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This is just a small portion of our domains, which were registered via Godaddy. We plan to develop most of the domains, but if you were to put a value on this lot, what would it be? I know some are local related, but any info is helpful. Thank you.

pentiumlaptop.com
lowfeepayday.com
moneyfastloans.com
lifecreams.com
bbqnewyork.com
chicagoshower.com
daycareaustintx.com
funindallas.com
golddallas.com
sanantoniotaxis.com
thebarrescue.com
real-estate-buyers.com
austintxfundraising.com
austintxattorneyslawyers.com
dental-austin.com
dentalroundrock.com
pflugerville-dentist.com
austin-tx-used-cars.com
marketingtipsfree.com
austinmovingservice.com
austintxhomebuilder.com
greatseoservice.com
lawyerphoenixarizona.com
phoenixarizonaattorney.com
mortgageaustintexas.com
truckrentalsaustin.com
viralbuzzmarketing.com
irsnoticeoflevy.com
newyorkyankeesticket.com
credit-repair-lawyers.com
 
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Not developed reg fee at best. If this is just a small portion of what you have I would say its time to stop registering names and start working on developing them.
 
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Not developed reg fee at best. If this is just a small portion of what you have I would say its time to stop registering names and start working on developing them.

I agree.
 
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Not developed reg fee at best. If this is just a small portion of what you have I would say its time to stop registering names and start working on developing them.

We develop some for in house lead purposes. Others we use for client web design purposes. The portion I posted is a few of our undeveloped domains. I was just wondering if there were any in there worth selling rather than working on. I appreciate your help.
 
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I'm not well-versed in geo-domains, but I think these may find a buyer and they would be those I might develop:
sanantoniotaxis.com
austinmovingservice.com
lawyerphoenixarizona.com
phoenixarizonaattorney.com
mortgageaustintexas.com
truckrentalsaustin.com

The others seem more like liabilities than actual assets.

I would say low to mid xxx$ would be about what could be expected. But, an assessment of potential buyers would need to be done to really confirm if there could be buyers for them.
 
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IMO developing is not an option for you but it is your only option to save those domains otherwise you will not recover even a fraction of the reg fee.
 
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We buy our domains with the goal of development first and foremost. We use tools to target decent, high PPC, dropping domains. Even though the primary focus isn't flipping the domain, we still look at tools like Estibot and Valuate just for fun. With that said, in the last year, we sold two domains, which we had no intention to move. It just makes you take an extra look through some of your domains, to make sure you are doing the right thing, and they aren't worth more just selling.

We register our domains at the right price. We find coupons, and like the PentiumLaptop.com domain, which Valuate has around $1,200 -- we bought for 50 cents through Register.com -- even though the value is not the purpose.
 
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Your names are perfect for lead gathering (but they're not premium).
Most domainers don't much know about leads and their value.

As far as cashing out, greatseoservice.com may be worth $x,xxx (end user pricing).
It's nearly impossible to find an SEO name that is meaningful, not too long, & spelled correctly.

The local domains could be sold directly to business owners (if they're savvy) for low to mid $xxx.
You could sell viralbuzzmarketing.com to the owners of viralbuzzmarketinggroup.com for $xxx.
...we still look at tools like Estibot and Valuate just for fun.
Valuate is (powered by) Estibot. Their values are infamous for astronomical deviations away from reality.
 
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Your names are perfect for lead gathering (but they're not premium).
Most domainers don't much know about leads and their value.

As far as cashing out, greatseoservice.com may be worth $x,xxx (end user pricing).
It's nearly impossible to find an SEO name that is meaningful, not too long, & spelled correctly.

The local domains could be sold directly to business owners (if they're savvy) for low to mid $xxx.
You could sell viralbuzzmarketing.com to the owners of viralbuzzmarketinggroup.com for $xxx.

Valuate is (powered by) Estibot. Their values are infamous for astronomical deviations away from reality.
I agree with DomainBizDev , and for this i generated end users leads for you. check your pm i hope that it will help you to sale it.
 
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we bought for 50 cents

Prepare yourself for a long battle ahead, these half a buck domains will renew at double to triple price the would normally do and if you try to transfer them they will use any known stratagem to hinder your efforts so they can have you in slavery paying their high rates. Beware.
 
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Prepare yourself for a long battle ahead, these half a buck domains will renew at double to triple price the would normally do and if you try to transfer them they will use any known stratagem to hinder your efforts so they can have you in slavery paying their high rates. Beware.

We've been around since 2003, so we know what we are getting into. There are coupons to be had to re register. Also, one lead will usually pay for the full bore reg fee. I don't want to keep beating a dead horse, but the domains were bought to generate leads. We didn't buy them for domain value. I just wanted to know if any were worth selling out right, over building for leads.

DomainBizDev, you've been very helpful. I would flip us around in your story. We are in it for the leads (we do rent our developed sites out to locals), and don't know what the domains are worth, and that is why we are here. We appreciate the info a lot. We will keep on keeping on, and if we get a random offer, we get a random offer.
 
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I don't know nobody has mentioned this, but PentiumLaptop.com is stepping on a trademark. I would dump it.
I would drop most of them, but it's worth looking first to see if there are obvious end-users (like the one BizDev pointed out).
 
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As domain names only, sorry but I don't see a single domain here I would even pay reg fee for, even with a coupon. I wouldn't want them in my account if you gave them to me. Maybe 3 or 4 have minor value if you get very very lucky with end users, but I don't see any names that are a clear sell.

For developing/leads, same. Most of these are very clunky, long, some have word placements that look like English is not your first language because they have backwards placement. Some look totally random, chosen only because they contain a few keywords, but many of these phrases have no other sense to them. Some do and some don't. There are MUCH better domains to register along these lines if you want to mine leads.

