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Why new gTLDs rule in usability!

Discussion in 'gTLD Discussion' started by lolwarrior, Feb 9, 2017.

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  1. dordomai

    dordomai Active Member VIP

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    That sounds like BS. Do you have a source for that? .com never had 100% of the startup market...

    ccTLDs were usually first choice for non-US startups.
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    Also the 33% are not nGTLDs since they have only 2% of the market.. you can't cönclude that .com is losing to nGTLDs. I would be more worried about this if you are a nGTLD investor since that would mean that startups prefer non-nGTLDs if they don't go with .com
     
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    "guess if you're just looking for a little personal type site where most visitors are friends and family, ok. But real business, not so much. Evidenced by startups pretty much staying away from them".
    NOT.
    Start-ups are not staying away. Just a few years ago, there were none. The New "G"s are being adopted much faster than the cctld's
    How long did it take for start-ups to adopt them ?
    There are plenty of lists on NP, so ignore them. Real business not using New "G"s is a straight up false, misleading, statement.
    Do your homework dude.
    Here's another fact catching up to ya Wineclub.com 25k didn't meet reserve. Wine.club 140k same venue 12 months apart.
    Bye-Bye ROI's. Hello New Growth.
    Happy Hunting
     
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    Good luck with your outlook.
    Happy Hunting
     
  4. lolwarrior

    lolwarrior Founder, Brands.International Business Account

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    Lets go back to topic of the thread - usability and advantages of new gTLDs..and interesting ways of their uses :)
     
  5. Acroplex

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    Keyword + gTLD has to form a functional pair to have an advantage over .com.

    Otherwise, Keyword1 + Keyword2 .com is preferred.

    Keep in mind the general population - consumers - aren't aware of new gTLDs and that's an issue with both ICANN and the Registries.
     
  6. todaygold

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    Agreed. While domainers like cute hacks...it means nothing for the general population. Go ahead and put 'Expert.Plumbing' on the side of your truck...98% of the population will just assume you mean you are great at plumbing...not that it refers to a website. And even if you verbally told someone that was your website...they would just go to expertplumbing.com ...so for the foreseeable future, .com will be tops for businesses actually want to attract the general public.
     
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    Well, you'd have to convince Bob (the plumber) first :) I've seen plenty of new gTLDs in the wild and wasn't really looking for them.
     
  8. lolwarrior

    lolwarrior Founder, Brands.International Business Account

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    Definitely I agree that keyword + gTLD has to form a functional pair...hopefully times when people were registering names like pizza.diamonds" just because both words pizza and diamonds are valuable in .com, are behind us :)
     
  9. Brandon.Domains

    Brandon.Domains Successful Internet Entrepreneur Since 1998 Business Account

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    This was probably a bot from a big company registering all kinds of domain combination.

    Thanks,
    Brandon
     
  10. dordomai

    dordomai Active Member VIP

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    I do not know but i think they were used from the beginning..
     
  11. dordomai

    dordomai Active Member VIP

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    Robert.Is.EnjoyingLife.com works exactly the same...EnjoyingLife.com is not much different from Enjoying.Life. The difference is that one is recognized as URL the other is not.
     
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  12. todaygold

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    The idea that one is recognized and one is not is of huge importance. It's like saying there are two shops, both the same size and with the same layout...but one is next to the mall in a major city...the other is 2 hours from the nearest town on some back road...yes, they may both be shops (domains), but obviously one is going to be a heck of a lot easier for people to get to (the .com). Which would a business (or individual) choose is this case? Hmmm.
     
  13. Loxline

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    The new gTLDs can create countless possibilities for a very specific niche/s. On the another hand there is quite limited space remaining opened for general use. For example; http://pizza.shop or shop.pizza is an easy way to confuse framed mindset - meaning of words factor. Shop is a shop and customer just think - what do i get from them?, ready to go or frozen pizza? etc.

    Once the world's largest advertising agencies start to use (push) new gTLDs and trust and loyalty come into play with the beliefs and goals of a targeted audience, the pizza.shop and shop.pizza can lead to the valuable position.

