discuss Why new gtld's exist?

[kite26]

My question is simple.Why all these new gtld's like .beer or .top?In other words why to say company.top when you have topcompany.com?Finally, i am the one who hates all these tld's?

 

[equity78]

You asked why ? ICANN will tell you that they have heard from people for years that they just couldn't get the name they wanted. And by that those people meant, I am pissed that I can't get a short, generic, one word .com that is worth xxx,xxx - x,xxx,xxx for $10. I mean I really have a great idea for Sex.com.

The lightbulb went off at ICANN and they said we can make a lot of money under the auspices of CHOICE. People want choice and we will give it to them. We will make no provisions so companies are not extorted, so give me your .sucks, your .fail and your .gripe. What do the young kids say ? LOL and WTF. Sure why not they shall have it. Parents.WTF should be a great website, a community where spoiled bastards can talk about how their parents only got them a BMW when they really wanted a Ferrari.

Even though we are using the buzzword Choice, we will not stop the registries from thwarting that choice, with restricted lists and ridiculous premium pricing.

So now you don't have choice in 700 extensions as opposed to the 1 people originally cared about.

Now maybe in private communications the reason for the new gtlds was that ICANN wants to buy their own island, because with application fees, last resort auctions, and registration fees, business is good.

 

[Beezy]

Interesting take on this never before discussed topic.

 

[equity78]

I foresee a day when having a .com at the end of your domain will be considered tacky, much like the old marquee and blink html tags of old. Its a no brainer when you can deliver the same message through a domain name and have it be 3 characters less and look much cleaner and less archaic! The only thing keeping .com and .net going strong is the fact that new tlds just aren't fully established yet. Much like when many designers of the past were somewhat reluctant to convert their nested tables over to css and div tags, I feel some domainers are reluctant to concede to the fact that the future changes every niche... Well were looking at this damn future right now!

The problem with that analogy Grego not that there is not some truth to it, but design techniques are different. They are done in different ways, sometimes have a difference of quality or appearance depending on device, browser, etc...

A domain name works the same, Grego.com - Grego.xyz - Grego.Ninja. So now we have to look at the fact that businesses did not want new gtlds, and the public didn't know about them and still doesn't to a large degree.

Creative individuals will make some cool sites with new gtlds, I have no doubt, some start ups may even choose them. But value for a domain investor may not increase.

If there is no liquidity, then what are you doing ? No wholesale market to dump a few off and renew your best etc...

I am not anti new gtld, some make great sense intuitively, but most times when you find those names, they are restricted or premium priced, so I may think a name makes a lot of sense, it is intuitive, but for $3,000 a year or $6,000 that goes out the window. In all honesty how many can a domain investor own at $1,000 a year ?

When Donuts had the one letter names in the first few strings, people loved them, but I know some people who got them, no interest for a year and are not going to pay $260 to renew.

ICANN model different than the registry model, which differs from the registrar model, which all have a better model than the domain investor model.

 

[JB Lions]

I foresee a day when having a .com at the end of your domain will be considered tacky, much like the old marquee and blink html tags of old. Its a no brainer when you can deliver the same message through a domain name and have it be 3 characters less and look much cleaner and less archaic! The only thing keeping .com and .net going strong is the fact that new tlds just aren't fully established yet. Much like when many designers of the past were somewhat reluctant to convert their nested tables over to css and div tags, I feel some domainers are reluctant to concede to the fact that the future changes every niche... Well were looking at this damn future right now!

.com is like sex, pizza, beer etc. It's not going anywhere, will always be dominant. To think that .com with almost 117 million regs, millions of sites is somehow going to take second place to any of these is delusional.

This is what real businesses know. This is why paying a little bit more now, makes financial sense long term.

 

[Grego85]

I foresee a day when having a .com at the end of your domain will be considered tacky, much like the old marquee and blink html tags of old. Its a no brainer when you can deliver the same message through a domain name and have it be 3 characters less and look much cleaner and less archaic! The only thing keeping .com and .net going strong is the fact that new tlds just aren't fully established yet. Much like when many designers of the past were somewhat reluctant to convert their nested tables over to css and div tags, I feel some domainers are reluctant to concede to the fact that the future changes every niche... Well were looking at this damn future right now!

 

[equity78]

Personally I am waiting for the multi-word tlds to arrive. Can't wait for .topfootballwebsite to open up.



