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Whether you're conducting outbound sales or you have received an inbound enquiry, there will usually be one question that can dictate the course of negotiations: "How Much?". This is one of the most common phrases that you'll ever hear with regards to domain sales, but how do you respond to this? I've been trying to perfect the response to this question for quite some time.

There are two scenarios in which this question can arise; firstly during outbound sales, and secondly during an inbound enquiry. Let's start off by examining this question in an outbound sales enquiry.

You've done your research, you've sent your emails and you've received a response. Great so far, but that response just says: "How much?". To be in with a chance of closing a sale, you will have to answer this question directly. However, do you state a price straight away or do you ask for offers to be submitted?

There are cases for both approaches, but there are also risks involved with each strategy. By stating your price outright, it could be said that you're running the risk of either leaving money on the table, or immediately alienating the potential buyer by stating a price that's too high.

Another alternative could be to quote a price range, such as "I'm looking for a four figure offer to sell this name". Whilst this is a vague answer, it could be the start of a conversation that could end in a sale. In outbound sales, you'll always need to remember that you contacted them, so you'll need to be more direct with your responses.

I asked domain broker Hobi Michalec (@Hobi Michalec) for his views on how to approach this question in an outbound sales scenario. As a broker, Hobi has been involved with a number of high value transactions in the past few years, and as such, is more than qualified to answer this question:

"When I reach out to someone from an outbound standpoint my almost immediate response is, 'When are you available for a phone call to further discuss?' If possible, I will always prefer to speak on the phone as there's much I can infer. Are they the decision maker, how much more are they willing to offer, how much more discussion is necessary on their end, is the timing an issue with making a more 'realistic' offer, are they actually interested enough to make a serious offer?"

Hobi raises a very valid point here, that whilst email can get you so far, sometimes a phone call can let you tell more about the potential buyer than anything else. Often, far more information is gained over the phone that can help you to answer their initial question of "How Much?".

An inbound enquiry can mean a completely different strategy. In an inbound enquiry, you already know that the person that emailed you has had enough interest in your domain to either find your email address, or fill in an enquiry form. Sometimes, their initial enquiry may be accompanied with an offer.

If an offer doesn't arrive, you could play hard ball by just telling the interested party to make you an offer; if you have the inclination to keep ahold of your domain until the right offer comes along (à la Rick Schwartz), it could result in an offer eventually matching or surpassing your expectations.

You could also set a firm price for the domain, which, like our outbound example above, could result in money being left on the table, or alienating the potential buyer. Depending on your need for a sale, you could go for this approach, or tell the potential buyer that you are looking for an offer in a specific price range.

Again, I asked Hobi for his view on how to deal with the question of "How Much?" during an inbound enquiry:

"When it's an inbound lead the ball is in your court. I will still always try to call them. My objective is to call them ASAP, usually within a couple minutes. Should a phone call not be possible I will usually respond with, 'The Seller is looking for offers in the (blank) figures'. The conversation after that can go several ways. They can occasionally ask 'What does that mean?' 'Give me your price, I won't negotiate.' 'I need to know the price or else I can't speak with my team' etc."

Researching your potential buyer thoroughly can help you give informed decisions regarding pricing. As Hobi pointed out, sometimes a potential buyer will need a price to relay to their team. If you know that your buyer is a part of a large corporation, this knowledge may prompt you to give a more specific price to your inbound enquiry.

How do you respond to the question of "How much"? Post your opinions in the comments below.
 
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I bound or outbound inquiry, I will tell my final price, FULL STOP. Take it or reject it. I dont want to cheat as a Seller or I dont want to be cheated as a buyer.

A fair and firm price, sometimes with a margin for a bit of negotiation, is what I use with great success. Many people are afraid of selling with a BIN price, as they are dreaming of the white night that will eventually come along and offer them a fortune for their name. Unless you've got some of the top, top names in existence, this is a fantasy and there will be mostly lost sales as the seller states very high prices and buyers balk and walk. I have sold nearly 1,000 names now and have been using the firm pricing and BIN for the last couple years, with greater success than "make me an offer" (which sounds unprofessional anyway) or starting out too high. Each day I go through more of my names listed at Afternic and Sedo and make them BIN. And I don't like letting someone make the first offer anyway, as they are just about always very low offers and once the buyer has stated that opening price, they are psychologically invested in not paying much more -- it's an ego thing, and everyone has ego.
 
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I love talking to potential buyers on the phone. When I started out it was nerve racking, but with every call I get more and more confident. What I've found is that SOME potential buyers may find it more difficult to say "no" on the phone and will try to divert the convo back to email. It can become a little chase.

Calling is way more complicated than emailing, but the very act of calling someone increases the perceived value of your domain, because you're making an extra effort to reach out. Hearing your voice on the other end of the call also gives class to your domain. People don't call to pitch shit domains. You call when you're proposing an "ACQUISITION" of something highly valuable, because email isn't "serious" enough of a medium to discuss "important business that could increase your revenue and lower your marketing costs".

