Selling Would You Be Interested In This For Your Domain Names?

[magnizmo]

I know parking domain names can be profitable but why not develop your domain names into mini affiliate websites that generate more revenue?

I enjoy making and developing websites and was wondering if anyone here would be interested in a service that puts your parked domain names to good use?

Thinking about offering a service like this -

• Wordpress installation
• Keyword research
• Logo and theme installation and basic customisation.
• 5 - 10 pages of UNIQUE content each page with around 1000+ words
• Social media account set up - instagram, pinterest, twitter and facebook pages
• basic seo package to help rank the site

Would also have bigger packages which include more content and bigger seo package.

Basically, these would be mini affiliate sites promoting a choice of clickbank, amazon or cpa offers from cpa networks.

Would anyone here be interested in this at all?
Thanks!

 

[doubleU]

I don't know about that. I'm the type of person who would make certain the customer is happy, I just wouldn't be able to sleep at night if they weren't. The service would be very well explained once it's all planned out and I would also offer some kind of satisfaction guarantee.

@DomainChap Thanks for the comment. Some good advice/feedback there. I'm definitely considering it. I would be extremely strict with the quality of content and how it's written. There will definitely be discounts to x amount of members here, thinking those with good reputations that will give good honest feedback on the quality.

Price points, again I would have to take a good look at this. I agree, I wouldn't want to undersell but at the same time want to make it affordable.

Thanks again for your comment. Appreciate it.

You should proberly give this a go !

You seem to have a good attitude towards this plan, quality unique content is key.

 

[UncleBrand]

go for it,
people talk without proper experience

if you provide unique content with some nice layout optimized for conversion, and you know your stuff,
people will be happy to buy as long as it generate sales

Epik is irrelevant to what you plan to do,
Huffington post was build on curated content(=duplicate), as long as you know what you are doing that's great

if people see results they will buy,
offer the service at a discount to 5-10 people, collect testimonials,
and you are good to go

Do Not undersell your work,
it is better that you sell a 1000$ solution where you and the clients are happy than selling 100$ solution that are rubbish

 

[magnizmo]

I am an internet marketer primarily, domaining for me is secondary. So I have portfolio of my own sites as well that I have ranked but also have loads of domains that are not for sale but are sitting in my "must develop" pile. Unfortunately time is my biggest obstacle, I have tried outsourcing content and design before but was never able to get the quality I wanted. A service like yours sounds like something that would be of interest to me if it's reasonably priced and good quality. From the looks of it you know what you are talking about so It's certainly got my interest....

Great to here from other marketers! Thanks for your comment and interest.
Still working on price points and plans/packages but will keep in touch if and once I go ahead.

Just so everyone knows, I will be mainly doing this as a hobby. I really enjoy making websites and love the challenge of ranking them. But what I really enjoy and get more of a reward from is helping others. So, if I do press forward I'd be doing this with passion and a goal to make each website a profitable investment.

I know there is a lot of frustration with parking domain names and seeing the small return, so something like this might be a better option.

For those who are interested in having a site developed this is something to think about -

Most websites that have earnings sell anywhere between 10 - 36 times monthly revenue. There are a few factors which determines the end value but if you take a look at the low end and you have a site which is making $2000 per month this can easily sell for $20,000 - $35,000 - That's if you decide to sell it.

I don't want to get ahead of myself or make promises but my goal would to develop each site so they are making $500 - $5000 per month. Might sound optimistic to some, but it's definitely doable with the right approach/set up and sales funnel.

Definitely wont be making any promises but that is the vision.

 

[djum]

@magnizmo

I'm sorry, but your claims just doesn't pass my due diligence.

1. "very basic website with just 17 pages of content - QUALITY content"

2. " I spent about 10 hours in total (IN TOTAL) on this website, that's including link building, writing content/reviews and creating a sales funnel. This website was bringing no less than $2000 per WEEK"

3. "After 10 months I sold this website for $100,000US"

While each of these statements by itself maybe true, I find it impossible for all of them to be true at the same time. Creating quality site and ranking it it's tedious process, starting with competitive analysis and keyword research that alone takes 2-3 days. And it's one of the most important steps. Even if you use template from Envato, buying content at iWriter, it still takes more than 10 hours to perfect the posts, check the quality of the content, apply right tags, etc, etc, And I didn't even start the linkbuilding part of the job.

"The only work I do on these sites now is check earnings and rankings"

Not really. What Google likes about sites is constant development, if you don't update regularly, you rankings will start fade away. 2006-2007 when you put a website out there and it's in the SERP 2 weeks after is long time gone. Now it take 6-9 month to get there, Google sandbox is filter for new sites lowering the trust and visibility.

"Clickbank for instance - most products give 75% commission on their products"

Some Clickbank products give 75% commission, but not all, and not most.

"6-8% commission on a $800 product isn't bad if you're sending amazon 5 - 10 sales per day!'