Also a couple of these are trademark-based domains, and you want to stay away from registering or developing trademarks. Pentium is a branded trademark of Intel, and New York Yankees is trademarked also.

My comment is to drop them all, not waste time trying to develop or sell. Look hard into how to reg better names, both to sell as domains and to develop for leads. I know you're debating that they have lead value... but really, there are millions of domains like this available to register, and they're available for a reason: because they are mostly valueless, difficult to sell or develop, difficult to mine enough leads from to make any worthwhile income. Yes, it's true that with enough development you can mine leads from practically any sorry-ass domain... but why waste valuable life time and energy developing poor domains for leads, when you can find much better domains? A quick check of google's keyword tool, or Estibot's available domains tool, will give you much better keyphrases to work with. Sorry; I'd cut my losses and come up with a stronger business plan.

Welcome to the forum, good luck :)
 
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Sorry, Iamnewhere, for some of the facile answers on here.
Your customers and buyers understand business more than many domainers do.
 
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The local ones really need development to get value for them. I would go though and drop any that are copyright infringements which there are at least two of. greatseoservice.com has most value and could get $x,xxx depending on who you sell it to.
 
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I was too rash and harsh last night (but I'll leave my above post unedited). Took another look this morning and will try to do a little more justice:

newyorkyankeesticket.com
pentiumlaptop.com
thebarrescue.com
These are trademark based domains. To develop or try to make any money from them is not legal. I know a few years ago it was still being done rampantly, domainers and site developers found high-search TM terms, built sites around them, seo'd them up high in the serps, and made a lot of cash... and to some extent it's still being done... but since it's bad faith/not legal, most legit domainers and developers now stay away from TM's. I'm slightly worried on behalf of some of your clients if they are trusting their business to someone who still thinks it is okay to deal in trademark-infringing domains and websites... I hope you change that and get rid of TM-based domains from your biz plan because you are putting yourself and your clients at risk (this is assuming that you have other already-built websites built around TM terms. If you don't, then good, but I'd still get rid of the TM domains listed here).

lifecreams.com
This one I can't figure out. No monthly searches at all on google. Singular gets 50 searches. The 'life' seems to be part of a variety of brands, like Vasa's 'soft life' brand creams... if that's what you're going for, then I can only add this to the above list of trademarked domains. If there's something I'm not seeing about this domain, let me know.


lowfeepayday.com
moneyfastloans.com
Look, I get it. You're shooting for terms that have high cpc keywords in them because that can translate into high-value and targeted leads. 'low fee payday' gets zero monthly searches but it's part of the term 'low fee payday loans' which receives 320 searches; 'money fast loans' gets 90 searches because it's a backwards way of writing 'fast money loans' which gets 1000 searches.
So you're finding phrases whose keywords receive high cpc amounts, then (since those phrases are already taken in dot.com) you're doing the chop-shop thing, taking the same words but mixing them into a different order, chopping off a word here and there, regging those versions and also using software to watch out for these kinds of domains that are deleting in dot.com.
You build them out, do some seo, try get traffic to them which hopefully translates to leads going to your clients.

I guess you're also using domains/phrases that have zero searches and little or zero cpc amounts because you intend to optimize them for related terms that do; for example 'chicago shower' gets 10 monthly searches, no one's looking for that term, and it has a very low cpc. But you build it out to suit, for example, Chicago Contractor or some related business with high cpc and better leads, right?


I won't go thru the rest of the domains, they're pretty much based on the same basics. You've asked us for appraisals of these as domain names without content, and I do have to repeat that as domains alone, there are millions of these types still available to register, or dropping each month. The intent of your business model revolves around getting traffic to a particular type of website; and google, with the considerable search algorithm changes over the last few years, has made it difficult for small sites with minimal development to rank high in serps. That is even for exact-match domains.

Since your websites (based on the examples in this thread anyway) are based on domains whose phrases have little to zero monthly searches, that means you will have to do even more development than if you had exact-match domains to work with. Now you have to make google and other engines, and other websites you want to link trade with, work even harder to see the value in your websites, you're practically asking them to look past the phrase in your domain and see only the content. Instead of exact match, your domain becomes more like a brandable.

I guess what I'm saying is: I saw how much work it would take to build those domains out into receiving any notable traffic - and notable targeted traffic is what you need for lead generation to pay off - and it looked to me like you're doing it the harder way, rather than finding more 'pure' exact match domains with decent monthly searches. Since selling the domains isn't your priority, you might do much better finding exact match domains and developing them on other extensions like .info .net .org? Less easy to sell the domain, but better chance of good optimization when you use the exact match phrase.

If you're finding that your returns $$ are well worth the amount of development you have to do for these domains, and your clients are happy too, then you've found a biz model that works for you.
We can appraise them as domains - and I still wouldn't have any of them myself [edit: perhaps as a reseller I might pay low xx for golddallas and bbqnewyork] - but if you are making money with them (rather, the developed ones similar to these listed here), and your clients are receiving enough leads and are earning income from them, then your development is succeeding despite - not due to - the quality of the domains. It means that you're developing and optimizing in very smart ways, and congrats if you are doing well at this.

But do get rid of the TM names entirely, both developed and undeveloped. You're playing with hot potatoes and are also placing your clients at risk, any who are involved with TM-based websites whose TM they do not own.

Good luck :)
 
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newyorkyankeesticket.com

Creation Date: 06-dec-2013

This one will probably get you a lawyer letter. $0
 
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Keep in mind this is a domaining forum, we only appraise domains - that is the resale value for the raw domains. We don't appraise business ideas. This is not about the potential of the domains if they were developed, because every domain can be developed. But the trademarked domains are definitely liabilities.
The rest are not the worst of the worst, it's just that they are unlikely to sell undeveloped.
 
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