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Buying brandable domain names is a great way to make money in the domain industry. Brandable names are often sold to startups because they are, you guessed it, brandable. In other words, they work well as brand names for companies to use and build brands on. Since brandable domains often sell for between $2,000 and $5,000 to end users, they are great names to consider investing in. Here are some tips to help you find brandable domain names.


Buy Names With End Users in Mind

It's important to buy brandable domain names that end users would want to use. In order to better understand the names that end users value the most, domain investor should do outbound sales with some of their names. A lot can be learned from the interest (or lack thereof) that end-users show for your domains.

End users are especially important for brandable domains, because the appeal of a name to end users will determine whether that domain name is ever turned into a brand, and thus, whether it truly qualifies as a brandable.


Domain Age Matters (Usually)

An older domain with a history usually has more value than a brand-new hand-registered domain name. Why does age matter? In general, older domains perform better in terms of SEO, which is a factor that your potential buyer may consider while they research the perfect domain name to purchase.


Does this Mean that Hand-Registered Names are Worthless?

No. Every good domain name has been registered at one point in time. If you find a good enough domain, its age won’t matter. If you are willing and able to hold on to the domains you hand register for a while, they will likely increase in value over time as other good alternatives become more scarce and are built into brands. For this reason, good domains are becoming more difficult to find and hand register. With that in mind, a newer investor might try to find a quality name on the aftermarket, rather than trying to find value in a domain that has never been registered.


Where Can I Buy Domains?

There are many ways to buy a domain name besides hand registering. You can use domain drop catching services to purchase domains, which have expired and are in the process of "dropping" from registrars, within a split second of their availability. You can also visit auction sites to bid on domain names, or go to the NamePros Marketplace to purchase domains from other domainers. You can even email the owners of domains that you like and try to purchase directly from them.


What Makes a Name Brandable?

Remember, keep the end-user in mind. For brandable domains, you could begin by looking for two-word domains that have meaning and are easy to say and spell. Think of common phrases, words that go together, and cute and short names. You want to find domains that flow well and pass the radio test: they sound good, are memorable, and can be spelled without error when heard on the radio.

For example, “NamePros” is a brandable domain name because it contains two words that make sense together, it's easy to spell, and it's memorable. NamePros also sounds good, and it has meaning - NamePros is a site for professional domainers: Name Professionals.

If a name sounds good, has a meaning that would appeal to end users, and is short and easy to spell, then chances are good that it will make a great brandable name.


Estibot Helps Estimate a Domain’s Value

Estibot is a domain name appraisal tool that picks up multiple metrics on domain names, including traffic, type-in searches, domain age, etc. This data should not be your deciding factor when buying a name, but all of these metrics can influence a domain’s value, because buyers often value them when purchasing domains. If your buyer thinks that the appraisal matters, then it matters - period.


Apply this knowledge to your domain investing, and you can begin to register and sell brandable domain names.
 
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Estibot Helps Estimate a Domain’s Value

First off, thank you for sharing Andrew.

I would caution members about relying on Estibot for short brandable domains. Estibot's appraisals rely heavily on search engine stats such as Cost Per Clicks and Monthly Search Volume. While this might help show which keywords pair well, it does not help 5L and 6L Brandables. Estibot appraisals has helped me more with Geo Domains when search engine stats are more targeted to the buyer.

When I started using estibot for short brandable domains, I passed on many good brandables because of the low appraisals and registered many bad brandables because of the high appraisals. The metric of good and bad is based on brandable marketplace acceptance percentages.
 
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i really would like to know how do you reach enduser for a outbound sale..

Hardwork and Creativity...

5/6L - Brandable Marketplaces

KeyWord - email relevant domains found via NameDroppers.com

For example:

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If you believe you have the superior name, then look up the WHOIS, and send emails.

Research the WHOIS owner. If you see they own 500 domains via WHOIS.DomainTools.com, you might want to treat them more like a domainer, or somebody with knowledge of the industry. If they only own a few domains, it might be a sign they don't know the domain industry and the benefits of a brandable domain. A lot of times endusers reg domains with three words because they weren't able to register the two words they wanted at the time or registration. With this logic, MyAnalyzerCloud.com is probably the enduser for AnalyzerCloud.com

Don't be that guy that keeps spamming me with something like MyMikes.info or MikesHouse.info because I own Mikes.info. You emails will get spammed if you do this enough. Email the only .info/.net/.org if you have the .com. Lastly, like everything else in domaining, be mindful of trademarks.
 