I would imagine that over time some form of auction is going to pop up for a lot of these, or prices dropped, or the one off registrations like what happened with .tv. It might take a few years, but as more and more extensions go live, it will become a buyers market, not just a registrar's market.

Tom I believe many will drop prices too, but at what point. People don't like paying $250 a year for 5 years and then see someone else get names they dropped for only $25, you may lose that customer forever.

The notion that any tld should have been priced higher than com/net/org/co.uk/.de is where the nonsense started. Why are they more ? Because like some registries have said, to get back our initial investment. Well domain investors really don't care about that and they shouldn't care about it to pay 10 times a .com for an average extension where the great names are held back.

 

[ealfert]

Can you provide an example of what you define as a "GREAT KEYWORD" new tld domain from your portfolio, and tell us what you paid for it?

I'll provide you with some of my favorites that I have registered, along with yearly renewal cost...

Domain Name, Premium?, Yearly Renewal

academic.work No $ 3.90
adult.click No $ 4.47
adult.guide Premium $ 72.60
adventure.guide Premium $ 108.90
alt.directory Premium $ 22.00
aqua.farm Premium $ 36.30
autoinsurance.exchange Premium $ 36.30
bartender.guide Premium $ 36.30
beacon.network No $ 15.90
beauty.deals Premium $ 36.30
beers.world No $ 23.90
big.guide Premium $ 36.30
boat.exchange Premium $ 72.60
bridal.guide Premium $ 36.30
business.click No $ 4.47
business.exchange Premium $ 72.60
campus.exchange Premium $ 36.30
cannabis.cards Premium $ 108.90
cannabis.help No $ 12.92
cannabis.pub No $ 23.90
cannabis.university Premium $ 72.60
car.exchange Premium $ 220.00
carinsurance.exchange Premium $ 36.30
casino.cash Premium $ 440.00
casino.click No $ 4.47
cgi.actor No $ 31.90
charity.click No $ 4.47
chocolate.direct Premium $ 108.90
chocolates.direct No $ 23.90
cigar.exchange No $ 23.90
cigar.market No $ 23.90
cms.hosting No $ 19.42
coffee.exchange Premium $ 72.60
connect.work No $ 3.90
convention.guide No $ 23.90
cosplay.world No $ 23.90
coupon.exchange Premium $ 72.60
coupon.network Premium $ 36.30
cowork.space No $ 8.70
crowd.work No $ 3.90
custom.work No $ 3.90
cyber.click No $ 4.47
cyber.help No $ 12.92
cyber.hosting No $ 19.42
cyber.work No $ 3.90
daily.work No $ 3.90
deepfried.pizza No $ 39.90
digi.help No $ 12.92
digi.work No $ 3.90
digital.actor Premium $ 33.00
digital.delivery No $ 39.90
domainer.wiki No $ 26.30
domainname.auction Premium $ 66.00
dream.property No $ 19.42
ecofriendly.tips No $ 15.90
electronic.money Premium $ 36.30
enjoy.work No $ 3.90
enterprise.hosting No $ 19.42
exoskeleton.rentals No $ 23.90
extra.work No $ 3.90
fantasy.world Premium $ 220.00
farm.direct Premium $ 36.30
farm.exchange Premium $ 36.30
farmer.exchange No $ 23.90
farmers.exchange Premium $ 36.30
field.guide Premium $ 108.90
fleet.cards Premium $ 36.30
franchise.exchange Premium $ 36.30
free.auction No $ 23.90
frozen.city No $ 15.90
future.world Premium $ 36.30
geek.gifts Premium $ 72.60
geek.guide No $ 23.90
geek.life No $ 23.90
general.work No $ 3.90
gift.guide Premium $ 108.90
greendragon.vodka No $ 23.90
gun.exchange Premium $ 36.30
hackers.guide No $ 23.90
hair.direct No $ 23.90
handi.work No $ 3.90
handy.work No $ 3.90
healthplan.exchange Premium $ 36.30
hemp.consulting No $ 23.90
hemp.exchange No $ 23.90
hemp.haus No $ 23.90
hemp.supply Premium $ 108.90
hidden.space No $ 8.70
ideal.work No $ 3.90
