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It seems .PRO is slowly coming out of the cage with cheaper reg prices than they were a year ago and major registrars like netsol taking notice of the extension and promoting it. B-)

Here are some that I picked up in last couple of days:

Alexandria.pro

Anchorage.pro

Arlington.pro

Belfast.pro

Birmingham.pro

Budapest.pro

Durham.pro

Fairfax.pro

Italian.pro

Lisbon.pro

Fire away with your regs after the relaunch on September 8th, 2008.
 
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Just see no_url_shorteners uses BITLY.PRO as their new pro service, way to go the .pro!!
 
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I am thinking of picking up a couple .pro domains for my businesses. I see a lot of .pro regs are at encirca. Is this the best place to reg .pros? Other options? I haven't heard anything about this registrar.
 
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Yes, Encirca is the best place to register .pro. I write a quarterly report on the main .pro registrars and they usually come out on top.
 
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Yes, Encirca is the best place to register .pro. I write a quarterly report on the main .pro registrars and they usually come out on top.

Good to know. I appreciate the quick reply!
 
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I've seen quite a bit of traffic jump in my parked .pros already for February, anyone else?
 
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Getting a few more hits each month and sometimes a few extra clicks, I thought this was probally domainers and developers exploring the options rather than direct searching members of the public.

Great news about bitly.pro tho it is a pity due to the sites nature it will be used less by the public and more by site admins and bloggers, still great pr for .pro.
 
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Per the terms of the 1,2, and 3 character .pro release, you send a 15 page business plan, a check for $250, and if it impresses RegistryPro you either get the domain or get entered into an auction for the domain if there is more than 1 suitable application.

If your application doesn't succeed you get $125 refunded from your $250 application fee. You get 6 months to develop the site and the domain is locked down and can't be transferred during an agreed marketing period. If you want to sell the site, you need RegistryPro's approval to transfer ownership and the new owner has to sign up to a separate marketing or lock in agreement. You cannot sell just the domain. How many .pros sold in the last 5 years were for the website and not the domain?

Applications for 1 letter .pros are open to 31 March 2010 and applications for 2 and 3 letter .pros are open to 30 April 2010. Any domains not allocated will be auctioned, any domains not sold at auction will be awarded on a first come first served basis.

My initial reaction is that the terms are onerous, the selection of suitable applications lacks transparency, the application period is too short, and the single USD check payment method makes it difficult for non-US professionals and businesses to apply.

If you are going to write a 15 page business plan, maybe have to bid against somebody else, develop a website, spend money marketing it, do you then want to be beholden to RegistryPro on who you can sell it to, when you can sell it, and how you can sell it? Then get the buyer of the website, not the domain, to sign up to the same terms?

The selection of suitable business plans appears to be solely at the discretion of RegistryPro. If there are two business plans, one is excellent and the other is OK, RegistryPro have a financial incentive to conclude both commitments are equal, and send the domain to auction because they will make more money that way. Ideally, a third party should be assessing applications to ensure the best application gets picked, not RegistryPro's preferred applicant, or whoever is likely to bid the most at auction. Applications and business plans should be posted online for greater transparency, as should any decisions reached when there are multiple applications for the same .pro.

RegistryPro do not mention anything about languages for applications. The payment of the processing fee should be payable in any currency and by multiple payment methods, not just a USD check because that means you have to have a USD bank account and send something in the post that RegistryPro may never acknowledge receiving. That undermines the status of .pro as a gTLD.

The application window is too short. It would make more sense to leave all 1,2, and 3 character .pros in a database and let businesses and individuals submit business plans at any time. That way once an application of a suitable standard is received the domain would be allocated. If a developer or company was considering a project, they could look through a library of available short .pros and apply accordingly.

With restrictions in place, any auctions held will be hugely disappointing in terms of prices and that could end up damaging the .pro brand. RegistryPro should retain .pros not allocated and auction them in small blocks after removing restrictions. That way they could do a deal with Sedo or somebody like that and generate far more interest in the extension.

