Got a "F*ck You" response from a domainer

[MapleDots]

I made a number of inquiries on domain names lately and am still shocked how many domainers do not respond to an inquiry. Granted I did not open with a price, I always ask what are you looking to get for the domain. I end by saying I am very interested and please do not ignore my inquiry.

In the last month I have sent 6 inquiries and received only two responses and one response ended in a sale. So from 6 domains one was what I would call a great transaction and the other one at least an attempt for a sale.

That said, I have a tendency to send the inquiry at least twice and this month I send the following to 4 of my inquiries. that failed to respond.

Hello. I made several attempts to start dialogue to purchase domain.com and have received no response from you. I stated both times that I was very interested in the domain and would appreciate either a call or email back. At this point I will terminate any negotiation on this domain and wish you well in your endeavors. That said, I was very interested in your domain and it is your loss not to have responded. As a domainer myself I feel this is very poor business management on your behalf.

Got one response back from a domainer

Was two words

Guess what they were?

"F*ck You"

Wow.... just wow

 

[MapleDots]

Guys and gals

Remember it was not until my 3rd contact that I made the statement. I merely mentioned that as a domainer myself I find the fact that he did not respond as poor business management.

In all honesty.... it was !!!!

 

[DomainGist]

What type of response were you expecting with that second email? I can understand how you might feel, but what's really the purpose of following up in that way. You don't know the owners situation or plans and just as @DomainGist stated, how do you know they're even a domainer. Did they have sales landers or did you do a whois lookup to get their contact info? They may have no intentions on selling and therefore are less likely to respond. To be honest, if I received a follow up email like that from someone it would tick me off as well. Don't waste your effort, move on, and find a different domain to try and purchase.

I know somebody with a portfolio of about 8000 generic keyword domains.

He fields about 100 enquiries on a slow week from his landers... even more on a busy week. There are domainers with many more domains than him.

Inevitable that he's going to be cherry picking the ones which he thinks are the most promising for the swift responses.... not everybody is going to get a response to an enquiry. And I suspect this is why the big guys like Mike M find themselves switching all their domains to BIN for a period....

... I bet when they switch to BIN to give themselves a breather, they then go back over old enquiries to follow up on the ones they skipped.

 

[platey]

I made a number of inquiries on domain names lately and am still shocked how many domainers do not respond to an inquiry. Granted I did not open with a price, I always ask what are you looking to get for the domain. I end by saying I am very interested and please do not ignore my inquiry.

In the last month I have sent 6 inquiries and received only two responses and one response ended in a sale. So from 6 domains one was what I would call a great transaction and the other one at least an attempt for a sale.

That said, I have a tendency to send the inquiry at least twice and this month I send the following to 4 of my inquiries. that failed to respond.

Hello. I made several attempts to start dialogue to purchase domain.com and have received no response from you. I stated both times that I was very interested in the domain and would appreciate either a call or email back. At this point I will terminate any negotiation on this domain and wish you well in your endeavors. That said, I was very interested in your domain and it is your loss not to have responded. As a domainer myself I feel this is very poor business management on your behalf.

Got one response back from a domainer

Was two words

Guess what they were?

"F*ck You"

Wow.... just wow

You are not sending these enquiries to me tho lol that's the problem haha

 

[MapleDots]

You are not sending these enquiries to me tho lol that's the problem haha

Absolutely the best response, I wish I could give you 10 likes

 

[MapleDots]

I know somebody with a portfolio of about 8000 generic keyword domains.

All the more reason to respond.... one must move some of those domains before renewal time.

 

[TestCase]

I would have said the same to a car salesman and complained to his manager had he not responded to two inquiries to purchase. What would the manager have said to the employee.

What I said was accurate.... it is poor business management to ignore two inquires from the same person. That shows the person is interested, why not just engage?

So am I to understand that you are the ultimate judge as to what is or is not "poor business management"???

There are many reasons someone might not reply. Maybe the person recently experienced a personal tragedy. Maybe they were on an extended holiday. Maybe they blah, blah, blah...

Whatever the reason, it's not someone else's right to pass judgment on them or the way they operate. Notice in my initial reply I did not say you and you're email demonstrated a poor understanding of business communication practices. I said "personally I..."

I suggest you pick up a copy of "How to win friends and influence people" by Dale Carnegie. It has been around for decades but the general ideas in it are still relevant today.

 

[DomainGist]

All the more reason to respond.... one must move some of those domains before renewal time.

This domainer seldom drops domains and easily covers his renewal costs each years, he holds mainly 'evergreen' keyword domains which will all find a buyer one day. Generic terms = no rush.

 

[MapleDots]

Had you sent this email to me I wouldn't have even given you the courtesy of a "thanks, but no thanks" response.

And I would have responded back with an offer to start dialogue saying I'm sorry we got off on the wrong foot but would you still be interested.

I would have understood your response and the fact that it was polite would still have given me some hope of a deal.

 

[DomainGist]

And I would have responded back with an offer to start dialogue saying I'm sorry we got off on the wrong foot but would you still be interested.

I would have understood your response and the fact that it was polite would still have given me some hope of a deal.

He said he wouldn't have responded at all, so there would have been no message for you to respond to.