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Why don't you tell us how you really feel?

As mentioned earlier there is plenty of data that shows brandable sales correlating with estibot value.


Ex. I have several experiences. I will share one here.

I hand-registered baagu.com . Estibot value at that time is zero. I listed at Sedo, Afternic and Godaddy for $1000 (main reason - hand registration).

After sometime, I changed it to $2000 as I thought purchase price is irrelevant in determining the sale price. That is my base for 5-letter pronounceable .coms.


Bridgestone bought it through SEDO.


1. Real end users never care about domain age and other nonsense spread among domainers.

2. Except in rare cases, it is impossible for Estibot like tools unless it has significant traffic.

Now, they may be household names...otherwise, how can you valuate names like sony.com, nike.com, canon.com, hoda.com etc...


For me, Brandables are the most under-appreciated names due to common parameters spread in the world of domainers. Ex. traffic, ad cost, domain age...


Think in the angle of end users who want to start a business on a brandable name.

1. pronounceable

2. easy to remember

3. may think about availability of social media handles (may be)


Ex. I received up to $2000 inquiries on Digitalytics.com.....I did not even consider. For me, each name is an asset. I have patience to wait....Owners of brandable names need a lot of patience.
 
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Thanks for the article Andrew :)


One question:

You mention brandable names are often sold to new startups, and suggest reaching out to potential end users. But how does one find and contact new startups to reach out to them when they are in the process of establishing the business, and so have no online presence until they've bought a domain name (catch-22)?

Thanks

If your name targets a particular niche then hitting up sites, publications or trade shows specific to that niche are a good place to start.

Also, you can try to find an established business online that has a 2nd tier domain name and make your pitch to them.
 
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Brandables are sometimes tougher to figure out. If you’re not a linguist, then I think it takes a keen eye to determine how much a brandable could be worth because as many said, ‘Estibot’ is not the greatest valuation tool for Brandables.
I am studying the top sales for each week and each year to develop this ‘keen eye’. For the week of Feb 8th - Feb 14th, there were a number of brandable sales. I looked at the lengths, types of domain, search volumes, CPCs, age, brandability and the venues where they were sold. If you’d like to see the actual numbers, I created a spreadsheet that you can find on my website here. I studied all of the top sales and learned from all, but these are some of the points I took home from the brandable sales.
  1. Brandable Names CAN sell for top dollar even if they are without age, high search volumes or high CPCs (MyPingo.com, IXCapital.com, PepCart.com).
  2. Generic-keyword brandable names may sell higher because of their age (CustomFit.com was the highest selling brandable name that week)
  3. Note that none of the top sales were made by any of the brandable specific marketplaces. I am just studying the data, this fact does not mean that you should not list on any of these marketplaces.
  4. Great one-word brandable names are short and catchy (Bluo, Menz).
  5. Great two-word generic brandable names present the keywords in the right order. CustomFit not FitCustom; PepCart not CartPep; MyPingo not PingoMy.
  6. It’s tough to figure out what the Estibot values were for these before these were sold because Estibot’s algorithm seems to update values as sales are made.
P.S. If you are a more experience investor, some or all of these points may be already known to you. I am sharing for the benefit of myself and others who are new, and for guidance.
 
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I agree that Estibot advise will do more harm than use. Estibot puts lots of value on gross non-brandable typos.

Age and SEO thing is arguable as well.
 
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You guys bring up some good points, probably with 5L and 6L and pure brandables Estibot values play less of a factor and maybe aren't a factor. The data I looked at is what you can find from a quick google search for brandable sales.
 
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I tried Estibot for valuation but you are right it's kinda wonky. can you recommend for me and everyone else reading this then which is a better option?

Study, study study. NamePros has it all...

If you're new to brandables and want to dabble in 5L and 6L domains, keep note of what sells on NamePros and what sells of the expireds. The best teacher IMO is going through 5L and 6L brandables on ExpiredDomains.net everyday. Do a mock experiment before you waste money.

