.mobi Why are companies using long .com URL's when mobile phone users bookmark *Wonder*hehe

[satsdifference.com]

It doesn't really make sense.. but I guess there is some reason..

Amazon.mobi (cool site) ---------> http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/h.html/002-3758616-3976054

The mobile phone is alot about bookmarking, so if they ever decide to change to a permanent URL for bookmarks, marketing best practices would point to it being done right away.. (for greater customers' growth)

..like URL "amazon.mobi"

..with faster and faster mobile phone growth (with internet) in the U.S., it's hard to see in not happening sometime soon, frankly.

We'll see



Kind Regards,

`hachoo

 

[scandiman]

Is Amtrak.mobi a developed .MOBI website? :gl:

Sure is, see for yourself. Or unless you'd prefer to type the redirect, here it is:

mobile.usablenet.com/mt/www.amtrak.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Amtrak/HomePage

So Amtrak contracted with a mobile content provider to dev and host their site. Big deal? How does this take away from .mobi? It's just so sad to see the same old junk being debated here over and over again. It's such a misrepresentation of the facts when you say this adds nothing to .mobi.

 

[hawkeye]

Jeff,......


awhh.., forget it!!

 

[scandiman]

Jeff,......


awhh.., forget it!!

Yes, many have thrown in the towel and moved on as you well know.

 

[Jeff]

It's all good ...

It's just so sad to see the same old junk being debated here over and over again. It's such a misrepresentation of the facts when you say this adds nothing to .mobi.

Yes, many have thrown in the towel and moved on as you well know.

Paul, c'mon now, friend ... don't be so dramatic! :bah:

How am I, exactly, misrepresenting the fact that it's not a developed .MOBI website, but rather a redirect to a .COM? It's not what I personally consider to be part of the developed "ecosystem" ... this is MY opinion. You don't have to agree with it, no one does ... but it's definitely worth discussing openly and even sharing differing opinions, IMHO. Why do we all have to be always on the same side - "rah rah" - with respect to .MOBI ... some things we might agree on, others not so much.
No worries.

It's been nearly one YEAR since .MOBI has come out ... let's skip the drama and move on the the substance! When will Amtrak develop its own stand-alone .MOBI and start promoting it in the mainstream? When will mTLD "backer" Google do same? When will the RFP's be announced ... and then be similarly developed and promoted? Why am I, seemingly, lately (at least since my vacation in Maine) the biggest fan of the developed "ecosystem"? :gl: :talk:
Weird. :blink: :imho:

Thanks for understanding.
-Jeff

 

[hawkeye]

....Why am I, seemingly, lately (at least since my vacation in Maine) the biggest fan of the developed "ecosystem"? :gl: :talk:
Weird. :blink: :imho:

Thanks for understanding.
-Jeff

BINGO!!!!

The thing is, we don't!!!

 

[seanboy]

Nevermind..

 

[scandiman]

Paul, c'mon now, friend ... don't be so dramatic! :bah:

How am I, exactly, misrepresenting the fact that it's not a developed .MOBI website, but rather a redirect to a .COM? It's not what I personally consider to be part of the developed "ecosystem" ... this is MY opinion. You don't have to agree with it, no one does ... but it's definitely worth discussing openly and even sharing differing opinions, IMHO. Why do we all have to be always on the same side - "rah rah" - with respect to .MOBI ... some things we might agree on, others not so much.
No worries.

If you visit Amtrak.mobi you get info about Amtrak. I call that development. You can even book a seat on a train if you'd like. Amtrak is in the passenger train business not web development so they hired a mobile web development company to build and host content for Amtrak.mobi. Oh, and if you cared to check, none of the other "mobile" url's work, visit m.amtrak.com and you'll be greeted with Server not found. The destination URL is irrelevant, it's some routing deep into their content management system. If you can't understand that this is a developed site then you are off your rocker. To continue to debate this ad nauseum for months is a total waste of my time and is in fact not worth discussing over and over and over and over and over again.

It's been nearly one YEAR since .MOBI has come out ... let's skip the drama and move on the the substance! When will Amtrak develop its own stand-alone .MOBI and start promoting it in the mainstream? When will mTLD "backer" Google do same? When will the RFP's be announced ... and then be similarly developed and promoted? Why am I, seemingly, lately (at least since my vacation in Maine) the biggest fan of the developed "ecosystem"? :gl: :talk:
Weird. :blink: :imho:

I'm not dramatic, I'm serious. I'm serious about furthering the .mobi tld by building sites and helping others build sites. Why? Because I'm seriously invested in it and am working to make it grow and it is in fact growing. You're not even close to the biggest fan of developed .mobi's. That would require actually doing it. Those who are doing it have sought refuge elsewhere to have constructive dialog without being told repeatedly that at best their site will serve only a small niche as a result of their tld. People are building sites and earning real money. Thats the substance I care about, not wasting more time debating the skeptics again and again.

