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Why Google Page Rank Does Not Matter

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Having been a webmaster for a while now, I’ve started, been through and come out the other side of the proverbial Google Pagerank tunnel. Having been in this world, I now understand how little Google Page Rank (PR) matters. If PR does matter, then you will always be limited in what you can achieve. If you are selling links to gain PR, then Google will eventually catch up with you and kill the pagerank of your site. That means your source of income dies off with your site’s loss of green magic.

With the recent change in policy of Google against sites selling paid links to pass PR, it further highlights the issue that Google PR is an arbitrary and insignificant measure. Ironically, Google’s solution for paid links is an abuse of W3C standards in its own right. This policy that has been well argued for months now, with a great commentary from Andy Beard, a venting from James Morris and speculation that Yahoo are happy with paid links.

I won’t argue the issue with paid links here, but here are some reasons why Google Pagerank is not important.
1) Pagerank means nothing!

Google PR is a measure of how important Google considers your site to be (i.e. not the general web community). The detail of the calculation has been speculated for years. However, it roughly translates to the number of high quality websites that link to your website. What “high quality” means is also speculated, which helps to support my idea that its worthless. Pagerank only has real value to Google.
2) What he shall provide, he can taketh away

Google Page Rank is calculated, owned and controlled by Google. Do something they don’t like, and you lose it. I intentionally said what Google doesn’t like, as opposed to something that is actually wrong.

Paid links are a matter of debate, but they are certainly not wrong. Paid links can contribute to how important something is, though it is open to abuse. But then everything is open to abuse to some degree. It needs control, but Google is not the one to enforce it. Sorry, I said I wouldn’t debate paid links!

3) Focus on Pagerank, lose sight of your visitors

Making the assumption that Pagerank doesn’t matter, then any effort or time dedicated to PR is being wasted. That time should be focused on your website visitors, clients, customers or whoever your target audience is. Unless you have visitors to your site, there’s no point having a website really. Time could be better spent on content, design, or even improving your advert placements to boost your earnings. Even focusing on your adverts is better than pagerank!
Conclusion

So my reasoning that page rank doesn’t matter is because its an arbitrary measurement that you have no real control over that doesn’t realistically improve your earnings or website traffic.

As soon as you start depending your business model on pagerank (such as paid blog posts or links), then you will eventually lose your revenue stream when Google penalises your site for selling paid links to pass page rank. If you do successfully sell links based on page rank, there’s only so many links you can sell before you run out of link space, and therefore a limit on your earnings. If your business model depends on visitors, and traffic building is your priority, then you will have a reliable revenue stream. And theoretically, there’s no limit to your earnings as the number of visitors to your site increases.

I’ve tried selling paid links and got caught out in the end. By focusing on traffic rather than pagerank, my regular revenue was massively increased.

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You're exactly right. People in my opinion can go over the top worrying about increasing their pagerank and losing sight of their actual visitors. But at the end of the day its the quality of your site which will get you return visitors and make you money.
 
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I find it useful for making quick judgments about the quality of the competition in a niche I am thinking of entering. If no one on the first page of search results has a toolbar PR above 2, I know what to do to get there myself :)
 
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1) pagerank actually does have meaning.

2) your "true" pagerank often isn't really taken away at all, even if though your tbpr might be displayed as zero if you're buying/selling links.

3) you should definitely pay attention to delivering the best user experience before improving your pagerank, but to say that pagerank doesn't matter would be misleading because it can affect indexing.

so the reasoning isn't that logical (imho). pagerank is not an arbitrary measurement, you have no control over the sun either (although it matters), and selling links (not suggested) can be highly lucrative.

i would suggest reading this to those of you with "seo this" and "seo that" in your signatures.

i agree with the general idea that marketing to the user experience should be much more important than pagerank, but as i said, to say it doesn't matter (or at least for the "reasons" outlined in the thread opener), would be incorrect (imho). :blink:
 
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Thanks for sharing your opinions!
 
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Hmmn I respectfully disagree. One of the biggest and most easily demonstrable factors of an existing website to me will be Google rank simply to base a hypothesis of what the end user's experience of any given site will be. So while the ranking report alone may not be "of value", in context of driving traffic, interested visitrs and participants to a site i must say Google page rank does have value.
 
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I do feel that this is the trick of Google to make every website to by judge by the PR in webmaster community. If you will see with the view of general public than for them PR or Alexa rankings are irrelevant, they want just good contain.

But webmaster community is giving them extra weight.

If you are into the buying and selling of websites than this is quite important to you. This one is important to them who are into the business of buying and selling links.
 
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Yeah, don't really agree with the OP. Pagerank is a convenient term used to describe something very complicated - the underlying stucture of the hyperlinks that underpin the web. Which is, of course, VERY important. As backlinks are far harder to 'fake' than onsite factors, they are likely to ALWAYS be more important than anything else. Unless Google's latest attempt to turn everyone into unpaid site evaluators (up, delete buttons on search pages) actually works (don't think it will...)
 
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you rank will going up with lot of visitor came, and it doesn't matters actually as long its earn you a bucks .. :D
 
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The only benefit I can see for pagerank is if you intend to resell the domain
 
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Page rank can be ultimately deceptive anyway. A high pagerank with low traffic can be suicidal, but if you have a ton of traffic and your PR is 0, it really doesn't matter what Google says. Afterall there are more ways to market your site than just through the search engines. I'm not saying it isn't important, but give me a PR 0 in Alexa top 100k over a PR4 in the 15million mark anyday.
 
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PR = overated
Really I think that only reason that Google keeps the PR alive is to give webmasters a reason to download their toolbar. If Google canned the PR how many people would use it? Probably not many. So I think it's there for viewing pleasure more than anything.

I have been making a living online for 12 years now. Never had a site over a PR-3... ever.
 
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Shockie briefly hinted at this earlier, but there are two different kinds of page rank:

Google's internal PageRank(tm) - constantly updated, based on several factors and you'll never know what it is. Per google themselves:

PageRank is the importance Google assigns to a page based on an automatic calculation that factors in the link structure of the web and many other variables.

Toolbar PageRank - the green pixels. Periodically updated, an indication of the actual PageRank based upon inbound links to the page.

Actual PageRank = good to cultivate
Toolbar PageRank (TBPR) = don't worry about it. Thanks to the history of abuse of this metric (buying/selling links to get TBPR), it isn't very meaningful.

Actual PageRank has bearing on search results, but it's not visible to us.

A more relevant page for a particular query can easily outrank one with higher TBPR.
 
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