My concern is that there is still a chasm between where .pro actually is and where RegistryPro think it is. In the press release RegistryPro say they expect a "flood of interest in .pro" but with 300 unrestricted extensions out there, I doubt it will be more than a trickle and that will be people who don't understand how onerous the terms are.

Anybody wanting to develop a .pro would be better off buying a .pro on the aftermarket, you wouldn't have to write a 15 page business plan, you wouldn't end up bidding against other applicants, you could sell the domain and not just the website, the .pro wouldn't be locked down by RegistryPro, and whoever you sold it to wouldn't have to sign up to a similar strait jacket arrangement.

.pro is underdeveloped because of RegistryPro's continual meddling in who can register, lack of take up by registrars, and poor marketing. This method of releasing 1,2, and 3 character .pros is just an extension of what hasn't worked before. RegistryPro should be removing residual restrictions and signing up registrars. Trying to engineer the development of 1,2 and 3 character .pros with yet more restrictions and lock-ins is a waste of time.
 
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Andrew, well said.

The latest move by registrypro is stupid and ill-informed, to say the least.

LET THE MARKET DECIDE what happens to the names. The more control and meddling there is, the less chances that people will come to .pro.

Poor marketing, management and registry focusing on HOW businesses should use .pro has really hurt the extension than anything else.
 
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Not to mention Matt Buckland would sure have a hellava lot of reading to do.

Maybe not, i think your just supposed to send an RFP with a dollar amount in it?

This RFP is merely an invitation for applications/bids, and nothing contained in this RFP should be taken as an offer or in any way creating a binding contract.

At the conclusion of negotiations, if held, a best and final offer may be requested of all bidders with quotes that, in the sole judgment of RegistryPro, are worthy of final consideration. All representations by bidders must be reduced to writing and included in their final quote to be considered.
 
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I doubt all 1/2/3 character .pro will get bids in an RFP process, maybe not even all LL.pro. After all it's over 40k combinations for c/cc/ccc - over 18k for just all letter combinations.

The best ones will probably receive multiple RFPs, wonder if they'd have enough time to even read them based on their timelines.

Guess we'll need to hold our peace and wait for the left over availables to hit the auction block, seems the best way of getting a few without wasting time and paying exorbitant amounts.
 
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Yes, Encirca is the best place to register .pro. I write a quarterly report on the main .pro registrars and they usually come out on top.

Hello,

After registring 30+ .pro with encirca, it has been so painfull to deal with encirca support ( transfert, invoices, whois data changes...) i would not recommand encira at all.
Their is many alternative.
 
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Hello,

After registring 30+ .pro with encirca, it has been so painfull to deal with encirca support ( transfert, invoices, whois data changes...) i would not recommand encira at all.
Their is many alternative.

They're not that bad. I mean they usually respond to online chat or phone within hours or a business day, and are fast about urgent matters. How much are you doing and what's so urgent that that becomes a problem? I've been a .PRO registrant of many names for years, and the issues are rare. Mostly they just sit there in the registry.

EnCirca has been the cheapest for me here in the U.S. Name a cheaper better alternative.
 
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I also have only good things to say about Encirca. Over the years I have been at more than 10 registrars, and since I opened an acount there 3 years ago I have never had a problem with Encirca. I have had many problems, some minor and some major, at most of the other registrars (especially Hostway - Steer Clear of Hostway!). Indeed, whenever I have a question or request at Encirca, I have always received a helpful response within hours or a day. I have also received good support from NetworkSolutions, where I started more than 10 years ago, but they are now too expensive, so when set to renew I usually send them to Encirca.
 
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I did a bulk update of ns at encirca, didn't get all the domains.

Raised a support ticket, was resolved in a few hours.

Can't really complain.
 
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I doubt all 1/2/3 character .pro will get bids in an RFP process, maybe not even all LL.pro. After all it's over 40k combinations for c/cc/ccc - over 18k for just all letter combinations.

