You all decide am I right or is Sedo right (Part 2 fastfood.com)

[barybadrinath]

Sedo ethics part 2 --

Sedo published domain sale of fastfood.com for 250k usd somewhere between 2013-15. Someone made an offer of 250k usd for fastfood and then it was on auction for 7 days and domain was shown sold for 250k usd.
I followed that auction as I was interested in fastfood but 250k was out of my reach that time.
Everywhere on domain forums , dnjournal , namebio it was mentioned that fastfood was sold for 250k usd.

You all know what. That auction was never paid. And sedo and dave evanson did not care to issue a public info on the same. They all lied.
So in 2018 i made an offer of 95k usd for fastfood.com which was immediately accepted ( in just a min of making an offer ). I was about to send money next day ..
But through my meditation and Indian Mantra power I came to know that all this was a trap from sedo .. the fastfood price of 250k was a lie and auction was never paid.
If i am lying about this I challenge to all domainers to ask about it from sedo..
I refused to pay 250k usd and asked sedo to cancel the deal as they did for hormone.com with me.
Sedo refused. They said i have to pay commission of 12-14k usd for fastfood.
I asked Dave evanson when sale has not taken place , why should I pay commission. And why sedo did not bother to issue a public statement mentioning that their previous public release of 250k for fastfood was a lie. They must have cleared the air.
Sedo refused and blocked my account. Even though i joined sedo in 2011.
This kind of ethics sedo has and these hifi brokers have.
Sedo be sure India is not your playground and time has come now to create a transparent and ethical domain platform. I have never been to any domain conference and have no touch with any Indian domainer but i will do whatever I need to do so that sedo does not play it's dirty tricks with anyone else.
I also feel that selling price of kush.com is far greater than 500k but the seller has been given only 500k ..

 

[maksimfa]

 

[barybadrinath]

Baby you know the kind of tricks and defences you are putting on hakan ali's behalf are childish in nature.
Go and raise yourself first.
Here some serious discussion is going on. Santa is not dancing here.

 

[barybadrinath]

I wonder if sedo will actually pursue this. I haven't checked but if they have a local Indian presence it wouldn't be too hard. Would make an easy win for them as well.

You are pursuing that's more than enough.
You can pass on the info to them..

 

[barybadrinath]

Seems you had a pretty good go in domaining with those commission sales etc. and I congratulate you on those...Maybe it just all went to your head

You are wrong. My high paying job of 250k usd per year was taken away from me because of domaining.
My onsite location at Bakersfield california was taken away from me because of domaining.
I lost 225-250 k usd till 2017 because of domaining. No one has come and taught me domaining.
And I never attended all those so called domaining conferences where people will pay for tickets and go to learn domaining.
I have lost 8-9 usd per domain for at least 10000 domains and then i have learnt domaining after burning my family money.

I lost my whole business because i used its money for renewal of my domains .. I have lost 3 -4 days regular sleep every week just in the tension of renewing my domains till last year. I have been labeled as a Gambler from my family because of domaining. I have been attacked by goons just because their owner wanted one domain which I was not ready to give without money. I have lost some of my best domains to hugedomains and buy domains because of no money for renewals .
I am still in loss of 150-180k usd approx in domaining + plus loss of high paying job since 2014 jan ..
My bread and butter is from domains only.
I was about to break even at the start of 2019 which sedo took away through their dirty tricks department...
So please be sure it's not in my head.

 

[barybadrinath]

You are pursuing that's more than enough.
You can pass on the info to them..

Are you thinking buddy that high paying lawyer gives guarantee to win in courts.
You are wrong then.. we will all see

 

[ecomslice]

why do you need Sedo so badly ??? you do have your own landers right ?

and in all fairness, your not thinking straight on many things, its likely time to move to a new chapter and career in life.

 

[barybadrinath]

Atinc you read why I replied what I have replied. You told me that i already knew that 500k usd was a lie from sedo for fastfood so I replied you back , " yes as you came to India and told me it's a lie , that's how i know about it".
When you are free to make an assumption about me, then you have no right to stop me from making an assumption about you.

 

[barybadrinath]

why do you need Sedo so badly ??? you do have your own landers right ?

and in all fairness, your not thinking straight on many things, its likely time to move to a new chapter and career in life.

I will move. And I have moved. I haven't open sedo site since many months.
But i wont let them do this again with someone else.
These people are greedy sharks and cheaters with no ethics.

 

[MapleDots]

Will ask this person also to use proper language else i will give a digital slap to him here and his coming generations will be born as deaf...

With all due respect to atinc and barybadrinath

That made me laugh so hard I almost fell out of my chair.

 

[barybadrinath]

and soon all these threads will be indexed by google...

It seems you are childhood underwear buddy of larry page .

 

[BRANDERX]

im definitely gonna think of this thread next time im having a Big Mac.

no need for personal attacks people.

Be civilized

 

[barybadrinath]

im definitely gonna think of this thread next time im having a Big Mac.

no need for personal attacks people.

Be civilized

I never started it sir...

 

[Nikhil Jain]

It seems you are childhood underwear buddy of larry page .