That's the kind of attitude that helps me on the phone anyway. I'm still mastering the CLOSING of a sale though.
 
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How do you respond to the question of "How much"? Post your opinions in the comments below.

Great post James!

I usually just say:


Haha, jk. In all seriousness, my first priority is to research the buyer and find out everything I can such who are they (LinkedIn, FaceBook, even twitter - really all social media) and then look to see what similar domains do they own. If I see something like ChicagoPersonalTrainer.com and I have PersonalTrainerChicago.com, I will evaluate their business, average cost per lead, amount of similar registered domains, and so on. Then I ask, is my domainer a designer, developer, or direct enduser.

It is the biggest issue of cat and mouse for me. Do I sell 10 domains for $200 each, or do I wait for one of those domains to sell at $2,000. Sometimes, it's a simple cashflow need. If I need funds, I will sell cheap, if not, I will stick to my guns. Most importantly, I like to track my enduser emails. Often times, I wil sell a domain, include a list of my domains, and I will know every time that buyer reopened that email. I strategically wait to see if they open the email multiple times, and whenever I notice a notification they just opened the email for a 4th or 5th time, I send them a follow up email to our previous sale.
 
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Well, phone calls can get expensive if you are not a citizen of the same country as the potential buyer. I just reply with the amount 1.5x higher than my expectation. Although I would completely agree with you regarding inbound offers.
 
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The thing that sucks about tracking opens is, if they have hide image set to like a decent amount do, then it won't track if they open it.
 
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Whoa whoa there's a way to know if how many time they open an email? How?????? Do tell??? Please thanks.

I use HubSpot. It's FREE! Below is a screenshot of my chrome extension.

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I bound or outbound inquiry, I will tell my final price, FULL STOP. Take it or reject it. I dont want to cheat as a Seller or I dont want to be cheated as a buyer.
 
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There are several ways to know that. you can use a paid toold like sideckik or also a free one like streak for gmail. you can find a blog post for each of those services here on NP.

Really cool article from @James Iles and like He said, the reply depends from our cashflow need.
I love too phone calls because emails can be more cold and I like to understand the feeling of my prospects.
He also have to reply immediatly, without think to things for long.

Btw before to give any reply, like @Grilled pointed, is always better make some research on the prospects in order to better articolate the discussion in our favor.
 
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Domain created on: 11 Feb 2016.
Trademark Registered: 23 Feb 2016.
Filing Date: 21 March 2016.

Still,
1) If they file a UDRP you will have to prove genuine intent in buying the domain name.
2) If you have parked the domain it will show ads similar to the complainant which will cause problem.
3) Go to DomainGang.com etc to find more info on UDRP.
 
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Whoa whoa there's a way to know if how many time they open an email? How?????? Do tell??? Please thanks.
Hi Avtar629, I recently came across the news in a thread here on NP. After some research I found quite a few services, but I'm using "www.wasmyemailread.com" for now :)
 
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A fair and firm price, sometimes with a margin for a bit of negotiation, is what I use with great success. Many people are afraid of selling with a BIN price, as they are dreaming of the white night that will eventually come along and offer them a fortune for their name. Unless you've got some of the top, top names in existence, this is a fantasy and there will be mostly lost sales as the seller states very high prices and buyers balk and walk. I have sold nearly 1,000 names now and have been using the firm pricing and BIN for the last couple years, with greater success than "make me an offer" (which sounds unprofessional anyway) or starting out too high. Each day I go through more of my names listed at Afternic and Sedo and make them BIN. And I don't like letting someone make the first offer anyway, as they are just about always very low offers and once the buyer has stated that opening price, they are psychologically invested in not paying much more -- it's an ego thing, and everyone has ego.

Wow! Fantastic insight. I really appreciate you sharing

Interested to know more about, how do you get connected to the BUYER actually? Do you invite the buyer to the Hubspot ?

HubSpot is simply a Gmail plugin I use as my own personal tracking email analytics. To me it gives me an upper edge, and often times after a repeat sale, I will reveal my secrets to my buyer when they asked how I knew certain details.

I'm happy to review the leads for the leads / domains in my HubSpot screnshot:

Re: Looking for a Domain 6 views, I purchased a bulk lot of 50 domains for $104 from @Mahogany on NamePros last year. A domain that @Mahogany purchased for $15 via NamePros had apparently been bought by my buyer via Sedo, and after purchase, the buyer reached out to me to see what other domains I had for sale at great prices. I informed the buyer, I was not the one who listed the domain on Sedo for $130, and to make a long story short, offered the domain for sale at BIN at $300. The buyer countered $250. I accepted, they provided a paypal payment to include fee's, and I immediately transferred them their domain. The transaction itself took no more than 20 minutes. They were not interested at seeing a list of domains without BIN prices. We now have a continued buyer / seller relationship.

