Who would pay for this?

[thelensboss]

hey guys...

just curious if anyone would pay for a software that finds end users and automatically sends emails to them?

as in you input the domain, and it will generate leads for you and you can send emails with it.

web based subscription per month?

 

[infosec3]

hey guys...

just curious if anyone would pay for a software that finds end users and automatically sends emails to them?

as in you input the domain, and it will generate leads for you and you can send emails with it.

web based subscription per month?

Sounds interesting. However, who will be the receipients of these emails? Just people who opt-in for lists that are not related to domain sales or potential real end-users?

 

[RazorNF]

Like infosec3 mentioned, it would depend on how these end-users are gathared.

Opt-ins are ok. But if they are getting unsolicited emails, then the sender is only asking for trouble.

 

[Kate]

I already receive enough domain-related spam, so...
I think that kind of tool will be used to push the poor domains that nobody wants.

 

[daj]

Are you just finding possible end users via google or a whois search? Because anyone can do that for free...

 

[thelensboss]

this would be real potential end users

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I already receive enough domain-related spam, so...
I think that kind of tool will be used to push the poor domains that nobody wants.

I didn't ask that.

I asked if you would pay for something that allows you to find end users based on your domain name, and then contact them automatically (with options to check off whihc end users to actually send emails to)

 

[alien51]

How can your software determine if a domain owner is an end-user?

If i'm a potential buyer of your software, i must know how your software determines an "end-user". Otherwise, i could be paying for something that doesn't actually work based on its advertised intention.

 

[Tia Wood]

I'm sure some people would pay but I would be weary that a tool like this would be labeled as a spam tool?

 

[thelensboss]

Not really.

Would it be?

I mean you are targeting people with a direct communication for something that will help them or at least one person out of the 20 you contact

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How can your software determine if a domain owner is an end-user?

If i'm a potential buyer of your software, i must know how your software determines an "end-user". Otherwise, i could be paying for something that doesn't actually work based on its advertised intention.

It determines an end user through being on google, yahoo, bing, etc. for the keywords.

you will then be able to check off which ones you want to contact or not...like you could uncheck a major site like wikipedia, facebook, amazon, etc. if it shows up for your keywords...

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Are you just finding possible end users via google or a whois search? Because anyone can do that for free...

Yea but who wants to contact like 25+ end users individually.

The software finds them for you, allows you to check off which ones you want to send emails to and then you can send out an email to them...

 

[wibisoul]

Not promising to me

Well.. to me sending out few emails is not going to work for selling. And sending bulk emails would turn into a spam act.

Actually it depends on the list. if the list is highly targeted then only the tool is promising. otherwise its useless will cause trouble.

 

[wot]

No

 

[promo]

Well already two services exist to my knowledge..

Estibots lead generator:
http://www.estibot.com/leads.php

Exprons end user genie:
http://endusergenie.com

I have used both to some success, but as other mentions they should not be used to spam.

 

[Domainace]

I'm not too impressed by the existing software, and I doubt you could improve on it. In addition to the spam issues, there are these:

1- It will be inaccurate, missing prime end-users and suggesting people who would have no use for the name. Unless you have a brilliant new program that even Estibot couldn't think of (and he's a neurosurgeon if I recall correctly).
2- The emails will be harvested either from whois or a company's website. Many of those contacts will not be the decision makers you'll want to reach. That means many of the emails will be going to a company that might want my domain name, but it will end up in the trash bin of some employee and never be seen.

Both of these problems could be corrected by manually checking the list, of course. But that means almost as much work as not using the software at all, so we're back to square one.

I just don't think this is something that could be done by software.

Add to this that most lead generation in businesses except domaining is done by each lead indicating an interest in the product or the problem it can solve at some point (by opt-in or some other response).

I think a half dozen hand chosen end-users are better than 200 end users identified by software.

But maybe you have something new and brilliant. If you can explain it here and answer the issues above I would be interested.

 

[enlytend]

Sounds too much like Unsolicited Bulk Email to me...

- Sending a first-contact enquiry is OK.

- Sending virtually identicals emails to a bunch of different recipients (like a newsletter) can be OK.

Combining the two makes it spam, and can get the sender in all kinds of trouble. For that reason, I wouldn't use it.

 

[alien51]

problems could be corrected by manually checking the list, of course. But that means almost as much work as not using the software at all, so we're back to square one.

Back to square one, in terms of effort. But financial-wise, you lose out because you paid for the software and you got little return-of-investment for what you paid for.

I think a half dozen hand chosen end-users are better than 200 end users identified by software.

I'm also not quite sure if the software would consider minisite-makers as "end-users" as well, because there must be billions of them out there.

Practically speaking, if i am an authentic "end-user" running a real business, i probably would have no more use for additional more domains that might be similar to ones i already have (let alone these domains are going to be peddled to me at bloated prices).

And is there a sales success rate statistics for these kind of tools? Because if the software recommended that you send 100 emails, and you got 5 sales from 5 of those emails, then the remaining 95 emails will be treated as spam (and they'll probably put your IP address on the spammers honey pot list).

 

[thelensboss]

The software will have email templates so that the emails go out to that specified user in a more personal format like each email would therefore be unique.

You will get a large list and all you have to do is check off the ones you want to send.

So you are telling me that you don't already email each end user on an individual basis? but it takes an hour or two in some cases to send out 20+ emails...

so i think you'd save some time and it wouldn't be spam

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Back to square one, in terms of effort. But financial-wise, you lose out because you paid for the software and you got little return-of-investment for what you paid for.





I'm also not quite sure if the software would consider minisite-makers as "end-users" as well, because there must be billions of them out there.

Practically speaking, if i am an authentic "end-user" running a real business, i probably would have no more use for additional more domains that might be similar to ones i already have (let alone these domains are going to be peddled to me at bloated prices).

And is there a sales success rate statistics for these kind of tools? Because if the software recommended that you send 100 emails, and you got 5 sales from 5 of those emails, then the remaining 95 emails will be treated as spam (and they'll probably put your IP address on the spammers honey pot list).

Why wouldn't you want a domain similar to one you already have?!

 

[BizBot]

It seems like a good service if used wisely.

However, NamePros does not allow site promotions in discussion threads.

Moved to the For Sale / Advertising Board.


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[pick.pk]

bottomline: what's the price of your software?

 

[Tia Wood]

Curious:

How would these emails be obtained after you search for these end users?

What criteria would the software use to find end users?

Thanks.

 

[balivillas]

hey guys...

just curious if anyone would pay for a software that finds end users and automatically sends emails to them?

as in you input the domain, and it will generate leads for you and you can send emails with it.

web based subscription per month?

Sounds like a spamming software for me. But if you think your website's content could be that interesting to make a hit in emails, it might be worth the payment. Also, you have to learn some rules in spamming before using it I suggest.