My friend, with due respect, I would suggest you to calm down a bit. The title of your thread says "You decide......". Then why not understand what everyone here is suggesting and try to analyse and learn from the same, rather than sticking to your own notion ?

I would suggest, it would be a great gesture if you could just calm down and try to understand in what direction the members here are leading you. It is for your own good if you can learn what they are trying to explain you regarding where you have gone wrong. There is no harm in accepting that you have made a mistake to some extent. So just take that learning, close this thread and move on with life. There's a lot more out there to be dealt with and can be repaired. Wish you the best.

 

[barybadrinath]

Recently in December ( second fortnight of Dec ) I completed negotiations for a super premium 4l.com ( for which I already had an end user ) after 3 months.
Amount was finalized at 262k usd .
They gave me contract in writing mentioning about their bank account details.
They emphasized me to arrange money from usa. I called my friend and asked him if he could send 262k usd to their account. I deposited same amount of money in his indian account.
He told me he need 1 day to send 262k usd .
He sent money after a day. Money got credited in that company's account.
You all know what this company also sold that 4l.com to someone else and their broker who was negotiating with me since sep Oct blocked me on WhatsApp.
When I sent official mail asking what the hell is this n how come you can breach your own written contract , their reply was " talk to our legal team "

I want to ask everyone here. Do poor domainers like me only have to follow and abide by your self drafted legal agreement. Where are your ethics .
Is money your only god

 

[barybadrinath]

My friend, with due respect, I would suggest you to calm down a bit. The title of your thread says "You decide......". Then why not understand what everyone here is suggesting and try to analyse and learn from the same, rather than sticking to your own notion ?

I would suggest, it would be a great gesture if you could just calm down and try to understand in what direction the members here are leading you. It is for your own good if you can learn what they are trying to explain you regarding where you have gone wrong. There is no harm in accepting that you have made a mistake to some extent. So just take that learning, close this thread and move on with life. There's a lot more out there to be dealt with and can be repaired. Wish you the best.

Man i will ask the same question from you when you will loose 6 fig usd money.
I have got your point.
What you are right now , i was at one time. But be sure . You won't be spared either by them if ever you are in position to create competition for sedo..
Only sedo and that big company is my enemy and no one else. I have friends in domain industry more than you might be having .. i have got at least 50pm since yesterday mentioning that sedo is wrong.
Recently one of the biggest domainer of usa came to India. Did you meet him..

 

[barybadrinath]

My friend, with due respect, I would suggest you to calm down a bit. The title of your thread says "You decide......". Then why not understand what everyone here is suggesting and try to analyse and learn from the same, rather than sticking to your own notion ?

I would suggest, it would be a great gesture if you could just calm down and try to understand in what direction the members here are leading you. It is for your own good if you can learn what they are trying to explain you regarding where you have gone wrong. There is no harm in accepting that you have made a mistake to some extent. So just take that learning, close this thread and move on with life. There's a lot more out there to be dealt with and can be repaired. Wish you the best.

They are trying to explain to me that if they are earning money then all these legal agreements do not matter.
But when we dream to earn money then all these legal agreement matters.

 

[maksimfa]

Recently in December ( second fortnight of Dec ) I completed negotiations for a super premium 4l.com ( for which I already had an end user ) after 3 months.
Amount was finalized at 262k usd .
They gave me contract in writing mentioning about their bank account details.
They emphasized me to arrange money from usa. I called my friend and asked him if he could send 262k usd to their account. I deposited same amount of money in his indian account.
He told me he need 1 day to send 262k usd .
He sent money after a day. Money got credited in that company's account.
You all know what this company also sold that 4l.com to someone else and their broker who was negotiating with me since sep Oct blocked me on WhatsApp.
When I sent official mail asking what the hell is this n how come you can breach your own written contract , their reply was " talk to our legal team "

I want to ask everyone here. Do poor domainers like me only have to follow and abide by your self drafted legal agreement. Where are your ethics .
Is money your only god

Do you do this often?

Just asking...

I am a financial professional and if you have your friends send money for you regularly... it is clear as day signs of fraud.

The company asked YOU to send money from a US account. (large companies cannot accept international wire transfers, this is a big anti money laundering issue). So you have your friend send the money to them... I assume in his name? From his account?

In the Western world, with all of the financial regulations, that is quite shady stuff. "Talk to legal" is precisely what was to be expected.

Here is how the fraud plays out.

You make deal with company. Your friend sends them money. They send you domain. You have domain. Your US friend files lawsuit claiming fraud because he sent company money and they did not get domain.

 

[barybadrinath]

My friend, with due respect, I would suggest you to calm down a bit. The title of your thread says "You decide......". Then why not understand what everyone here is suggesting and try to analyse and learn from the same, rather than sticking to your own notion ?

I would suggest, it would be a great gesture if you could just calm down and try to understand in what direction the members here are leading you. It is for your own good if you can learn what they are trying to explain you regarding where you have gone wrong. There is no harm in accepting that you have made a mistake to some extent. So just take that learning, close this thread and move on with life. There's a lot more out there to be dealt with and can be repaired. Wish you the best.

