lot to say about dealing with adversity, e.g Psalm 37 is a winner. However, I would say Luke, Romans, Ephesians, and Galatians are relatively short and worthwhile for someone who is assembling the puzzle but not up for reading go cover to cover.

As for the topic of slavery, I am not sure which is better -- (1) to have homeless people begging for bread while often using mind-altering and addictive drugs, (2) prisons full of people where they are surrounded by weak role models, or (3) lawful indentured servitude for up to 7 years for someone who is out of options.

To be clear, I don't suggest to bring back slavery in any legalized form. However, in reality, if you look at sites that exist on the web for SugarDaddies, of which there are more and more, it is still rampant, only this time it is just prostitution by another name.
 
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Anyway, back to domaining, but thought worth sharing for those who aren't up on their Pagan sun rituals.

This is only the second time Rob has made me sad here on namepros. :xf.cry:

The first is when he did not select my far superior domain name entry in his first contest (being silly here). The second is above where he is referencing the burning man gathering.

I never considered the whole thing may have another agenda(s) other than a bunch of people getting together to have fun and enjoy music...now I have to do a little research and if it turns out to have some occult underpinnings I will have to scratch attending it off of my bucket list.
 
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This is only the second time Rob has made me sad here on namepros. :xf.cry:

The first is when he did not select my far superior domain name entry in his first contest (being silly here). The second is above where he is referencing the burning man gathering.

I never considered the whole thing may have another agenda(s) other than a bunch of people getting together to have fun and enjoy music...now I have to do a little research and if it turns out to have some occult underpinnings I will have to scratch attending it off of my bucket list.

Funny one.

Lots of people go to Burning Man, just like lots of people go to Vegas or strip clubs or whatever for a bit of fun and new perspective. It can be a good thing but it is good to know what you are engaging in, and to have some boundaries in place. I would say that generally since temptation is everywhere anyway.

After all, "all things are lawful but not all things edify" (see 1 Corinthians 10:23 for example). That said, I would have spiritual armor in place and would be prayed up. If it were me, I would choose to be salt and light. After all, "greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world." (1 John 4:4).

I am personally not a big festival guy and my wife is not an RV girl so I don't see me going there anytime soon. Regardless, there are lots of stories on the web about people finding God at Burning Man. Just look it up and you will find many stories like this one:

http://godreports.com/2017/08/evangelist-at-burning-man-employs-unorthodox-approach/

Although it took me way too long to accept it, today, I am quite certain that Satan is real but Jesus Christ is Lord. I am also quite certain that some folks do have to find the former before they can accept the latter. I won't ever condemn them or think less of them. Why? Because their testimonies are often among the most powerful.

In fact, there are some folks here at NamePros who have seen the dark side on a scale that might blow your mind if they told their stories. I wish they would but that is for them to decide.

One of my greatest deliverance experiences was a few years ago when I was flying back from Europe. I was seated next to a young adult woman who had an extreme fear of flying. She was having a massive panic attack and the crew was debating whether to abort take-off and return to the gate.

As I was trying to calm her down, I saw that her hands were covered in occult runes and asked her about them. She said they were for luck. I knew otherwise. I offered to pray over her as the plane was coming to runway. I initially struggled to get the words out but ultimately managed to unleash some curse-breaking prayer.

Afterwards, I looked up and she had tears and said she had peace like a baby as we were on a steep incline lifting up off the runway. True story. We pretty much talked for the next 9 hours. Later on during the flight she let me take a photo of her hands:

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Her life-long fear of flying was conquered. She is now a fearless flyer and that experience is probably part of her own testimony.

So, let your light shine and fear nothing.
 
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