    Still, pizza.shop and shop.pizza facing one issue; association+loyalty.

    The names that are meaningful or associated (play), trusted (beliefs) and relevant (goals) become brands (loyalty) in themselves and are names people use.

    If pizza.shop or shop.pizza became baseline for franchise, from the marketing point of view this will be valuable way to use domain name.

    Even if you do manage to get such a domain name, you're probably going to sell it for $xxx (those days). Irony is that the new gTLDs are prepared for "target" or "local community" only.

    pizzashop.com vs pizza.shop / association = loyalty

    Kind regards
     
  14. hullswingerscom

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    why did google get .How and why don't they push to promote it...

    I just don't understand it.
    any insight to this.?
     
  15. lolwarrior

    lolwarrior Founder, Brands.International Business Account

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    No idea..just reading your post it is first time I realised this extension is even live...only approx 2k registrations so far, and it is more then a year old..
     
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    makes no sense to me why Google would go for .How and do nothing to promote it.
    with their money and know how they could really do something with this..,,,2k reg I ask u
     
  17. lolwarrior

    lolwarrior Founder, Brands.International Business Account

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    I think it might actually have to do something with their future plans..people always asks "how" when they need to get some information, so maybe this extension will be utilized for domains which can be called out by voice commands, etc..

    they have also TLDs like .here or .ing..also lot of possible applications for future, but we will know exactly only after they will reveal their plans, now we can only speculate :)
     
  18. Loxline

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    Dot.How (+ more gTLDs); human intelligence task (HIT) + hidden voice command (HVC) - How Do I Get There = drive.how, walk.how fly.how etc.

    The same rule goes for .ing. (broken) Extension for AI HVC. Fly.ing, Walk.ing

    Artificial intelligence, no more keyboard and mouse. AI is going to essentially kill domain patterns as we know it.
     
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  19. 168

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    this thread is about New "G" usability.
    do you have something productive to contribute ?
     
  20. Registry Services

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    This is almost certainly due to availability - despite the fact that IO has grown rapidly in recent years, its still small compared to NET - so there's still a ton of great names available.

    If dot-AI can sort themselves out and get a decent registry system in with full EPP, I can see a lot of growth potential there.
     
  21. Registry Services

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    I think dot-ING is a waste of time. Fly.ING is meaningless unless you have a destination - flying.home

    I do see the domain landscape changing - personally I like the idea of human readable domain names - like watches·for·sale - as a way of bridging old & new media - basically using a human readable domain name as a web shortener for TV / radio / billboard / post etc - this could lead to the wider adoption of human readable domain names for primary branding.
     
  22. Registry Services

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    I don't see it so much as "half-baked advantages" as more chewing the fat over what new possibilities the nGTLDs open up

    And "Robert.is.enjoying.life" may not get many visitors, but www·facebook·com/robert-montgomery9756 might not either. Personally, I'd stick to three words phrases - so drop the "is".
     
  23. todaygold

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    You're comparing the wrong things there. Neither of those would get any visitors...but something like 'RobertSmith.com' is something your friends can remember. Even 'RobertSmith2017.com' or whatever would be far less confusing than a 4 word, 3 period domain name that ends in something other than .com.
     
  24. Registry Services

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    RobertSmith.com is fine, but you'd have to spend quite a bit to get that kind of domain name, unless you had a really obscure last name - and by the time you've had to concatenate three words and add a dot-COM on the end, personally, I'd prefer the nGTLD -

    I'm not saying it would make a good investment or that the general public are ready for those kind of names, but if the target is some individual who just wants a cute webshortening for his f/b page, then personally I like the human readability you can get with some nGTLDs
     
  25. todaygold

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    Again, that was just an example. The vast majority of people will be able to register FirstLastYear.com...which is far more likely to get friends and family than some obscure extension that no one will remember or even understand is a domain name. If the actual goal is to get people to your Facebook page, then your name and year with .com is more likely to work.
     

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