You first go and get the answer to this question from sedo and then write here.
Just ask sedo what action did they take on him when owner of hormone.com backed out after long negotiations and after the money was sent..
That time where does all these legally binding agreement flew away.
Get the answer to this question first.
I have seen your reaction as well when they abuse hindu gods so lecture to them as well

 

[carob]

Unsubscribing from this thread.

 

[barybadrinath]

Do you do this often?

Just asking...

I am a financial professional and if you have your friends send money for you regularly... it is clear as day signs of fraud.

The company asked YOU to send money from a US account. (large companies cannot accept international wire transfers, this is a big anti money laundering issue). So you have your friend send the money to them... I assume in his name? From his account?

In the Western world, with all of the financial regulations, that is quite shady stuff. "Talk to legal" is precisely what was to be expected.

Here is how the fraud plays out.

You make deal with company. Your friend sends them money. They send you domain. You have domain. Your US friend files lawsuit claiming fraud because he sent company money and they did not get domain.

I can see what type of financial services you might be offering. That company told me that money can be sent from my friend's usa account as he is already tax payer there .They also told me that if money will be sent from usa account it will also help them to know about the source of money.
He sent legally wire of 262k usd. N without fraud. I challenge you to go and inform about this to usa authorities if anything you feel fraud here.. let the authorities decide then.

 

[barybadrinath]

Do you do this often?

Just asking...

I am a financial professional and if you have your friends send money for you regularly... it is clear as day signs of fraud.

The company asked YOU to send money from a US account. (large companies cannot accept international wire transfers, this is a big anti money laundering issue). So you have your friend send the money to them... I assume in his name? From his account?

In the Western world, with all of the financial regulations, that is quite shady stuff. "Talk to legal" is precisely what was to be expected.

Here is how the fraud plays out.

You make deal with company. Your friend sends them money. They send you domain. You have domain. Your US friend files lawsuit claiming fraud because he sent company money and they did not get domain.

For your kind info . This company only authorised me to ask my friend to send money from his behalf and i gave my friend's details only for domain transfer as well, not mine.
How much easy is it for sedo's and big corporations' sympathetisers to always blame small people.
I am sure you are the breed of guys who supports Nissan the company against that poor fellow mr nissan who owns Nissan.com

 

[maksimfa]

I can see what type of financial services you might be offering. That company told me that money can be sent from my friend's usa account as he is already tax payer there .They also told me that if money will be sent from usa account it will also help them to know about the source of money.
He sent legally wire of 262k usd. N without fraud. I challenge you to go and inform about this to usa authorities if anything you feel fraud here.. let the authorities decide then.

Did I say it was fraud? I said it looks like fraud.

The one thing you have to understand is that the people who you talk to, may easily get shut down by their legal teams... such as in this case perhaps. When the money actually came in from someone else... the compliance department put a stop to it. happens every day.

No doubt you have had success, but it seems like you are also making lots of stupid rookie mistakes... and I think that is because you are operating in a different part of the world. It is what it is... much like why I don't do business in Asia... because I am not Asian and know I am 100% out of my element.

I would suggest you partner with a westener and I am certain more of your deals will close.

 

[maksimfa]

For your kind info . This company only authorised me to ask my friend to send money from his behalf and i gave my friend's details only for domain transfer as well, not mine.
How much easy is it for sedo's and big corporations' sympathetisers to always blame small people.
I am sure you are the breed of guys who supports Nissan the company against that poor fellow mr nissan who owns Nissan.com

So everyone who does not agree with you is bad and automatically a big business person?

Can we skip ahead and just go ahead and call us Hitler lovers and Nazis?

 

[barybadrinath]

Do you do this often?

Just asking...

I am a financial professional and if you have your friends send money for you regularly... it is clear as day signs of fraud.

The company asked YOU to send money from a US account. (large companies cannot accept international wire transfers, this is a big anti money laundering issue). So you have your friend send the money to them... I assume in his name? From his account?

In the Western world, with all of the financial regulations, that is quite shady stuff. "Talk to legal" is precisely what was to be expected.

Here is how the fraud plays out.

You make deal with company. Your friend sends them money. They send you domain. You have domain. Your US friend files lawsuit claiming fraud because he sent company money and they did not get domain.

Talk to legal is precisely the arguement of unethical company who break their own contract .they thinks how a person from india will come and will bear high cost of legal expenses in usa

 

[barybadrinath]

Did I say it was fraud? I said it looks like fraud.

The one thing you have to understand is that the people who you talk to, may easily get shut down by their legal teams... such as in this case perhaps. When the money actually came in from someone else... the compliance department put a stop to it. happens every day.

No doubt you have had success, but it seems like you are also making lots of stupid rookie mistakes... and I think that is because you are operating in a different part of the world. It is what it is... much like why I don't do business in Asia... because I am not Asian and know I am 100% out of my element.

I would suggest you partner with a westener and I am certain more of your deals will close.

If you don't do business with asians I have no problem . Already most of fortune 500 are doing with asians.
And yes my friend from usa is a millionaire who pays tax and all regularly.
Why dont you report this to usa authorities .let them decide who is thief and who is not