industrial.exchange Premium $ 36.30
insiders.guide Premium $ 72.60
internetofthings.guide No $ 23.90
intimate.toys Premium $ 72.60
iron.work No $ 3.90
knowledge.work No $ 3.90
koifish.farm No $ 23.90
land.exchange Premium $ 36.30
leather.work No $ 3.90
lifestyle.business Premium $ 36.30
lobster.direct No $ 23.90
lobsters.direct No $ 23.90
local.work No $ 3.90
lost.world Premium $ 36.30
mailbox.rentals Premium $ 72.60
managed.care Premium $ 36.30
marijuana.supplies Premium $ 36.30
marijuana.supply Premium $ 36.30
marijuana.university Premium $ 72.60
medi.diet No $ 12.92
medi.help No $ 12.92
medical.guide Premium $ 36.30
mens.work No $ 3.90
metal.work No $ 3.90
micro.work No $ 3.90
military.exchange Premium $ 36.30
military.gifts Premium $ 36.30
modular.parts No $ 23.90
modular.space No $ 8.70
nature.direct No $ 23.90
online.work No $ 3.90
open.business Premium $ 36.30
open.world No $ 23.90
other.world Premium $ 36.30
pearls.direct No $ 23.90
pet.life Premium $ 72.60
pet.memorial Premium $ 108.90
pets.life Premium $ 36.30
poker.click No $ 4.47
pole.fitness Premium $ 108.90
popup.space No $ 8.70
prepaid.legal Premium $ 108.90
privatehealth.exchange Premium $ 36.30
product.exchange Premium $ 36.30
ranch.supply Premium $ 36.30
realestate.exchange Premium $ 36.30
remote.work No $ 3.90
road.work No $ 3.90
safe.click No $ 4.47
second.world No $ 23.90
seed.exchange Premium $ 36.30
selfstorage.space No $ 8.70
sharedoffice.space No $ 8.70
silver.exchange Premium $ 72.60
simple.work No $ 3.90
ski.exchange Premium $ 36.30
ski.guide Premium $ 36.30
slimming.tips No $ 15.90
small.solutions No $ 15.90
smallbusiness.exchange Premium $ 36.30
snipe.auction No $ 23.90
solar.cooking No $ 23.90
specialty.care Premium $ 36.30
sport.exchange Premium $ 72.60
startup.exchange Premium $ 72.60
street.work No $ 3.90
strictly.business No $ 15.90
student.work No $ 3.90
studio.exchange Premium $ 72.60
studio.work No $ 3.90
tech.exchange Premium $ 36.30
tennis.exchange Premium $ 36.30
think.work No $ 3.90
timeshare.exchange Premium $ 72.60
tiny.community No $ 23.90
tiny.construction No $ 23.90
tiny.consulting No $ 23.90
tiny.contractors No $ 23.90
tiny.directory No $ 15.90
tiny.exchange No $ 23.90
tiny.guide No $ 23.90
tiny.works No $ 23.90
tinyhouse.exchange No $ 23.90
tinyhouse.wiki No $ 26.30
toy.exchange Premium $ 72.60
tradecraft.guide No $ 23.90
travelers.guide Premium $ 108.90
tutor.exchange Premium $ 36.30
underwater.city No $ 15.90
usda.mortgage No $ 35.90
vet.direct No $ 23.90
vet.exchange Premium $ 36.30
vip.deals No $ 23.90
virtual.actor Premium $ 33.00
virtual.business Premium $ 108.90
virtual.coach Premium $ 72.60
virtual.life Premium $ 220.00
virtual.supply No $ 15.90
virtual.work No $ 3.90
virtual.world Premium $ 440.00
virtualoffice.space No $ 8.70
virtualreality.bar No $ 71.90
virtualreality.pub No $ 23.90
virtualreality.space No $ 8.70
virtualreality.world No $ 23.90
virtualrealty.agency No $ 15.90
visitor.guide Premium $ 440.00
visual.work No $ 3.90
volunteer.work No $ 3.90
wall.farm No $ 23.90
waterproof.cards No $ 23.90
wedding.exchange Premium $ 36.30
weekend.cruises Premium $ 220.00
weird.world Premium $ 36.30
wellness.exchange Premium $ 36.30
windjammer.cruises Premium $ 220.00
womens.work No $ 3.90
workout.world No $ 23.90

 

[brandnow]

or topcompany.tires

 

[RogueWriter]

Throw the new tld haters a bone, they haven't had a good thread to post their anti-new-tld diatribes in for, like, hours.

Just sayin'.

I'd be willing to bet every penny I own that the domain hotels.com will be worth at least 150 times the value of hotels.xyz in 10 years time.