 

[MapleDots]

ps. There is a hint of irony about your post here, because the other day you wrote a thread about being suspicious of a potential buyer because they may be a "domainer" who has an end user lined up.

Yes, but I was polite and I did respond to each question the client asked. I also voiced my concern and was clear about my reservations.

By a long shot I did not say Fuck you

 

[DomainGist]

On a serious note though..... landing page enquiries are probably the worst way to find domains at reseller prices.

Cheeky offers on sedo marketplace may work if you make enough of them, but landing pages are for end users.

 

[MapleDots]

He said he wouldn't have responded at all, so there would have been no message for you to respond to.

Sorry misread that, but had he responded politely with not interested I would have come back with an offer. Anything would have been more professional than f u.

 

[MapleDots]

Read all my posts guys...

At no point was I talking about resellers prices, I only divulged I was a domainer at the 3rd inquiry.

 

[DomainGist]

Sorry misread that, but had he responded politely with not interested I would have come back with an offer. Anything would have been more professional than f u.

If somebody says F U... Just reply....

"Thank you for your response and good luck with this domain"

And leave it at that. Millions more domains and many more domainers.

Not worth burning bridges over, and you can take the moral high ground.

 

[Silentptnr]

At least they didn't call you a sh*thole.

 

[platey]

It is definitely frustrating, but you can post the thread for 48 hours.... the close + delete it, and then trawl through the responses in your own time and reply to any which are of interest.

I had about 200 messages in 24 hours to a thread asking for pronounceable 5 L's.... and got an annoyingly large number of people sending messages which started with "I know these are 6 letter domains, but....", if I wanted 6 letter I would have asked for them!

The most annoying thing is the people who follow up with "so do you want it", before you've even reached their message, don't think people realise just how many responses these threads get.

I've got 20 x 5L pronounceable dot coms sitting gathering dust lol

 

[MapleDots]

Not worth burning bridges over, and you can take the moral high ground.

Oh trust me, I took the moral high ground because I did not respond back and I did him the courtesy by not naming the domain here.

I'm simply shaking my head for the lack of a professional response.

 

[DomainGist]

I've got 20 x 5L pronounceable dot coms sitting gathering dust lol

Not buying right now, spent too much in the past couple of weeks

 

[platey]

At least they didn't call you a sh*thole.

I've pre registered something similar lol

 

[DN_Hunter]

I think FU is a harsh response. But the wording in your follow up email rubs me the wrong way. I read your example emails in your original post, and never saw you actually make an initial offer -- but if you did I would expect that to get a polite "thanks, but no thanks" reply.

Also, you have stated that you are serious buyer because you acquired a domain from a responsive domainer. But how in the world would the owner know you're a serious buyer? Did you state that in your follow up emails? If you stated something like I recently purchased xxxxxxx.com for $x,xxx, the owner might know you are a serious buyer and then reply ASAP.

As stated above -- put yourself in their shoes. Your first email they think oh great, another domainer looking for "reseller" prices, not "End User" prices. And they get a nice follow up email that goes on to ridicule and lecture them (it's just how I read it).

 

[platey]

Not buying right now, spent too much in the past couple of weeks

No worries

 

[MapleDots]

I've pre registered something similar lol

Problem with that domain is namepros filters out some letters

I can never link to pigeonshitnames.com

 

[Silentptnr]

Problem with that domain is namepros filters out some letters

I can never link to pigeonsh*tnames.com

You dislike my comment then proceed to make fun....makes no sense!

 

[GeorgeK]

Both times I reiterated I was seriously interested in acquiring the domain.

I think I wasn't clear enough in my first post. Instead of saying that you're "seriously interested", show that you're seriously interested, i.e. demonstrate it in some manner (e.g. making a serious offer).

There are multiple types of domain owners. You seem to be targeting "Type 1":

Type 1: Excited to even receive a domain name inquiry; responds to all inquiries; desperate to sell.

But, there are a large number of other types of owners, e.g. "Type 2"

Type 2: Inundated with many domain name inquiries; annoyed at lowballers, spammers, etc.; filters inquiries accordingly

e.g. consider Webmagic, who owns elite domain names like Ace.com, etc. You have to pay them a non-refundable $20 just to contact them about a domain name;

https://www.webmagic.com/domains/domain-advertising-contact-guidelines/
https://www.webmagic.com/domains/

Some other people do the same thing.

While your approach might be successful with "Type 1", it's not going to work for "Type 2".

 

[MapleDots]

As stated above -- put yourself in their shoes. Your first email they think oh great, another domainer looking for "reseller" prices, not "End User" prices. And they get a nice follow up email that goes on to ridicule and lecture them (it's just how I read it).

I did not say I was a domainer and a point that we as domainers must understand is that the general public is not educated enough about domains to know how to respond. In your scenario he would have assumed a domainer because of how it was worded. Real world though, the end user is just trying to make contact and ignoring them can mean the loss of a sale. Hell a lot of end users don't even know about whois and are just following the form to inquire about a purchase. Imagine going to a store with no prices, the first thing a client would ask is WHAT IS THE PRICE.

Some domainers forget they are dealing with the public and in my case I did not disclose domainer until the 3rd contact.