Hi there
@djum
Thanks for your comment and doing your due diligence. I think it's very important to do one due diligence before buying anything online.
While each of these statements by itself maybe true, I find it impossible for all of them to be true at the same time. Creating quality site and ranking it it's tedious process, starting with competitive analysis and keyword research that alone takes 2-3 days. And it's one of the most important steps. Even if you use template from Envato, buying content at iWriter, it still takes more than 10 hours to perfect the posts, check the quality of the content, apply right tags, etc, etc, And I didn't even start the linkbuilding part of the job.
I understand what you're saying and I'm not saying every site is going to be the same as this instance. I did in fact only spend 10 hours on this site in total. The only time I spent after everything was set up and running (including backlinks) is checking stats like rankings and earnings.
I don't think I've ever spent 2 - 3 days doing competition and keyword research. I can do all this in a few hours and that's including niche research sifting through other sites, products in the niche and finding blogs, forums and social media groups to comment and interact with. Sorry but 2 -3 days is a long time in my opinion.
I target the low hanging fruit - well a mix of long tail keywords and medium comp keywords. I also think outside the box when it comes to keyword research. I use programs such as market samurai and long tail pro for keyword research.
With the site I sold for 100k - this was a 17 page site for 10 months, no updates. I've also had many other sites that I've added content to and left there sitting doing its own thing. Rankings stayed strong throughout the whole life of the site. The site for 100k STILL ranks in the top 3 for all the keywords I targeted.
Template - 20 seconds to install a theme with wordpress, about an hour to customise it. Content is where I spend most of the time. Depending on the topic it will take longer or shorter. If it's something I'm passionate about or have knowledge about I can smash an article out pretty quick over 1000 words. I normally tell a story with my content. This story will trigger emotion and all kinds of psychological soft selling techniques to get the reader to keep reading.
Adding tags, headings like h1, h3, bolding important words, underlining certain words, adding keyword rich keywords to images and making sure the title tag and seo description doesn't take very long at all to add. I'm not sure how long everyone else takes to do this but I certainly don't hours adding this features to my websites.
Not really. What Google likes about sites is constant development, if you don't update regularly, you rankings will start fade away. 2006-2007 when you put a website out there and it's in the SERP 2 weeks after is long time gone. Now it take 6-9 month to get there, Google sandbox is filter for new sites lowering the trust and visibility.
Sure google likes sites that are updated regularly but not all the time and I've proved this wrong with my sites. This really does depend on the keyword, the page and how well you've optimised the page for search engines both on site and off site. Again, these sites stick when they finish doing their google dance. Rankings have stayed strong throughout the life of the sites. Also, if you write engaging content that is good, people link to it on their own - natural/organic backlinks.
Another myth that I have proved wrong is bounce rate. Most of my sites had high bounce rates - these are affiliate sites and the whole idea of it is to get people to leave via the affiliate link. All the talk about high bounce rates affecting rankings in my opinion is bull..sure maybe for some cases but I am yet to see this to be a factor.
6-9 months to get there, yeah maybe for a mid to high competitive keyword but this is definitely not the case for every keyword especially long tail low comp. Again, I think outside the box when it comes to keyword research and content creation. This is how I've become some what successful at it. Normally it takes around 2 months some times earlier to see ranking. Google will do it's little dance with the keyword to see where it's going to rank the keyword then it becomes sticky until another site does a better job and out ranks it...
I've only ever had one site go into google sandbox/penalised and that was about 4 years ago. I actually spent a lot of time on this site and I fell for the whole blackhat link building techniques for quick ranking, this site was ranking very well already and making me around $800 per week (The content/reviews were killer), then the link building service I used at the time sent a bunch of spammy/shit links to it and it was no where to be seen in the search engines and the earnings went to $0 over night.
^ I learnt a HUGE lesson from this. Quality is far more important than Quantity. I also learnt to be very careful with any kind of link building techniques.
Some Clickbank products give 75% commission, but not all, and not most.
Sorry but the majority of clickbank products that I promote are 75% and when you build a good relationship with a vendor some will bump that up, especially if you're sending them sales. I get 90% commissions for one of the products I promote at the moment because I've sent a good volume of sales and built a relationship with the vendor. I definitely didn't say all are 75% but even the lower end of 50% is still a high commission rate compared to Amazon, commission junction and some cpa offers.