Replace casino.com with casino.xyz, or loans.com with loans.xyz, or sex.com with sex.xyz if you wish.

Anybody wish to bet against that? Nope..... see, it is that simple.

See, most of the haters just naturally assume you either invest in .coms or you invest in .ngtlds . The point is to invest in GREAT KEYWORDS. So my response to you would be that, if the opportunity arrises to acquire a great keyword in an extension that makes the keyword relevant, you would be foolish NOT to pick the domain up and take a chance.

"Any customer can have a car painted any color he wants so long as it is black." -Henry Ford

Gotta go to an appointment now, guess I will hop in my red and white Ford Flex, and hit the road.

 

[McDuke]

Good luck to you, then. How did .mobi, .biz, .info, .name etc do?

I think you are behind the times, so much so that you're a year+ late posting this argument. :D

I guess you have not seen the 100$-5,000$ flips people are doing. Heck I even had x,xxx offers on a couple of my gtlds a week after i reg'd them...

 

[RogueWriter]

Interesting take on this never before discussed topic.

Throw the new tld haters a bone, they haven't had a good thread to post their anti-new-tld diatribes in for, like, hours.

 

[ChubbyDfat]

I offer up a slightly different opinion.

.COMs are obviously the king extension. I will put out the assertion that they have reached critical mass on the classic "S" curve as far as price goes.

Strictly speaking in ROI terms, I will submit the idea that nTLDs (w)(sh)(c)ould offer up a better return per dollar speculated.
*Let me see if I can clarify that statement before I get the hate mail.*

If you were to purchase "Computer (dot) com" for (for example) at a price of 1 million dollars. Hold onto it for 5 years and then sell it again for 2 million dollars. In ROI terms, you have just made twice your money (or 200%).
That is an awesome deal and damn difficult to be able to find almost anywhere. Two things here (1) you need to have 1 million dollars in order to speculate for this trade. (2) You need to find someone with 2 million dollars in order to buy this trade from you. Its not impossible, its done often enough with premium .COM domains.

Lets take this one step further. You buy the keyword "Computer" in a given (decent) nTLD without the premium price tag for $30. You hold onto it for up to 5 years (total of $150 spent). You sell it after 5 years for a paltry sum of $500. You have made 3.33 times your money or (333% ROI).

In terms of ROI, there are greater sums to be made in nTLDs, *AT THE SAME TIME* there are greater risks.
nTLDs are unproven and more speculative then the stalwarts we know today (i.e. .COM, .NET, .ORG...)

So choose your poison on which one suits you better and go with gusto in making things happen.

NOW to answer the question at large,
Why new gtld's exist?
Its the next obvious step in the evolution of domain names. Shifting focus from the left of the dot to the right of the dot. I would even guess that not too far down the road, people will be buying, selling, and trading entire extension the same as they are doing with individual domains right now.

These are just my thoughts.
Cheers

 

[DomainGist]

I'll provide you with some of my favorites that I have registered, along with yearly renewal cost...