 

[Keith]

If you visit Amtrak.mobi you get info about Amtrak. I call that development. You can even book a seat on a train if you'd like. Amtrak is in the passenger train business not web development so they hired a mobile web development company to build and host content for Amtrak.mobi. Oh, and if you cared to check, none of the other "mobile" url's work, visit m.amtrak.com and you'll be greeted with Server not found. The destination URL is irrelevant, it's some routing deep into their content management system. If you can't understand that this is a developed site then you are off your rocker. To continue to debate this ad nauseum for months is a total waste of my time and is in fact not worth discussing over and over and over and over and over again.



I'm not dramatic, I'm serious. I'm serious about furthering the .mobi tld by building sites and helping others build sites. Why? Because I'm seriously invested in it and am working to make it grow and it is in fact growing. You're not even close to the biggest fan of developed .mobi's. That would require actually doing it. Those who are doing it have sought refuge elsewhere to have constructive dialog without being told repeatedly that at best their site will serve only a small niche as a result of their tld. People are building sites and earning real money. Thats the substance I care about, not wasting more time debating the skeptics again and again.

Your always on the money Scandi! Thanks for representing mobi

 

[seanboy]

When will Amtrak develop its own stand-alone .MOBI and start promoting it in the mainstream?

I don't know, when will they?

http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/Conte...ase_Page&c=am2Copy&cid=1178240116611&ssid=180

 

[Pred]

If you visit Amtrak.mobi you get info about Amtrak. I call that development. You can even book a seat on a train if you'd like. Amtrak is in the passenger train business not web development so they hired a mobile web development company to build and host content for Amtrak.mobi. Oh, and if you cared to check, none of the other "mobile" url's work, visit m.amtrak.com and you'll be greeted with Server not found. The destination URL is irrelevant, it's some routing deep into their content management system. If you can't understand that this is a developed site then you are off your rocker. To continue to debate this ad nauseum for months is a total waste of my time and is in fact not worth discussing over and over and over and over and over again.



I'm not dramatic, I'm serious. I'm serious about furthering the .mobi tld by building sites and helping others build sites. Why? Because I'm seriously invested in it and am working to make it grow and it is in fact growing. You're not even close to the biggest fan of developed .mobi's. That would require actually doing it. Those who are doing it have sought refuge elsewhere to have constructive dialog without being told repeatedly that at best their site will serve only a small niche as a result of their tld. People are building sites and earning real money. Thats the substance I care about, not wasting more time debating the skeptics again and again.

nice post Scandi, rep added

 

[Jeff]

If you can't understand that this is a developed site then you are off your rocker.

It is most certainly not a developed .MOBI website, it's a reserved .MOBI domain name simply being redirected to the .COM website ... but let's agree to disagree (free to do here, by the way) and move along! :yell: :talk:

People are building sites and earning real money. Thats the substance I care about, not wasting more time debating the skeptics again and again.

Every single time, without fail, that I see someone here at the #1 Namepros .MOBI Forum™ digging in and developing their .MOBI's I applaud and congratulate ... as I'm a HUGE supporter of developed .MOBI's and the often referred to "ecosystem", IMHO. The substance from mTLD has not supported these pioneers in the matters of growing the "ecosystem" with RFP's and their own 1,000's of reserved/premium domains, in my view ... and that, Sir, is a crying shame! :yell:

Please, do me a personal favor ... take off those pretty, rose-colored .MOBI Glasses™ for a moment ... and let's work together to get some REAL input and movement & support from mTLD to reassure and back-up these hard-working, intelligent .MOBI individuals and developers! :talk:

Thank you kindly,
-Jeff

 

[namewaiter]

hmmm.... http://amtrak.mobi doesn't forward to www.amtrak.com , so what is 'the' .com you speak of Jeff?

or even amtrak.anything for that matter .... this is their developed and promoted mobile website ... if it smells like a site and looks like a site...

 

[Jeff]

... if it smells like a site and looks like a site ...

It smells like they could care less, at present, about actually developing their reserved .MOBI domain, IMHO.
Can we work together to change this, friends?

Please visit Amtrak.com for the following:

Q. Do I need to enter a special URL in order to reach the mobile friendly Amtrak site?

A. No, just type in Amtrak.com. The technology employed will automatically read the device from which you are making the request and provide you with the information in the correct format.