RegistryPro will get 300-400 applications if they are lucky. Firstly, there is no particular inherent value in an LLL.pro or LL.pro, the value of .pro is driven by keyword combination brandability and LLL.pro and LL.pro are not desirable unless it happens to be a pronounceable commercially valuable keyword. Most random LLL.infos sell for $100-$300 and there is a group of enthusiasts who buy them and 5m .infos registered. .pro has a far less developed aftermarket so LLL.pros would presumably be worth $50-$100 if you could sell them which you can't through the RFP process so not sure who would bother with a 15 page business plan, a $250 fee, and a website they can only sell with RegistryPro's permission. That would be insane.

The best way for people on this thread to acquire .pros is to wait for the auctions because if Snapnames and Vincent Laio's everything must go NP thread is anything to go by, decent .pros will be going for a couple of hundred dollars and with the auctioned domains, there is no lock in. The people who submit business plans for the obvious 10-20 pronounceable commercial LLL.pro's will end up competing against a small number of people who are bought into the process enough to write a 15 page business plan and pay $250 for something they can't sell, that doesn't bode well for getting a good deal.

If these were 1,2, or 3 letter .coms I would be the first in line with my business plan. However, I hold 250 .pros, maybe 100 of which are of the same calibre as the top 20 pronounceable commercial LLL.pros up for grabs and I just about cover my costs and that's with the law of averages on my side and the ability to sell standalone domains. Anybody beavering away on their business plan to maybe get a .pro from $250 to the sky's the limit that they must develop into a website in 6 months but can't sell without RegistryPro's permission is certifiable. I pride myself on my willingness to pursue one wild goose chase after another without any loss of enthusiasm but even I can see that won't work out.
 
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.pro proposals

so its your understanding that the 250 just covers the ability to submit a proposal. I take it you are expected to submit a bid for the domain your are proposing on in hopes that your proposals beats anyone competing for that same domain.

Also, if I'm hearing you correctly. You need .pro approval in order to resell that domain?
 
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Pro Restrictions: It looks to me that the pro restrictions have been virtually lifted ... just short of making a formal announcement, I think that they have pretty much been trying to get that point across for some time and also begging us to "Please Buy Pro Domains."

I haven't been keeping up with the thread so I apologize if this is old news. Note that I highlighted self-certify only because EnCirca did.

The following is from EnCirca's bulk-register page ... Note that the tone immediately changes after the obligatory first line.

.Pro now supports All Professionals from All countries.

The .Pro domain is a restricted domain name, available to professionals who self-certify that they meet the eligibility requirements of their profession. There are no restrictions on the types of names a business or professional may register: including trademarks, industry keywords, search engine terms, company names, or marketing slogans. There is no limit to how many dot-pro domain names an individual or company can register.

Qualified businesses and licensed professionals may register company names, trademarks, industry keywords, search engine terms and personal names on a first-come, first-served basis. Names are available for use immediately upon registration.


But if you are STILL worried, go to your local county seat and register yourself as a professional domainer ... "Bob's Domains." Give them $25 and they'll mail your official license in short order. Now you have a professional license.

:imho:

 
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If anybody on this thread bought Touch.pro from me on Sedo, please can you provide them with your Encirca CUST-XXXXX reference number or Encirca email address so I can transfer the domain. I asked Sedo for this information 6 days ago and they haven't responded.
 
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Just came across this on sedo. Interior.Pro is for sale currently 500 with 30 min to go.

Auction Detail - Sedo.co.uk

This is not my domain but thought others may be interested.
 
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Not bad, too bad he had to pay Sedo $125 in selling fee's.
 
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The Sedo commission on Interior.pro would be $150 or 30% commission on a $500 sale. I completed the sale of Touch.pro on Sedo today at $1,500. It was bought by a US company called Touch Screens Inc, they are forwarding it to TouchWindow.com.
 
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