Domain Name, Premium?, Yearly Renewal

academic.work No $ 3.90
adult.click No $ 4.47
adult.guide Premium $ 72.60
adventure.guide Premium $ 108.90
alt.directory Premium $ 22.00
aqua.farm Premium $ 36.30
autoinsurance.exchange Premium $ 36.30
bartender.guide Premium $ 36.30
beacon.network No $ 15.90
beauty.deals Premium $ 36.30
beers.world No $ 23.90
big.guide Premium $ 36.30
boat.exchange Premium $ 72.60
bridal.guide Premium $ 36.30
business.click No $ 4.47
business.exchange Premium $ 72.60
campus.exchange Premium $ 36.30
cannabis.cards Premium $ 108.90
cannabis.help No $ 12.92
cannabis.pub No $ 23.90
cannabis.university Premium $ 72.60
car.exchange Premium $ 220.00
carinsurance.exchange Premium $ 36.30
casino.cash Premium $ 440.00
casino.click No $ 4.47
cgi.actor No $ 31.90
charity.click No $ 4.47
chocolate.direct Premium $ 108.90
chocolates.direct No $ 23.90
cigar.exchange No $ 23.90
cigar.market No $ 23.90
cms.hosting No $ 19.42
coffee.exchange Premium $ 72.60
connect.work No $ 3.90
convention.guide No $ 23.90
cosplay.world No $ 23.90
coupon.exchange Premium $ 72.60
coupon.network Premium $ 36.30
cowork.space No $ 8.70
crowd.work No $ 3.90
custom.work No $ 3.90
cyber.click No $ 4.47
cyber.help No $ 12.92
cyber.hosting No $ 19.42
cyber.work No $ 3.90
daily.work No $ 3.90
deepfried.pizza No $ 39.90
digi.help No $ 12.92
digi.work No $ 3.90
digital.actor Premium $ 33.00
digital.delivery No $ 39.90
domainer.wiki No $ 26.30
domainname.auction Premium $ 66.00
dream.property No $ 19.42
ecofriendly.tips No $ 15.90
electronic.money Premium $ 36.30
enjoy.work No $ 3.90
enterprise.hosting No $ 19.42
exoskeleton.rentals No $ 23.90
extra.work No $ 3.90
fantasy.world Premium $ 220.00
farm.direct Premium $ 36.30
farm.exchange Premium $ 36.30
farmer.exchange No $ 23.90
farmers.exchange Premium $ 36.30
field.guide Premium $ 108.90
fleet.cards Premium $ 36.30
franchise.exchange Premium $ 36.30
free.auction No $ 23.90
frozen.city No $ 15.90
future.world Premium $ 36.30
geek.gifts Premium $ 72.60
geek.guide No $ 23.90
geek.life No $ 23.90
general.work No $ 3.90
gift.guide Premium $ 108.90
greendragon.vodka No $ 23.90
gun.exchange Premium $ 36.30
hackers.guide No $ 23.90
hair.direct No $ 23.90
handi.work No $ 3.90
handy.work No $ 3.90
healthplan.exchange Premium $ 36.30
hemp.consulting No $ 23.90
hemp.exchange No $ 23.90
hemp.haus No $ 23.90
hemp.supply Premium $ 108.90
hidden.space No $ 8.70
ideal.work No $ 3.90
industrial.exchange Premium $ 36.30
insiders.guide Premium $ 72.60
internetofthings.guide No $ 23.90
intimate.toys Premium $ 72.60
iron.work No $ 3.90
knowledge.work No $ 3.90
koifish.farm No $ 23.90
land.exchange Premium $ 36.30
leather.work No $ 3.90
lifestyle.business Premium $ 36.30
lobster.direct No $ 23.90
lobsters.direct No $ 23.90
local.work No $ 3.90
lost.world Premium $ 36.30
mailbox.rentals Premium $ 72.60
managed.care Premium $ 36.30
marijuana.supplies Premium $ 36.30
marijuana.supply Premium $ 36.30
marijuana.university Premium $ 72.60
medi.diet No $ 12.92
medi.help No $ 12.92
medical.guide Premium $ 36.30
mens.work No $ 3.90
metal.work No $ 3.90
micro.work No $ 3.90
military.exchange Premium $ 36.30
military.gifts Premium $ 36.30
modular.parts No $ 23.90
modular.space No $ 8.70
nature.direct No $ 23.90
online.work No $ 3.90
open.business Premium $ 36.30
open.world No $ 23.90
other.world Premium $ 36.30
pearls.direct No $ 23.90
pet.life Premium $ 72.60
pet.memorial Premium $ 108.90
pets.life Premium $ 36.30
poker.click No $ 4.47
pole.fitness Premium $ 108.90
popup.space No $ 8.70
prepaid.legal Premium $ 108.90
privatehealth.exchange Premium $ 36.30
product.exchange Premium $ 36.30
ranch.supply Premium $ 36.30
realestate.exchange Premium $ 36.30
remote.work No $ 3.90
road.work No $ 3.90
safe.click No $ 4.47
second.world No $ 23.90
seed.exchange Premium $ 36.30
selfstorage.space No $ 8.70
sharedoffice.space No $ 8.70
silver.exchange Premium $ 72.60
simple.work No $ 3.90
ski.exchange Premium $ 36.30
ski.guide Premium $ 36.30
slimming.tips No $ 15.90
small.solutions No $ 15.90
smallbusiness.exchange Premium $ 36.30
snipe.auction No $ 23.90
solar.cooking No $ 23.90
specialty.care Premium $ 36.30
sport.exchange Premium $ 72.60
startup.exchange Premium $ 72.60
street.work No $ 3.90
strictly.business No $ 15.90
student.work No $ 3.90
studio.exchange Premium $ 72.60
studio.work No $ 3.90
tech.exchange Premium $ 36.30
tennis.exchange Premium $ 36.30
think.work No $ 3.90
timeshare.exchange Premium $ 72.60
tiny.community No $ 23.90
tiny.construction No $ 23.90
tiny.consulting No $ 23.90
tiny.contractors No $ 23.90
tiny.directory No $ 15.90
tiny.exchange No $ 23.90
tiny.guide No $ 23.90
tiny.works No $ 23.90
tinyhouse.exchange No $ 23.90
tinyhouse.wiki No $ 26.30
toy.exchange Premium $ 72.60
tradecraft.guide No $ 23.90
travelers.guide Premium $ 108.90
tutor.exchange Premium $ 36.30
underwater.city No $ 15.90
usda.mortgage No $ 35.90
vet.direct No $ 23.90
vet.exchange Premium $ 36.30
vip.deals No $ 23.90
virtual.actor Premium $ 33.00
virtual.business Premium $ 108.90
virtual.coach Premium $ 72.60
virtual.life Premium $ 220.00
virtual.supply No $ 15.90
virtual.work No $ 3.90
virtual.world Premium $ 440.00
virtualoffice.space No $ 8.70
virtualreality.bar No $ 71.90
virtualreality.pub No $ 23.90
virtualreality.space No $ 8.70
virtualreality.world No $ 23.90
virtualrealty.agency No $ 15.90
visitor.guide Premium $ 440.00
visual.work No $ 3.90
volunteer.work No $ 3.90
wall.farm No $ 23.90
waterproof.cards No $ 23.90
wedding.exchange Premium $ 36.30
weekend.cruises Premium $ 220.00
weird.world Premium $ 36.30
wellness.exchange Premium $ 36.30
windjammer.cruises Premium $ 220.00
womens.work No $ 3.90
workout.world No $ 23.90

