domain What is the price of this domain? - royal.estate

[Brands.International]

I recently registered domain royal.estate .. can you please give my your opinion about its price/value?
Some similar domains like luxury.estate or world.estate were sold pretty nicely in 2014 ..what is your opinion about value of such domains in 2016?

Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

 

[gilescoley]

I cant see any value in this one

There is no end-user market for .estate names, your best bet is a reseller buying it from you

 

[Messiah]

I liked the name. It does have value in my opinion. Google is your partner in search.

Go to ZFBot.com. Type your domain keywords, find the end users. If the websites are developed, contact them, tell them how your domain can be valuable to their business and brand.

IMO it should go for mid xxx.

Good Luck!

 

[Brands.International]

@gilescoley : thanks a lot you for your reply!
@Messiah : very appreciated, I did not know about ZFBot tool, it gave me 129 results for companies with royal and estate in their domains, so definitely good idea. I will have a look and contact those where some interest can be expected. Thank you!

 

[Brands.International]

Hi folks,
would you have any more opinion or advise for this domain?

 

[Dominium]

royal.estate has significance in an aspirational, figurative sense. It could be the name of a drink: vodka, rum, wines, it could be an exclusive club, a spa or resort, or a line of cigars, premium foods and hampers, or perhaps a car dealer.

Someone's already made a logo for you too: https://dribbble.com/shots/2786317-Royal-Estate-Logo, available at https://logocosmos.net/products/royal-estate-logo.

The problem might be finding the right enduser for this domain. You may have to find, and approach, marketers, investors, brand consultants, product designers and anyone else who might be in a position to suggest a name for a new product or a new business. Unless you or a broker know these kinds of people, a sale might be unlikely in my opinion.

 

[Brands.International]

@Dominium : I very much appreciate your post, information about logo and that website is interesting (actually I liked the logo), so it is good for me to know about it. I have several domains and some of them might need logos for better marketing.

Also excellent ideas about how to use the name for different kinds of products. I was only focused on Real Estate, and have not though about other interesting options, like drinks or clubs Thank you!

 

[Domaingage]

I agree with @Messiah, mid $xxx.

 

[Fancy.domains]

As already mentioned, Luxury.estate sold for $50K back in 2014, but I would not take that to much in consideration, as there haven't been that many .ESTATE sales after that.

I think your best option would be a company with that name, that don't have the dot com, or can't afford it. I think a low $XXXX might be realistic IF you can attract the right end user.

 

[Brands.International]

Hello kohsamui, thanks a lot for your reply! I also start to have feeling I will have to do some outbound marketing for this one. Lot of work, but probably can not be avoided. Or I can hold it and see if someone becomes interesting, but that might take then some time to sell.

Regarding appraisal, I have also the same feeling for this year, some low $XXXX. Estibot gave me value $1300, Flippa pricing engine made is as $7999, so not bad purchase I guess, as it was not priced as premium when I got it

 

[Brands.International]

I agree with @Messiah, mid $xxx.

Thanks man!

 

[Kate]

Some similar domains like luxury.estate or world.estate were sold pretty nicely in 2014 ..

royal.estate is not in the same league because the keyword is a bit loaded.
The two names you mention are parked and undeveloped. My guess is that they were bought by a speculator, not an end user. When you see domainers buying up new extensions and no end users - it's not a good sign.

what is your opinion about value of such domains in 2016?

Fewer than 10K regs according to registrarstats. Assuming all are bona fide, paid registrations, it's not a big TLD. The odds are, you've never seen one in action in real life. And that nobody knows this TLD even exists. So it is unlikely that people will be looking for this name if they have no idea it could even exist.

 

[Brands.International]

@Kate : Hi Kate, thank you for your reply, it is very appreciated! Also interesting information about total number of registrations for this TLD. I guess that at the moment not many people knows about existence of new domains (when speaking about end-users), so those 2 purchases above were definitely bought by a speculators.

The big question for me is whether in few years Google (and other similar companies) will take into consideration meaning of the domain extension in their search algorithms ,and whether the public awareness of new domains will grow..If so, this domain might have significant value for end-user..if not, then it will have much less of value then I would like it to have in future I personally see odds 50:50 that new domains will start to be on rise sometimes around 2020, but it would really depend on whether Google will see some incentive to include them into its search algorithms.

 

[Casey L]

Everyone saying xxx and higher wouldn't pay anything near that for it if they had the money. Just because a domain name is pretty on the eyes and there is one outlying comp doesn't suddenly make it good. Reg fee for this one and 99.9% of other .estates

 

[Fancy.domains]

Everyone saying xxx and higher wouldn't pay anything near that for it if they had the money. Just because a domain name is pretty on the eyes and there is one outlying comp doesn't suddenly make it good. Reg fee for this one and 99.9% of other .estates

Why should WE pay that for this? We are domainers.