Re: V.i.v.i.a*n.a.s/com 1 view, I love first name domains, even if they are in the plural form like Dennys. It is for personal attachment reasons I value this domain higher than others, and might have ended negotiations before they even started. I came in at a high asking price, and have not heard back. They are due for a followup.

Re: Price Quote: T.a.c.t.i*c.a.m 5 views I have a standing low ball offer for this domain that I am not willing to accept. Even though it is a BB reject, I still feel this domain has tremendous value. It is a typo of Tactical, and a brandable made up word combining 'Tactical' with 'Camera' I emailed the buyer a similar description, and explained to them why I wasn't willing to sell for low $XXX. Like a rookie, I researched the buyer after I emailed the description and found the following description. Fortunately, I guessed right with my description to what the domain was destined to become, a tactical camera. I have not heard back from this enduser yet. It could be time for a follow up. They do not know I know their plans for the domain, or that I found the article I found. I have set the BIN

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Re: Prenatal/Box.com 1 view Namerific, brokered and sold this domain for me at full asking price of $2X99. I believe this domain could have sold itself regardless of venue, however, I was unsure if I could get full ask so I sought the help of premium domain packaging, while I still retained the right to list elsewhere.

The leads for both T.a.c.t.i*c.a.m and, V.i.v.i.a*n.a.s/com both came from make offer / send message landing pages powered for free by @Shane Bellone DNPages.com. This is a free landing page that I personally really enjoy. Others use similar landing page services such as Efty.com and DomainNameSales.com and forward all leads for themselves to broker for less commission.
 
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and what if like what recently happened to me. someone contacted me from a fake email starting like [email protected]?

can't really check who it is. since they did not even put their name in the signature.
the email tracking software do not search who own that mail.
there is no tool for doing that.. you have to do your own research.
with fake emails is simple.. just forgive and move on. fake emails only make fake offers ;)
 
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Generally I put BIN upfront..sometimes with margin and than take the discussion forward. Thanks for the post.
 
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Great post James!

I usually just say:


Haha, jk. In all seriousness, my first priority is to research the buyer and find out everything I can such who are they (LinkedIn, FaceBook, even twitter - really all social media) and then look to see what similar domains do they own. If I see something like ChicagoPersonalTrainer.com and I have PersonalTrainerChicago.com, I will evaluate their business, average cost per lead, amount of similar registered domains, and so on. Then I ask, is my domainer a designer, developer, or direct enduser.

It is the biggest issue of cat and mouse for me. Do I sell 10 domains for $200 each, or do I wait for one of those domains to sell at $2,000. Sometimes, it's a simple cashflow need. If I need funds, I will sell cheap, if not, I will stick to my guns. Most importantly, I like to track my enduser emails. Often times, I wil sell a domain, include a list of my domains, and I will know every time that buyer reopened that email. I strategically wait to see if they open the email multiple times, and whenever I notice a notification they just opened the email for a 4th or 5th time, I send them a follow up email to our previous sale.

Whoa whoa there's a way to know if how many time they open an email? How?????? Do tell??? Please thanks.
 
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A good thread after a long time on Namerpros. Thank you.
 
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This may be a post for another thread, but this post got me looking back into these domains, and I just noticed something I need to gain more insight on.

The potential buyer for this domain has a trademark filing date of March 21st, 2016. I purchased the domain on February 11th, 2016. The buyer emailed me on April 19th, do I have any reason to be concerned?

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Hi @Grilled, kindly keep us updated - thanks :!:
 
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I will send them a quote as they obviously ignored all my requests to make best offer. I wont follow up either not into fruitless negotiations. I generally will give a price I am more than comfortable with.
Most offers are intentional low balls so will just ignore those.

A real enquiry stands out as it is a real person with a real name with a web site you can do a whois on.
A real offer is someone that wants to buy your site they won't offer pennies but generally a fair market price as they have done some home work on their end before contacting you.
Every enquiry without a real name or priced obviously too low should be ignored.
 
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I always thought this was best way to answer that question. :xf.wink:

Potential Buyer: How Much?
Domain Seller: How Much You Got?
 
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I always thought this was best way to answer that question. :xf.wink:

Potential Buyer: How Much?
Domain Seller: How Much You Got?
Let me know your budget and i will tell you if your on the money.
 
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There are several ways to know that. you can use a paid toold like sideckik or also a free one like streak for gmail. you can find a blog post for each of those services here on NP.

Really cool article from @James Iles and like He said, the reply depends from our cashflow need.
I love too phone calls because emails can be more cold and I like to understand the feeling of my prospects.
He also have to reply immediatly, without think to things for long.

Btw before to give any reply, like @Grilled pointed, is always better make some research on the prospects in order to better articolate the discussion in our favor.


and what if like what recently happened to me. someone contacted me from a fake email starting like [email protected]?

can't really check who it is. since they did not even put their name in the signature.
 
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