I really like some of those, but if wouldn't be impertinent for me to say so, what with opinions being subjective...... you can in a broad sense REALLY tell the difference in quality between the premium and the rest.

I mean.... weekend.cruise, car.exchange, etc, are good examples of the small number of new TLDs which I think could see a good ROI one day. But just those two examples alone cost you $440 to register already.

There are some good examples at lower price points, vet.direct is a nice one, for a vet directory or one of those paid q&a sites (e.g. help my dog is really ill, I need a vet to give me advice for $20), or even a store for vet meds / supplies./

There are other examples that I just don't understand the attraction to, e.g. knowledge.work

There are 1000 new TLDs according to somebody up thread, where is knowledge.work going to rank in order of most desirable to somebody who really wants a knowledge domain?

knowledge.academy
knowledge.club
knowledge.center
knowledge.expert
knowledge.foundation
knowledge.careers
knowledge.guru
knowledge.institute

etc, etc, etc...... don't you think investing so much in mediocre TLDs is a huge risk solely on the basis that it will be a buyers market, with every generic having hundreds of options, attached to hundreds of domainers who are all looking to recoup their investment?

 

[Omar Negron]

.com is like sex, pizza, beer etc. It's not going anywhere, will always be dominant. To think that .com with almost 117 million regs, millions of sites is somehow going to take second place to any of these is delusional.

This is what real businesses know. This is why paying a little bit more now, makes financial sense long term.

GREAT INFO! Love that pic and the stats it displays.

Based on what I've read a big reason new GTLD's are continuing to come out on the market is because they make the registrars loads of MONEY.

 

[DomainGist]

Your portfolio of new TLDs is one of the better one's I've seen, I'll say that, and wouldn't surprise me at all if you have 4 or 5 domains in there which could see you spin a profit on their strength alone.

As for some of the other portfolio's I've seen on namepros...... quite a few people burning a hell of a lot of cash on junk.

 

[ealfert]

It's funny how all the .work domains you registered are ones that I pre-reg'd too at multiple registrars. That was an exciting time in February. haha I remember you mentioning about local work and Mr. Domains, I wonder though did you get most of these .work with Mr. Domain's "dumb" system?

Yes, the .work launch was a fiasco. I got lucky that mrdomain.com didn't understand that the domains were not available and kept trying to register them. When they finally became available, one day after launch, I was the only one with a registrar that was still trying to get them. Thank you mrdomain.com!!!

 

[wwwweb]

I'll provide you with some of my favorites that I have registered, along with yearly renewal cost...

