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Warning > DMG.com: Snapnames Auction

Located in Warnings and Alerts started by Federer, Dec 17, 2008.

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  1. Federer

    Federer Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    If you are participating in the above auction, I would strongly advice you to stop bidding immediately. I have inside information on a legal entity who will be snatching this domain from the winning bidder. They represent DMG Vertriebs Und Service GmbH, DMG Europe Holding GmbH and DMG Gildemeister.

    DMG Gildmeister is the worldwide owner of the trademark DMG including all common law rights and the German and U.S. trademark registrations.

    PM or email me for further information.
     
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  2. 1901gt

    1901gt Active Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    If they have the trademark, then why didn't they get the domain earlier?
     
  3. Charley

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    Any source ?

    Why wouldn't this be disclosed to the public. I think that's the way to go.
     
  4. Pred

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    did you know about their intentions as you approached them about them buying before winning the name, thus alerting them?

    i ask, as i know you have made sales before lining up a buyer before winning a drop. its cool to do, but can go wrong, if thats what happened here

    btw, unless snap bottle it, it would have to go to wipo and if you have a business model and plan for the name and dont park, and wipo play fair, which they do sometimes, sometimes not, then you 'should' win

    however appreciate heads up as most wont want hassle
     
  5. Charley

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    Yea, I'd like to hear out this as well.
     
  6. Federer

    Federer Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Ok, for those who are interested in the legal document I have, send me an email to [email protected] and you can make you own mind up as to weather you would like to continue bidding - I'll email you the letter.

    I am in the auction and will no longer be bidding. I have also informed the current leading bidder (a friend of mine) and he will not be purchasing the domain either.

    Yes, you can take the 'risk' and snap up this domain. But seeing as I had received this information from the company who will be filing the complaint, just thought it would be useful and correct to share with you guys.
     
  7. Charley

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    Can you copy & paste the letter here ?
     
  8. Federer

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    Shoot me an email and you'll get the document within 1 minute.
     
  9. Embrand

    Embrand Michael Bilde ICA Member Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Thanks for the warning.

    What about bae.com, which may be a NJ soon. Current owner giant British Aerospace, which is now BAE Systems at baesystems.com. Would you guys dare bid on this one or too risky?
     
  10. wussadotcom

    wussadotcom Senior Member VIP

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    Why did they give you the letter. I mean the one @ company who wants to file the dispute.
     
  11. Federer

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    Their lawyers sent me the letter as a clear warning. They believed that I owned the domain name.

    It was a misunderstanding. I had simply approached them to see if there would be any interest for DMG as, at the first drop auction, I was extremely close to becoming the new owner. For some reason, the winning bidder didn't end up paying the funds (this leads me to believe that maybe he too was contacted upon the closing of the auction).
     
  12. DomainTalker

    DomainTalker Active Member VIP

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    Appreciate the heads up, Fed...

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  13. wussadotcom

    wussadotcom Senior Member VIP

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    scary :ghost: ~ though you can easily see that if its true the comp is trying to interfere with the auction they are trying to make people feel afraid to bid plus with you spreading it all around (no hard feelings :D )
    Its not easy to take someone domains away, not a simple process. It would be easier for them to bid it but with a low amount.
    So,I know its a small change for you federer compared to your US open winnings, if you would be willing to go and bid and win this domain then it will open people's eyes about us :kickass:
    :bingo:
     
  14. 1901gt

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    I still believe they don't deserve to get the domain. >:(
     
  15. Federer

    Federer Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    We all agree with you there.
     
  16. gingeman

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    Just because they intend to make a claim on the domain does not mean they will win, there are many factors which must be satisfied for this to happen. Seeing as they have the opportunity like everyone else to aquire this name through the auction (they are clearlyaware of it) I would have thought that could be used as evidence of reverse-hijacking anyhow...
    but thanks for the heads up Fed, its good to look out for each other.
     
  17. Charley

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    Yea I support you here. I knew this was the case from his first post in the thread. I persuaded him to post the facts here to so that everyone can see, it's just not genuine. And he didn't.


    Yes, you're totally RIGHT
     
  18. Spade

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    Am I the only one who questions the legal right of this company to assume ownership of a LLL.com ?

    Frankly, I can think of several potential acronyms and just a quick check on Google shows several companies and institutions that use DMG in their business name. Unless you were planning on infringing on someones Mark - why would you fear purchasing this domain name?
     
  19. bmugford

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    They can file a dispute if they want, anyone can. However it takes a lot more than just filing a dispute to get the domain. They have no legal right unless they can show TM infringement and bad faith.
     
  20. -REECE-

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    I think it would be a pretty easy to prove bad faith if Federer were to win it..

     
  21. Kenny

    Kenny Member Services, NamePros Super Moderator Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Moved to W&A
     
  22. Spade

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    Bingo. I think the problem is exactly as pointed out earlier. There was bad faith, but only on the part of Federer to "presell" this domain name. However, I do have a feeling that he stuck his hand in a hornets nest, and regardless of who wins, will be in store for a headache.
     
  23. Pred

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    you may be needing this guys :blink:

    [​IMG]
     
  24. Federer

    Federer Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I should have just kept low profile until landing the domain, set up a generic static page & made a list of TM DMG Owners NOT to contact.
    I am one of the newest domainers on the block with TONS of learning to do and mistakes NOT to make. This one (...) will not be made again.
     
  25. d0main

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    Someone isn't too happy with federer...
     

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