Make a list of domains you think are brandable, and at the end each day/week/month, do a bulk WHOIS on the domains you saw value in. You'll find patterns of what other people are registering based off words, look, sound, drops, year first regged, SV, prior history, suffixes, prefixes, etc. Most good 5L/6L expired domains are regged within 1 day of being dropped. When you get good, you'll find 50% of the domains you saw value in are registered in the first day. This is a sign you're starting to understand.

I've also looked at quite a bit of data of different brandables that have sold in the past and there is a correlation between brandable sales and Estibot value.

Are you referring to 5L and 6L brandables or just keyword brandables?

If anybody has an active estibot account, run a bulk search on 5L / 6L BrandBucket domains that sold. The 5L domain I sold on BB was 50X estibots appraisal. I'm sure you'll find a similar if not bigger difference between the price valued by Estibot and the actual price of the sale.
 
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Thanks for the article Andrew :)


One question:

You mention brandable names are often sold to new startups, and suggest reaching out to potential end users. But how does one find and contact new startups to reach out to them when they are in the process of establishing the business, and so have no online presence until they've bought a domain name (catch-22)?

Thanks
 
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I agree that Estibot advise will do more harm than use. Estibot puts lots of value on gross non-brandable typos.

Age and SEO thing is arguable as well.
Yes, I was going to ask about this. It would seem that perhaps a new startup is not interested in a name that has been passed around and around for 15 years. That's fine for a keyword domain perhaps, but I don't see that as being particularly attractive to a new startup.

Also, as far as SEO potential and ranking, again, without it being a keyword-rich domain, I am confused as to how that helps. For instance, if someone buys BlueBird.com they might rank for blue bird. Does this matter to a company that is selling accounting software?

I was interested in you mentioning reaching out to end users for brand names, as this is something I have wondered about, as in, is it possible? I get reaching out to an end user with a GEO or keyword domain, but how does one do that for a name like BlueBird.com or TravCo.com. The usual process of researching and reaching out to end users seems like it wouldn't work here. Obviously if you went to their website and found their contact information, they would already have their brand name. Buying BlueBird.com will not help them funnel more traffic... is there a way to find out startups in certain industries that are looking for names? That part confuses me so appreciate any insight into this.
 
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I would agree on all your points except the appraisal service Estibot which is worthless and crappy. I never recommend any one to use this for any appraisal. Waste of time, energy and money.
 
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How can estibot or any other tool know the value of a brandable domain?
that is simply impossible

But that doesn 't make estibot a bad tool at all

You need to learn to use tools
In the way the they are made
And try to understand to work according to their own inner
logic in order to make the most of it
 
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First off, thank you for sharing Andrew.

I would caution members about relying on Estibot for short brandable domains. Estibot's appraisals rely heavily on search engine stats such as Cost Per Clicks and Monthly Search Volume. While this might help show which keywords pair well, it does not help 5L and 6L Brandables. Estibot appraisals has helped me more with Geo Domains when search engine stats are more targeted to the buyer.

When I started using estibot for short brandable domains, I passed on many good brandables because of the low appraisals and registered many bad brandables because of the high appraisals. The metric of good and bad is based on brandable marketplace acceptance percentages.


Preach Jesus!!
 
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How would Estibot know the value of Brandable, excluding kw+kw?
Made-up brandables don't get many search results and they are not searched a lot for.
Estibot would have valued all of them at zero, as domainindex does, if not for rule in its algorithm that allocates % of value of the kw.com to kwtypo.com or kw+L.com, kw+LL.com
As a result, estibot can put a high value at really bad typo that can lead an unexperienced buyer to waste money on those.
 
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Study, study study. NamePros has it all...

If you're new to brandables and want to dabble in 5L and 6L domains, keep note of what sells on NamePros and what sells of the expireds. The best teacher IMO is going through 5L and 6L brandables on ExpiredDomains.net everyday. Do a mock experiment before you waste money.

Make a list of domains you think are brandable, and at the end each day/week/month, do a bulk WHOIS on the domains you saw value in. You'll find patterns of what other people are registering based off words, look, sound, drops, year first regged, SV, prior history, suffixes, prefixes, etc. Most good 5L/6L expired domains are regged within 1 day of being dropped. When you get good, you'll find 50% of the domains you saw value in are registered in the first day. This is a sign you're starting to understand.