Domain Name, Premium?, Yearly Renewal

academic.work No $ 3.90
adult.click No $ 4.47
adult.guide Premium $ 72.60
adventure.guide Premium $ 108.90
alt.directory Premium $ 22.00
aqua.farm Premium $ 36.30
autoinsurance.exchange Premium $ 36.30
bartender.guide Premium $ 36.30
beacon.network No $ 15.90
beauty.deals Premium $ 36.30
beers.world No $ 23.90
big.guide Premium $ 36.30
boat.exchange Premium $ 72.60
bridal.guide Premium $ 36.30
business.click No $ 4.47
business.exchange Premium $ 72.60
campus.exchange Premium $ 36.30
cannabis.cards Premium $ 108.90
cannabis.help No $ 12.92
cannabis.pub No $ 23.90
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This is a well thought out use of the GTLD's, but with an annual cost of renewals reaching $9,000 for approx 200 domains, not including what you paid in EAP, you are about $20,000 invested into these above terms after Year 2 renewal.

Say you sell at a 3% sell thru rate on this portfolio you will need to sell 6 domains at $1,500 each just to break even each year. You really need to hit a home run with one, otherwise you are just diluting your quality names, until you are left with a lower tier with a lower sell thru rate. Take into consideration a 3% sell thru rate on a portfolio is very high for GTLD's at this point in the game with the better launches still to come.

This is a very calculated investment.

 

[marillion9]

A random opinion about new gTLDs

I find it a battle for our customers to remember our company's name, now image if they had to remember our name + TLD.... That would be double the marketing effort....

And the what happens if a competitor snaps up our .COM ? And we are stuck with a .me, .paris or whatever....

Doesn't make any business sense...

 

[brandnow]

Interesting take on this never before discussed topic.

I LOL'd

 

[RU]

What about top.company?)

 

[Hypersot]

Although new tld's can be useful at future (personally i find best.beer so useful as bestbeer.com), i 'm thinking that it can be harmful for the domain industry itself & to us the domain investors.The value of a premium domain will be reduced.Premiums will not be premiums and more...

There will always be the 'better' domains and the 'worse' domains

 

[RogueWriter]

Personally I am waiting for the multi-word tlds to arrive. Can't wait for .topfootballwebsite to open up.

I am not anti new gtld, some make great sense intuitively, but most times when you find those names, they are restricted or premium priced, so I may think a name makes a lot of sense, it is intuitive, but for $3,000 a year or $6,000 that goes out the window. In all honesty how many can a domain investor own at $1,000 a year ?

I would imagine that over time some form of auction is going to pop up for a lot of these, or prices dropped, or the one off registrations like what happened with .tv. It might take a few years, but as more and more extensions go live, it will become a buyers market, not just a registrar's market.

 

[NameYourself]

Why? Here is the short answer. It makes ICANN money!

It makes ICANN money whether they succeed or fail, on the basis that..
It will make registries money, on the basis that..
It will make registrars money, on the basis that..
It will make registrants money, on the basis that..
Someone someday will buy it at a premium OR an end-user will pay the already premium renewal fees.

Either way, ICANN still makes money, a lot of it, and so will most registries.

What's next?

Once they've made the money from the initial intro you will see price wars and registry auctions.

 

[DomainGist]

Finally, i am the one who hates all these tld's?

Nope. I also hate them, and think most will fail.

Can't believe I'm seeing people spend thousands on them, a pure gamble.

I wonder if these people know that new tld's have happened before and failed before.....

Ever heard of .museum? Been around since 2001, there are just 600 domains registered at a cost of $100 per year, and almost every single one simply forwards to a .com, lol. I expect the same to happen to some/many of these new tld's.

.ws and .mobi are all very old too....... the only example of a semi-successful new gtld has been .info? Many many more have simply failed?

.biz was launched to "provide relief" to the .com, didn't work out too well did it?

Honestly think that rather than spending $60 on mediocre.crap, people would be better off collecting 5 & 6 letter pronounceable .com's.

 

[brandnow]

I am thinking to develop fun and silly sites on .xyz. I think that is probably .xyz's greatest use. I like .xyz because I have a few good names. I really want to do something with them.

I believe it has got to be possible to develop good web sites using .xyz. It's short, generic, popular (for ngtlds), etc. I have just struggled with what kind of sites to develop until recently when I realized that .xyz sites should be more casual and fun.