I have sold a few new gTLDs to companies for XXXX, just because they identify themselves with this, or a similar, name. Still it's not TM issues, as the names have been very generic, just as in this case.

But, without an end user, these are currently not easy to sell for even mid XXX.

 

[Fancy.domains]

Ps. Appraisals for many of the new gTLDs, with a very few exemptions, are almost impossible to do. For some of them, there are no market at all and you will have to be lucky or creative to be able to find a end user.

So a reg fee estimation is in one way accurate. But personally, I know that new gTLDs are selling and I am trying to estimate the value out of data from existing, similar sales. But with that said, it IS an obvious risk to spend a lot of money on new gTLDs. Many will probably not sell at all.

Sorry for going off topic.

 

[Casey L]

Why should WE pay that for this? We are domainers.

I have sold a few new gTLDs to companies for XXXX, just because they identify themselves with this, or a similar, name. Still it's not TM issues, as the names have been very generic, just as in this case.

But, without an end user, these are currently not easy to sell for even mid XXX.

It's like saying "I bought a mega millions lottery ticket for the $100 million jackpot, so my ticket is worth $100 million." It doesn't account for the 99.9999% chance that it will sit and collect dust. The same goes for domain names. That's great that you've sold some but what about the millions and millions of other nTLDs that even semi-educated resellers wouldn't touch? Appraisals should be"what is it worth?" not "what might someone pay for it one day maybe?"

 

[Fancy.domains]

It's like saying "I bought a mega millions lottery ticket for the $100 million jackpot, so my ticket is worth $100 million." It doesn't account for the 99.9999% chance that it will sit and collect dust. The same goes for domain names. That's great that you've sold some but what about the millions and millions of other nTLDs that even semi-educated resellers wouldn't touch? Appraisals should be"what is it worth?" not "what might someone pay for it one day maybe?"

I've sold about 8 percent of my new gTLDs. That is more of a 92% chance that it will sit and collect dust. :P

But obviously, our views and experiences are different. I respect yours.

 

[james haw]

New gTLDs are a risky investment as there is no general value, this is reflected from their being very few sales, and new TLD in general not selling much. However, some gTLDs are selling, and the risk can be lowered a fair bit by using a more known gTLD and/or good keyword which fits the TLD. ie "night.vision" (sorry, but it's a good example..) or "Green.world" which sold for $8.5K recently. The keyword and TLD go perfectly together.

The problem comes when people think any keyword is valuable because it would be valuable in com or even net. It's just not the same, at all. "wine.club" sold for 6 figures, but that does not mean even decent club domains are all suddenly worth 3 and figures and up. There are always exceptions to the rule, even in com where some names sell for ridiculous amounts.

The key is be sensible, wise, and expect to potentially hold the name for years for a decent offer, or possibly just never sell at all as you are waiting on very few end users.

The future is unclear, and only takes a large swarm of large sites using new gTLDs etc and it could kick off (and com would not be left behind, it would just become even more valuable). Or it might just be as it is, steady away with some sites using new TLDs, and those with decent budgets use coms etc.


We cannot really value these names with any degree of accuracy as it is only what someone is willing to pay, not a general market value based on previous sales like we find in most com names. For royal.estate, you might simply never sell it, or someone might happen across it who has a perfect project, and budget.

 

[Fancy.domains]

New gTLDs are a risky investment as there is no general value, this is reflected from their being very few sales, and new TLD in general not selling much. However, some gTLDs are selling, and the risk can be lowered a fair bit by using a more known gTLD and/or good keyword which fits the TLD. ie "night.vision" (sorry, but it's a good example..) or "Green.world" which sold for $8.5K recently. The keyword and TLD go perfectly together.

The problem comes when people think any keyword is valuable because it would be valuable in com or even net. It's just not the same, at all. "wine.club" sold for 6 figures, but that does not mean even decent club domains are all suddenly worth 3 and figures and up. There are always exceptions to the rule, even in com where some names sell for ridiculous amounts.

The key is be sensible, wise, and expect to potentially hold the name for years for a decent offer, or possibly just never sell at all as you are waiting on very few end users.

The future is unclear, and only takes a large swarm of large sites using new gTLDs etc and it could kick off (and com would not be left behind, it would just become even more valuable). Or it might just be as it is, steady away with some sites using new TLDs, and those with decent budgets use coms etc.


We cannot really value these names with any degree of accuracy as it is only what someone is willing to pay, not a general market value based on previous sales like we find in most com names. For royal.estate, you might simply never sell it, or someone might happen across it who has a perfect project, and budget.

You pretty much said it all.