Sure, not bad, but how many products retail for $800 and do you really think that you are the chosen one who will be making 5-10 sales of $800 products per day? Stop dreaming. Average conversion is 2-3%, to make 5 sales/day you need to get 200-500 people with intention to buy $800 product on your site each day. Not just interested readers, but people with intention to buy. And high price will attracts high competition.Think of mesothelioma or injury lawyer domains.
Amazon has millions of products and there are shit loads over $800. Replica motorcycle helmets $600 - $1200. Welders - $600 - $6000, ride on lawn mowers, scooters, drones, tv's, laptops, the list goes on..I definitely not saying "I'm the chosen one" but Ive been doing this for years. 2-3% conversion rate - yeah that's probably the norm but not for everyone..As an affiliate, it's our job to get the potential customer warmed up so they are HOT to buy. If you have the right content and copy conversion rates can be more like 30%. Write better content - Target the right audience - Recommend the right product to that audience..Maybe this will help you with your conversion rate..
The thing with Amazon as well, I've found people will buy other items as well. a lot of the time they are very random items. Funny thing is I've promoted stuff like welding helmets and people of gone on to buy some kind of sex toy.
It's actually very doable to hit 5-10 sales per day. No offence, but maybe you need to dream bigger?
The high price certainly does attract competition but again you have to think outside the box. Be smarter than the competition. Sometimes this isn't very hard to do...
^ not everyone wants to do this on their own and not everyone has the confidence to do it. Sure it's not a very hard process but again, not everyone wants to do it. I will be adding as an add on...might even add bad link removal for free..I'm still looking into everything to make it a great service. I'm not going to rush this, I want to make sure everything is planned from the get go...
To all this said I want to add few things.
Creating successful content sites is definitely possible nowadays, but it's not as easy as creating10-20 pages of content or just spending 10 hours and only picking up checks after that. It will take decent amount of time and money investment. Quality links alone sell for $50-150. People offering scholarships worth of $1000, just to score 1 .edu link. And because of Google sandbox you will have to first invest this money, then wait and pray for 6-9 months hoping that Google will let your site rank. Sure, you can rush this process via link building with PBN or other black SEO tactics, but it will add the risk of site getting banned at any time. Also it will lower possible sale valuation. There's no free cheese other than in mousetrap. Margins of site creations is pretty good, but there's risk involved in the process. It's not as easy. That's why @
magnizmo doesn't give you any warranty, and just sell web design/content creation.
If making successful sites that sell for $100K was that easy and only took 10 hours, he would be popping them non-stop at 1 site/day, after selling his first one, instead advertising basic packages for $200-250 here
Don't you think so?
Again, I'm not saying every site will take only 10 hours. I used this as an example of a site I owned and sold. I'm definitely not saying that everyones site is going to be as successful either. Sorry but 10 - 20 page mini sites still work, still rank and still make money..
Sure you can spend $50 - $100 on a link but you can also get quality backlinks for free. Again, you just have to think outside the box. Also, I've ranked sites with very little to no backlinks - it all depends on the content, the keyword and the niche.
With the many sites I've owned and sold only one has been sandboxed and I learned a valuable lesson from that - don't throw masses of shit links at your website..
I don't use PBN links or blackhat so to speak. Most link building is blackhat according to Google I just do what has worked and still works. Again, I don't do pump and dump sites..These sites still rank!
Sure there are risks involved as there are with just about everything in life and again I'm not guaranteeing the sites will make money but I will be working my butt off so there is a higher chance of them making money..
I do still own many sites, manage sites for friends that I have helped gain a steady income online and I also buy and sell websites still and will continue to do so...
It would be a lot smarter of me to actually pop out a bunch of sites and get them ranking and banking but I get more reward out of helping others rather than seeing piles of money. Life isn't all about money and it certainly doesn't buy you happiness. It will make life a little easier and comfortable...I used to stack bricks all day before I started internet marketing..I now have multi level disc disease and my back is like one of a 60 year old. I'm only 36! I'm doing this as a hobby because I enjoy making websites and helping people..
My goal isn't to get rich of this service and a lot of the time I will probably break even if I add time into it, I'm in it for the challenge.
Thanks again for your comment. I appreciate all feedback good and bad. I know this wont be for everyone and I know there are going to be doubters and maybe even haters. The reason I started this thread was to see if there was an interest for this. There definitely is and with every ones motivating feedback it's pushed me to go forward with it.
It's still in the early stages and I do have a lot to plan.
Thanks again
Wazza