Are you referring to 5L and 6L brandables or just keyword brandables?

If anybody has an active estibot account, run a bulk search on 5L / 6L BrandBucket domains that sold. The 5L domain I sold on BB was 50X estibots appraisal. I'm sure you'll find a similar if not bigger difference between the price valued by Estibot and the actual price of the sale.


you know? that's exactly what I was looking for that info. see recently I registered a domain that I later found out was dropped back in 2010. I'm like what the heck? then I realized it wasn't so great. if it was someone woulda kept it or snatched it up at drop.

who.is doesn't really tell you if a domain was registered before. just that it's available. is there a whois service that gives you that info?
 
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If your name targets a particular niche then hitting up sites, publications or trade shows specific to that niche are a good place to start.
"Sites" are not new startups, and trade shows are surely not useful (I'm asking not contradicting :) )
Many companies at trade shows are showing their trade, and already have a website/domain name. even if they didn't, the chance of having a domain name suitable is low IMO.

Plus, travelling and physically networking to sell domain names sounds like a lot of work for little gain (hard work is essential, but all online IMO).

Also, you can try to find an established business online that has a 2nd tier domain name and make your pitch to them.
I was really asking about how to contact startups as you said they are the ones who mostly buy brandables :)


Thanks discussing, I'm sincerely just trying to get ideas not argue :)
 
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"Sites" are not new startups, and trade shows are surely not useful (I'm asking not contradicting :) )
Many companies at trade shows are showing their trade, and already have a website/domain name. even if they didn't, the chance of having a domain name suitable is low IMO.

Plus, travelling and physically networking to sell domain names sounds like a lot of work for little gain (hard work is essential, but all online IMO).


I was really asking about how to contact startups as you said they are the ones who mostly buy brandables :)


Thanks discussing, I'm sincerely just trying to get ideas not argue :)

Yes, thanks because this is also my question. Not trying to figure out a way to pitch a better name to someone who already has a name, although that's a great idea, but just trying to brainstorm and see if there is a way to pitch to true startups/
 
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For many brandables it may be easier to wait for the buyer to find you. You could try listing it on one of the marketplaces or Afternic.

It all depends on the name of course. Certain brandables can absolutely be sold through outbound. To be honest I don't know a whole lot about selling brandables through outbound. If I did I would have written "Tips on Selling Brandables" :)
 
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@nvdomains

Good reply. I learned a little something from your points.

@Sepia Marketing

I think a method for selling these types of names would be to set up your domain with a good lander with good SEO. (I've heard Efty landers have good SEO and I think BrandBucket's landers are pretty good.) Then maybe your domain will rank higher for whatever keyword you're targeting. If a potential buyer Googles that term and your domain pops up, you have a shot at selling it to them!
Thanks, Andrew
 
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Nice post. Also, sometimes just go with your gut. If it sounds nice, punchy, innovative or memorable (or even all 4 of these) then just go for it. Always check trademarks first of course.

Also you can try and imagine a use for names you are looking for, and use phonetics to further narrow down your search. For example, front spoken vowels are usually more ideal for lighter, sharper things, where as back spoken vowels are for more dull, blunt and larger objects.

ie: Think TWIG (light, small, can be sharp if your unlucky :P)
Think BRANCH (bigger than twig, heavier, thicker)
 
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Good post, Andrew! Thanks for sharing your tips with us.B-)
 
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Thanks for the tips. .. I'll take note.
 
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Thanks so much for your post.
 
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First off, thank you for sharing Andrew.

I would caution members about relying on Estibot for short brandable domains. Estibot's appraisals rely heavily on search engine stats such as Cost Per Clicks and Monthly Search Volume. While this might help show which keywords pair well, it does not help 5L and 6L Brandables. Estibot appraisals has helped me more with Geo Domains when search engine stats are more targeted to the buyer.

When I started using estibot for short brandable domains, I passed on many good brandables because of the low appraisals and registered many bad brandables because of the high appraisals. The metric of good and bad is based on brandable marketplace acceptance percentages.


I tried Estibot for valuation but you are right it's kinda wonky. can you recommend for me and everyone else reading this then which is a better option?
 
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