Goodnight for now. :zzz:
-Jeff

 

[scandiman]

It is most certainly not a developed .MOBI website, it's a reserved .MOBI domain name simply being redirected to the .COM website ... but let's agree to disagree (free to do here, by the way) and move along! :yell: :talk:

Please take note folks, don't bother using Amtrak.mobi since it is not developed. Jeff says so.
The only valid URL is: mobile.usablenet.com/mt/www.amtrak.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Amtrak/HomePage

Please, do me a personal favor ... take off those pretty, rose-colored .MOBI Glasses™ for a moment ... and let's work together to get some REAL input and movement & support from mTLD to reassure and back-up these hard-working, intelligent .MOBI individuals and developers! :talk:

It's funny how you lace a peace offering with a personal insult and a stab at mTLD. There is nothing obscuring my vision, I'm simply focused on building things while you're in denial of the facts. mTLD is doing REAL work to support developers. Dev.mobi, Ready.mobi, Site.mobi, and their upcoming device database initiative. All being done and run by mTLD. You're the one with obscured vision, the facts keep presenting themselves but you want to get all hung up on silly arguments over redirects or that Pinky didn't revisit NP and divulge private information. That kind of noise is something I can't work around, but since your free here to hammer away, I'll go someplace quieter and get some work done. Have fun!

 

[seanboy]

It smells like they could care less, at present, about actually developing their reserved .MOBI domain, IMHO.
Can we work together to change this, friends?

Please visit Amtrak.com for the following:


Goodnight for now. :zzz:
-Jeff

I was going to write something, but right now I'm a little dizzy from the spin.

 

[-REECE-]

It smells like they could care less, at present, about actually developing their reserved .MOBI domain, IMHO.
Can we work together to change this, friends?

Please visit Amtrak.com for the following:


Goodnight for now. :zzz:
-Jeff

I'll be honest. I've felt the whole time (even since before .mobi even launched) that reserving that many premiums could not possibly be quantified as anything other than a moneygrab.

Reality is that top quality names (like sex.com, porn.com, poker.com, cars.com,...) eventually end up in the hands of good endusers at least 50% of the time. So mtld really is accomplishing nothing by reserving them, other than perhaps allowing a regular domainer (like me) a chance to own a great name that I could never afford otherwise, provided I can submit a good proposal.

However, as noble as this sounds... Let's face reality here. Is Reece from Namepros a better developer for food.mobi than food.com? Will Reece from Namepros (and maybe a few friends) ever be capable of submitting a proposal in the same league as The Food Network? Hell no. In all honesty, Reece from Namepros does not deserve that name.

Now let's look at this from the other side of things... Is paying $100,000 up front from a domainer for the name versus say paying mtld an RFP fee and promising to do some promotion really going to make or break them?

So what's really being accomplished... Nothing. By reserving these names and refusing to develop them, or otherwise allow others to develop them, mtld is essentially hindering their own extension. Based on the parking success (relative) I've had with my undeveloped names, I'd venture to guess mtld is getting 1-2 mm hits daily. All going to waste. What a shame...

Want to convince companies to sign up for .mobis? What better way is there than sending them a link to their competitors .mobi? Look what we have with the banks... Free up some decent gems so that industry leaders, like the Food Network, just might be interested in securing their name. And taking out the "we can take our name back at any time for any reason" clause just might help things a bit :imho:

 

[satsdifference.com]

..hopping around the internet

back to domainer land..

let's all be uplifting, if we can try harder, to everyone

MTLD etc..

I look around, US at least, and most phones don't even have internet yet..

So I think, when the floodgates open, the Ark being blueprinted will surface (RFP)..

On the RFP, do some people, seemingly afraid of .mobi, wanted RFP to be rushed because it is a threat? I think now that cause is being flipped from those stanced this way, earlier, to the recognition that we need one internet, together.. the whole world..

Pizza.mobi indicator for 21,000 was alot and a little at the same time.. what's going on.. who knows..

On the RFP, I am kinda appreciative that it was done.. I mean what if some rich domainer had bought all of them in landrush? This is today's precedent for domaining's current evolution with respect to ICANN's Defense..

Because the longer they are held, frankly, the greater things become in particular for us grassroots .mobi domainers.. how well can hachoo.mobi with worldradio.mobi compete when some gargantuan radio network gets radio.mobi?

Selling .mobi domains early will give you fish for awhile, a Yahoo.com in the mid 90's developed site hope can transform lives for a lifetime..

Time is precious

I am for our ecosystem as well..

I see the reality as an opportunity, and not so much hypothetical situations.. doing best with what HE provides for us, at the Present..

Still.. looking at the immediate picture and the larger picture at the same time..

I do agree, though, that discussion here is more and more fruitful when there is upliftment towards all sides.. I try to keep cutting things in the middle, but must do better =I

Amtrak.com/efagsadgsdag/sdfgsadfgsadg/sadgsaddbvg I think is an intentional statement.. I mean, why not just amtrak.com/asdasd/asdsad

hehehe! I love it though..

Time to clean my computer,

...

Well, time for another Cadence, friends


`hachoo