Who has the power to change the industry?

[Ronald Regging]

I just posted a new article on my domaining blog which talks about who has the power to make a massive change in the domain parking industry. I would appreciate some feedback on this, you know, tell me your opinions of whether it's possible and what kind of impact you think it might have on the industry. It's sort of a topic that I've never seen discussed before, so I'm wondering if others have considered this and have opinions on it.
I'd prefer discussion in this thread, but feel free to also comment on the blog if you like.

Name Ticket

I apologize if this seems like self-promotion... The site has no ads or anything, it's just a blog I'm starting to give my opinions and ideas on the industry and thought people might be interested in this particular article focused on the domain parking industry.

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if a mod would prefer i actually just post the article in here, instead of having the link to the site, I'd be happy to oblige, like i said, no attempts at self-promotion are intended.

 

[smartpc]

sounds like a job for super mexican domain wrestler....is it a bird is it a plane no....

its a flying jumping bean....

 

[Ronald Regging]

hmm no one commented on the concept though... I thought this would be something that would get some discussion...

 

[matt_bodis]

The only people that have the power to change the industry, is people like us.

 

[-NC-]

the idea is simple. These ISPs have the potential power to log every single web request by their users that comes back as unresolvable.

I seem to remember reading somewhere (will try to find where) that they already do this. If you pay them enough (probably a very big number), they will sell you the data.

Here's an article about purchasing "clickstream", but if they sell that, I don't see why they wouldn't also be selling type in data.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070315-your-isp-may-be-selling-your-web-clicks.html

 

[RareIQ]

don't think it will ever happen....

 

[zachary0611]

You werent very clear in your article about what the problem is. I imagine your saying they arent giving us info.

 

[armstrong]

Registries have this data. Everytime someone puts in a domain, they check their database and tell you which nameservers to ask. That or tell you "nope, that's not registered."

They are also the ones who can monetize these. Netsol raised a stink a few years ago when they tried this with com/net/org. That one ended up in court. Might not be totally dead yet; they might love to try again, as it is a moneymaker.

dotph does this (resolve and monetize everything dotph). other registries probably do a well.

 

[Dotmainer]

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http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/325551-power-to-destroy-domaining-industry.html

 

[RareIQ]

mergers, aqusitions, a common day occurrence
:td:

 

[ALGDomains]

You werent very clear in your article about what the problem is. I imagine your saying they arent giving us info.

Your assumption that ISPs are not utilizing or monitizing the traffic to unregistered or unresolving domains is unsound.

 

[Ronald Regging]

Your assumption that ISPs are not utilizing or monitizing the traffic to unregistered or unresolving domains is unsound.

How so? I goto a site that doesn't exist and I get a plain unresolvable page. Theres no utilization or monetization by the ISPs as far as I can see currently. At least not with Comcast (who is one of the bigger ones). Maybe others who use AOL or some other heavy hitters can say what those services do if anything with unresolvable traffic.

I'm just not seeing anything, and there is definitely BIG money to be made with it. I think that article posted up above shows that others are thinking about this as well. And personally I think that company is poised to make some major money off of the idea. If I had tons of money to invest in a business, I'd be doing exactly the same thing.

*I dont agree with their use of redirecting domains that they consider may have been typed in error (typos)... Just the use of them using their own logs to determine domains that aren't registered and are getting traffic, then registering them. The other stuff will have dire consequences... but like I said, the ISPs WILL be the ones changing the face of domain parking...

 

[armstrong]

slipxaway, you're talking about two different things here:

1.

"I goto a site that doesn't exist and I get a plain unresolvable page. Theres no utilization or monetization by the ISPs as far as I can see currently."

You think ISPs can monetize this by resolving it for you, perhaps to a page with ads? They would have to contend with the downsides, however, because success in this endeavor can bring lots of protest, as netsol discovered. For one thing, they could be sued for trademark infringement by any number of companies. For another, some software programs rely on the internet behaving a certain way, and for the ISPs to change this would wreck that.

2.

"Just the use of them using their own logs to determine domains that aren't registered and are getting traffic, then registering them."

This is perfectly legal, but who's to say the ISPs don't already do this? If you get a unresolved page, maybe it just means the domain does not get enough traffic to make it worth it. Maybe netsol, or some other registrar or registry, already does this. At this point, though, I doubt very much that any worthwhile traffic domains still exist in the wild. The domain tasters have seen to that!

 

[Ronald Regging]

2. This is perfectly legal, but who's to say the ISPs don't already do this? If you get a unresolved page, maybe it just means the domain does not get enough traffic to make it worth it. Maybe netsol, or some other registrar or registry, already does this. At this point, though, I doubt very much that any worthwhile traffic domains still exist in the wild. The domain tasters have seen to that!

This is my point exactly. The domain tasters are only tasting domains that have dropped. They are in effect, scavengers. But if the ISPs have logs and can see what domains people are trying to access that aren't already registered, they have a major advantage to tasters. It's impossible to know what unregistered domains are out there that may be getting some nice traffic for whatever reason, unless you're in the position of the ISPs, or as others have mentioned, the registries. And your assumption that no worthwhile traffic domains still exist is completely wrong. People hand reg some nice traffic domains every day. Sure, it is very hard to find them, but thats the whole point of this idea, ISPs would have absolutely no problem finding them...

As for your first point, I'm not talking about them doing anything differently as far as resolving or the technology involved. Im just talking about them finding the domains and registering them for PPC purposes. I also dont agree that the redirecting of domains is kosher so to speak