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Be careful at NameJet pre-release auctions

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Check the domain whois and history to see if it is a "legit" pre-release (expired) domain or a domain being sold through NameJet (which supposedly doesn't accept clients domains for sale).

In the last days and the next days to come, there are bunch of domains that are being sold by the same owner that is puting fake bids at the minimum price ($69) and then removing them at the last minute. There is tipically 3 or 5 bidders with the maximum bid at $69 and the domains are crap. So, if you see them and wonder why they have some backorders then backoff.

This an advice that should be followed everytime but in this case the seller is so dubious, with so many changes in the whois of his domains, and with this fake bids scam so clear that one has to wonder how NameJet is permiting such an activity.

Money talks...

regards,
tonecas
 
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Many back-ordering services have shady business practices. Quite frankly, Pool.com can kiss my rear. I was defrauded by Pool out of a winning bid for Celsius.com

When you win, and they don't get the price they wanted, you'll get a phone call that they've rejected your credit card and asking you to make payment via some other means. I personally tried 4 different cards (2 corporate, 2 personal) of my own, and then when they couldn't seem to make any of them work (all have a ZERO balance), they froze my account and the domain was not reauctioned.
 
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Namejet

hello,

the first case can be because NameJet seems to (sometimes ?) change the bid time for the starting winning bidder. also, there are some that use bots to subscribe to auctions in the last minutes, to get the final auction prices, so that they don't enter in auctions with less than 3 to 5 bidders.

computersupply(.)com is one in a increasing list of domains that are showned in pre-release lists and then go to deletion. the situations vary and NameJet answers that it is the Registrar option to send or not domains to NameJet (which is true but is somewhat odd when the domains come from the shareholders of NameJet).

for today:
privatejetaircraft.com (5)

not hiding now who the owners are but with new whois contacts...

regards,
tonecas

I think you misunderstood or I need to clarify..

Namejet's backordering-(subscribe) for a domain auction ends every night at 8:00 PM PT right?

So how can you enter the auction (back order) from 8:00 PM PT to 11:00 AM PT once it is closed?

All of a sudden, at 10:32 AM PT (the next day after it was closed), a new bidder appears?

Everyone gets a confirmation email at 11:00 AM PT that you will be part of the auction when it starts or you were the only bidder. right?
 
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I think you misunderstood or I need to clarify..

Namejet's backordering-(subscribe) for a domain auction ends every night at 8:00 PM PT right?

So how can you enter the auction (back order) from 8:00 PM PT to 11:00 AM PT once it is closed?

All of a sudden, at 10:32 AM PT (the next day after it was closed), a new bidder appears?

Everyone gets a confirmation email at 11:00 AM PT that you will be part of the auction when it starts or you were the only bidder. right?

Hello,

Yes I understood you. What I said is that NameJet has a "strange" way of setting the initial winning bid. For instance, it is not the first time I see my bid as the starting winning bid but the time the bid was placed is wrong or even shows as entered *after* the deadline to backorder.

Anyway, these are indeed all very shady moves.

for today, please help the poor scammers make their living:
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regards,
tonecas
 
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what a scammers _\|/_

for today some more, keeping the trend of last weeks.

another hint. if the domain comes from ENOM and it is privacy protected then think twice on bidding. most domains that are legit from ENOM don't have any privacy on (the exceptions are usually the ones that had already privacy set long before)

9013.org
chhf.org
bcvn.com
asiansexsites.com
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propertymemphis.com
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saltspringoceanfront.com
propertymemphis.com
njpropertytax.com

regards,
tonecas
 
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some more :blink:

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regards,
tonecas
 
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regards,
tonecas
 
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with the help of NameJet maybe someone will grab the worst:

lyms.com
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regards,
tonecas
 
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getting an average of 10 domains/day... I wonder if/when we will see a lawsuit aggainst NameJet... if domains get a default one bid to be listed on namejet then namjet itself is breaching marketplace rules...

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regards,
tonecas
 
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I've heard that Chris Ambler has/had something to do with Namejet. He and a guy named John Frangie worked hard at IOD (webtld.com) for the .web extension. They got screwed out of it back in 2000.

A word of advice: Be very careful in the domain auction environment. It is unregulated territory and a petri dish for fraud, shill-bidding, and abuse of bidders' rights.

Quit giving the auctioneers your business. You must be brain-dead to not realize that the prime names are going to be scooped up by insiders at the registry, registrar, or drop catcher. By hook or by crook you will never get the best names. You will only get the names the insiders don't want, the names they'd rather sell to you knowing how desperate you are for mere crumbs. They get your cash for mediocre names, while maintaining the option of retaining the best names for themselves.
 
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great names, great quality screening by NameJet :gn:

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regards,
tonecas
 
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How do you find all these domains?
 
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there is yet another scheme. :kickass:

Tucows, after its initial dwelling through which drop catcher to use for their domains gotten from clients who didn't renewed them, finally seems to have stick with NameJet.

And it is now clear why.