Sure, not bad, but how many products retail for $800 and do you really think that you are the chosen one who will be making 5-10 sales of $800 products per day? Stop dreaming. Average conversion is 2-3%, to make 5 sales/day you need to get 200-500 people with intention to buy $800 product on your site each day. Not just interested readers, but people with intention to buy. And high price will attracts high competition.Think of mesothelioma or injury lawyer domains.

"I may offer bad link removal at an extra cost for these domain names"

Free tool right here:
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/2648487?hl=en

To all this said I want to add few things.
Creating successful content sites is definitely possible nowadays, but it's not as easy as creating10-20 pages of content or just spending 10 hours and only picking up checks after that. It will take decent amount of time and money investment. Quality links alone sell for $50-150. People offering scholarships worth of $1000, just to score 1 .edu link. And because of Google sandbox you will have to first invest this money, then wait and pray for 6-9 months hoping that Google will let your site rank. Sure, you can rush this process via link building with PBN or other black SEO tactics, but it will add the risk of site getting banned at any time. Also it will lower possible sale valuation. There's no free cheese other than in mousetrap. Margins of site creations is pretty good, but there's risk involved in the process. It's not as easy. That's why @magnizmo doesn't give you any warranty, and just sell web design/content creation.

If making successful sites that sell for $100K was that easy and only took 10 hours, he would be popping them non-stop at 1 site/day, after selling his first one, instead advertising basic packages for $200-250 here Don't you think so?

 

[Bram C.]

This has been done plenty of times before.

I remember the days when epik.com used to do that and then one day hundreds of epik customers using epik landers/portals noticed their domains got deindexed.

Adam Dicker was offering a similar "service" as well and we all know how that turned out.

I'm not saying there isn't a demand for a service like this, I'm sure some people will sign up if you offer a quality service at a reasonable price. But it's nothing new or original.

 

[deez007]

I think it could actually work if you manage to find the right price point and offer a quality service.

 

[frank-germany]

that actually is not worth the effort

you either create a real website with a lot of usefull original content
or you may skip this idea totally

there is no low end approach to it that even justifies the hosting expenses

of course there is demand
by people how are frustrated
and think thats the way to go

but thats not the case
its wishfull thinking in most cases

 

[magnizmo]

@frank-germany Thanks for your comment. Not worth the effort to provide a service like this or not worth the effort in buying a service like this?

I think with a basic package of say 10 - 15 pages of high qaulity content of over 1000 words on each page with the right backlinks and seo can definitely make more money than a parked page.
I recently sold a mini site that promoted clickbank products as an affiliate. It was generating around $2k per week. This site sold for $100k and was 10 months old. I also sold fairly new mini sites (less than 6months old) for $20k. These had no more than 20 pages of content on them.

There would be different plans of course - basic would be around 10 - 15 pages, silver package would be 25 - 30 pages and a mini authority site over 50 pages.

These mini sites would be all about the content. I think it's super important to have high quality content that's not overly seo'd or reads like a robot wrote it. Good conversational styled content that tells a story that's also keyword rich I've found always converts well and has ranked very well.

Again, I'm just reaching out for some feedback if it will be worth doing or if anyone would be interested.
Thanks again.

 

[magnizmo]

but they will most likely not be satisfied customers in the end

I don't know about that. I'm the type of person who would make certain the customer is happy, I just wouldn't be able to sleep at night if they weren't. The service would be very well explained once it's all planned out and I would also offer some kind of satisfaction guarantee.

@DomainChap Thanks for the comment. Some good advice/feedback there. I'm definitely considering it. I would be extremely strict with the quality of content and how it's written. There will definitely be discounts to x amount of members here, thinking those with good reputations that will give good honest feedback on the quality.

Price points, again I would have to take a good look at this. I agree, I wouldn't want to undersell but at the same time want to make it affordable.

Thanks again for your comment. Appreciate it.

 

[magnizmo]

Thanks @doubleU the way I think of it is like this - If I was handing over my money to a service like this (which I have in the past) I would want top quality. It's just really hard to find something that delivers what they promise these days. If I were to go ahead and set this up, I'd be putting quality before quantity.

Thanks again for your motivation

 

[magnizmo]

Epik did this on a large scale and every domain on their DNS was dropped from Google index.

I'm guessing spammy backlinks? Maybe a pbn not set up right?
I've owned and ran over 100 websites since I started online. Only once have I been penalised and de-indexed and that was because of shady/spammy links.

With the new google update recently released, they are now penalising single pages instead of site wide penalties. If I do set this up as a service (still thinking about it), these wont be pump n dump sites that have hundreds or thousands of junk backlinks thrown at them.

> Quality content that's written to convert into affiliate sales.
> Social media accounts that are active (this can be semi automated)
> Quality backlinks over x amount of time.
> Video creation and submission to top video sites.

For anyone interested or if anyone has any suggestions of features they would like included please drop them here because if I do set this up I will try and include it.

 

[Brokerdeals]

I wouldn't mind being your first demo would pay $50 once completed
Here is my logo lets see what you can do to showcase your talent
The domain in question would be Tea.Express
Instead of talking about it, thought maybe you can show us your stuff
I will be opening a ecommerce with this domain with dropshipping

 

[deez007]

I don't know about that. I'm the type of person who would make certain the customer is happy, I just wouldn't be able to sleep at night if they weren't. The service would be very well explained once it's all planned out and I would also offer some kind of satisfaction guarantee.

@DomainChap Thanks for the comment. Some good advice/feedback there. I'm definitely considering it. I would be extremely strict with the quality of content and how it's written. There will definitely be discounts to x amount of members here, thinking those with good reputations that will give good honest feedback on the quality.

Price points, again I would have to take a good look at this. I agree, I wouldn't want to undersell but at the same time want to make it affordable.

Thanks again for your comment. Appreciate it.

I am an internet marketer primarily, domaining for me is secondary. So I have portfolio of my own sites as well that I have ranked but also have loads of domains that are not for sale but are sitting in my "must develop" pile. Unfortunately time is my biggest obstacle, I have tried outsourcing content and design before but was never able to get the quality I wanted. A service like yours sounds like something that would be of interest to me if it's reasonably priced and good quality. From the looks of it you know what you are talking about so It's certainly got my interest....

 

[domain07]

I'd appreciate if you could give links to some sample sites that you have already developed. I'm certainly interested and would like to develop some sites around domains that I've recently registered for this very purpose. Thanks

 

[magnizmo]

@domain07 and @rhakim
thank you both for your comments and advice. I will definitely be giving some heavily discounted sites for reviews. Maybe even a freebie, will have to see.

This wont be happening for at least a week. I need to properly plan everything. I do have a project I'm working on now for someone, just waiting for the green light on something, but once that's finished I will focus on getting this up and running.

Thanks again everyone for your thoughts and feedback. This forum rocks!

 

[Pierre Barnard]

Would certainly be willing to give it a try with one or two domains. For some reason I have an .info domain with high traffic.

 

[magnizmo]

@Pierre Barnard That's great. The idea is still in its early stages but will definitely let you know if and when I set it all up. I'd probably start with a few discounted or maybe even a couple of free review packages to kick it off.

I've seen similar services to this on other forums but the examples of work they give just look a bit average. I'd be gearing more towards super high quality content on well researched keywords that are related to the domain name or niche of choice. Again, it's all in the early stages. Just getting some feedback and ideas before I take it to the next level...

@deez007 thanks for your comment. I would offer different packages low, mid and high. Maybe even custom packages. Again, still early stages and price points is something I would try and make affordable.

 

[frank-germany]

@frank-germany Thanks for your comment. Not worth the effort to provide a service like this or not worth the effort in buying a service like this?
.

you will find customers

but they will most likely not be satisfied customers in the end

try
domainapps.com
they are like or same as whypark.com
they done this in the past with little success to my domains

google is not stupid no more
there is no shortcut today

 

[mr-x]

@Bram C.
Not saying ALL services like this are the same, but I think most website creation services just throw together a website with cheap spun content that doesn't really convert or make money.
Thanks!

Epik did this on a large scale and every domain on their DNS was dropped from Google index.

 

[magnizmo]

It's certainly very interesting. One question : is it only for domains that already get traffic, or any domain ?

No, this would be for any domain names - I wont be doing adult though. If they are fresh/new domain names it will take a month or 2 for google to pick them up. The idea is to research keywords that are fairly easy to rank for, build content around those keywords and get them ranking.

The keywords would also be a mix of buyer intent and general articles. For my own sites, I do a few reviews and then articles around those reviews interlinking. One thing these wont be is fancy or beautiful sites. The main focus will be conversions and getting them ranked for keywords.

 

[mr-x]

Epik started setting up affiliate & ecommerce sites to monetize keyword domains.

They claimed the process was a huge success with sites like icecreammaker.com. The usual domain blogs all echoed Rob Monster's stories.

Then the rush... they sold THOUSANDS of affiliate sites for $249 and ecommerce sites for $2500. Which was really ironic after claiming that "Amazon.com" was going away b/c Google was king.

http://www.epik.com/blog/amazon-com-cracks-in-the-foundation.html

Google was flooded with spammy affiliate sites. Rob made bucks. Bloggers moved on to pitch the next great thing.

I don't have any advice for you

 

[magnizmo]

I wouldn't mind being your first demo would pay $50 once completed
Here is my logo lets see what you can do to showcase your talent
The domain in question would be Tea.Express
Instead of talking about it, thought maybe you can show us your stuff
I will be opening a ecommerce with this domain with dropshipping

Great! Your image didn't work though

I'm still thinking about it all but you just got a spot for a review package if I go ahead with it

 

[mr-x]

There are several example websites in the article I linked to. Check them on archive.org around 2009 - 2010.

Epik still sells the affiliate and ecommerce site on epik.com

 

[rhakim]

This will be a good idea,. as long as you can put unique features. And to start, provide free packages for a limmited time. Get feedback from the early users to make the next version .. only after this you should offer different types of topics.