They are allowed to list domains on NameJet that are not expired, without minimum reserve price, with many bids and above the minimum listing value and then - in the last hour - remove them from auction. only because they seem to not wanting to sell these precious domains :bah: at bargain prices.

don't get me wrong. they are not the leading edge since Register has been also placing their expired domains on auctions across the board starting at above average values, just to try to nail a bigger price (and they don't stick only to NameJet).

but they do have now an uncontested way to test the market and decide to not stand to their offers if the bids are not of their taste. what a great deal! :sold:

on top of it, all the action "per se" is nice to see. the domains are grabbed from owners who didn't renewed them, place under protected whois accounts - not to hide the fact, for sure - and finally moved to YummyNames division to sneak them to the public through NameJet. But since we are in a recovery period all these guys feel that they can delay the drop of the domains if the bids are not so great.


so, we are moving from cases where owners can put their great names with fake bids on auction to the cases where owners can decide without any constraint when their domains get on auction. maybe we will see auctions where the seller decides not to sell a domain because he thinks the final price is lousy :ghost:

regards,
tonecas
 
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I could quote many NP users above, but I won't go into details about a lot of what is being said here. Folks, why are we even having this discussion? It boils down to what some said (sorry to those that did, for not rereading, directly quoting you, and giving that credit here):

Regardless of other bidders, scamming or not, owners of the domains already or not, or rather the drop service knows about it or is even in on the game, it does NOT matter! If you bid on a name, you should be willing to pay that price to get the domain, plain and simple. If you're worried someone is driving your bids up, without them actually having any intent on winning themselves, or that they are the current registrant and are making money off it, then treat it as if you were buying the domain out-right through cold-calls/emails to a buyer or someplace like Sedo, and not "snapping" it in an auction or through the drop. Only bid the maximum you'd be willing to pay to own the domain, regardless of the situation. If you don't know what it's worth, and are using the number of bids already there to see if it's "worth bidding on", you don't belong in the drop-catch game to begin with - go read and learn more before you loose your shirt. Even if the drop services did all they could, some people will (like everything else in life) find ways to muck it up for others, or to try and scheme around the system. If you want the name bad enough, you'd pay the price, regardless of the "reason" it got that high (scam or not) - You can't overly care about a cold-call you make to another domainer or domain registrant, then think it matters when you try to argue the reason with them why they want more than you're willing to pay. Kow what you're bidding on, what it's worth (at least to you and your plans/strategy for it), and go that far with it.....Otherwise, don't play in the game. This is a game about $, and the fact there are folks finding ways to take advantage of it should be the EXPECTED and not the HOW COULD THEY...welcome to greed and, sadly, human nature.

Just my opinion on the matter;)
 
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maximum, I understand what you are saying but you are missing the point here. the bidding in a domain to see the end price is not the issue. the issue is the scam:

1) NameJet has been warned about it and did absolute nothing. so, i think it's relevant to know that they are permitting and even participating in this, don't you?

2) if you don't bid on these auction many will, time after time. and people that bid are not the first party to breach marketplace rules...

3) who sells this way is getting money in an unfair way. if you play by the rules you are in fact loosing to them as they will have an extra cash to compete with you.

4) saying that this is all a scam and that there is no point even in discussing this it is not something that I can accept. if everyone looks to the other side soon you will be making your living in another business.

5) there are domains that have value and go to the drop houses. registrars and drop houses even miss some big names registered with them, because this market is still very inefficient. and by saying nothing and doing nothing we are all increasing there pockets so that they can bet bigger on warehousing and unfair practices.


regards,
tonecas
 
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tonecas,

Points well taken ! :tu: I'm not beyond making mistakes in judgement, or being taught to view things diffrently. You made me do that here, and few ever do. Credit to you for that:D

Maximum stands corrected;)
 
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I could quote many NP users above, but I won't go into details about a lot of what is being said here. Folks, why are we even having this discussion? It boils down to what some said (sorry to those that did, for not rereading, directly quoting you, and giving that credit here):

Regardless of other bidders, scamming or not, owners of the domains already or not, or rather the drop service knows about it or is even in on the game, it does NOT matter! If you bid on a name, you should be willing to pay that price to get the domain, plain and simple. If you're worried someone is driving your bids up, without them actually having any intent on winning themselves, or that they are the current registrant and are making money off it, then treat it as if you were buying the domain out-right through cold-calls/emails to a buyer or someplace like Sedo, and not "snapping" it in an auction or through the drop. Only bid the maximum you'd be willing to pay to own the domain, regardless of the situation. If you don't know what it's worth, and are using the number of bids already there to see if it's "worth bidding on", you don't belong in the drop-catch game to begin with - go read and learn more before you loose your shirt. Even if the drop services did all they could, some people will (like everything else in life) find ways to muck it up for others, or to try and scheme around the system. If you want the name bad enough, you'd pay the price, regardless of the "reason" it got that high (scam or not) - You can't overly care about a cold-call you make to another domainer or domain registrant, then think it matters when you try to argue the reason with them why they want more than you're willing to pay. Kow what you're bidding on, what it's worth (at least to you and your plans/strategy for it), and go that far with it.....Otherwise, don't play in the game. This is a game about $, and the fact there are folks finding ways to take advantage of it should be the EXPECTED and not the HOW COULD THEY...welcome to greed and, sadly, human nature.

Just my opinion on the matter;)

You sound like Chris Ambler.
 
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what a bunch of crooks. free pass to list names on namejet...


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regards,
tonecas
 
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regards,
tonecas
 
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I was going to bid on a domain at namejet that was suppose to be prerelease but it is a game with fabulous and namejet.

They should auction it off elsewhere instead of claiming it will expired. That is a scam in my book..

Registrant Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent ()


Status: Locked

Name Servers:
ns1.fabulous.com
ns2.fabulous.com

Creation date: 09 Jan 2000 21:00:18
Expiration date: 09 Jan 2012 21:00:00
 
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one third of the "pre-release" domains are coming now from the same source. nice scam.

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regards,
tonecas
 
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special attention to bisexualescort.com that had already be put on pre-release auction on 30-07-2010 using the same scam and knowledge of NameJet


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regards,
tonecas
 
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total flood...

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regards,
tonecas
 
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a few more. it is nice to have a place where most people looks to dump all the crap...

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regards,
tonecas
 
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regards,
tonecas
 
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