.mobi WAP 2.0 Development. How to Guide?

anurag · Oct 28, 2006

How to Develop a Mobi Site.

Hello

As all of us know that .mobi is not the same as other names.

Can some one help me how to develop the site or any software to develop site.

Thanks
Anurag

karamba · Oct 29, 2006

Hi.
I have few scripts for making wap sites.
You can see demo on http://irk.mobi ,
but it's russian wap cms. Tried to find something better, but no results

anurag · Oct 29, 2006

Hello

Tried to open your website

But get this Error

The page cannot be displayed

Any other help.

Anurag

karamba said:
Hi.
I have few scripts for making wap sites.
You can see demo on http://irk.mobi ,
but it's russian wap cms. Tried to find something better, but no results

MinionDH · Oct 29, 2006

anurag said:
Hello

As all of us know that .mobi is not the same as other names.

Can some one help me how to develop the site or any software to develop site.

Thanks
Anurag

Everything you need regarding development (info, templates, etc) can be found here . Good luck

anurag · Oct 29, 2006

Yes. I tried this one and downloaded Nokia development kit too.

But not much help.

MinionDH said:
Everything you need regarding development (info, templates, etc) can be found here . Good luck

iNod · Oct 29, 2006

The basic rule of developing mobile sites is this.

Mobiles use basic Java and XML to get html from websites. Therefore you need to make sure ALL your code is valid in XML/XHTML in-order for it too work. You can do basic PHP functions for a mobile but you must parsel the results in XML/XHTML so you need to specify a header.

In order to "interact" with a cellphone, on keypress etc. You need to use Java. For more information on mobile java programming visit
http://www.phptr.com/articles/article.asp?p=411460&seqNum=1&rl=1

Does that help any?

- Steve

anurag · Oct 29, 2006

Thanks Steve.

looks fine. I will try to develop using these guidelines.

Cheers,
Anurag

iNod · Oct 29, 2006

I have copied a simple XHTML page from my website regdub.mobi for you to see how I developed it

Code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<!DOCTYPE wml PUBLIC "-//WAPFORUM//DTD WML 1.3//EN" "http://www.wapforum.org/DTD/wml13.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
 	<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"/>
  	<title>RegisterDub</title>	   
</head>
<body>
<img src="logo_wap.gif" /><br />
<a href="renew.php">Renew</a><br />
<a href="pricing.php">Pricing</a><br /><br />
<b>Register</b><br />

<form method="POST" action="">
<input type="text" name="tld" /> .<select name="sld">
<option>com</option>
<option>net</option>
<option>org</option>
<option>info</option>
<option>mobi</option>
<option>biz</option>
<option>us</option>

<option>bz</option>
<option>tv</option>
<option>in</option>
</select>
<br />
<input type="submit" name="submit" value="Search" />
</form>
<br />
Copyright 2006 RegisterDub
</body>
</html>

Notice that most my functions have ending / that is a must for XHTML programming. You also need the <!DOCTYPE wml PUBLIC "-//WAPFORUM//DTD WML 1.3//EN" "http://www.wapforum.org/DTD/wml13.dtd"> for it to work properly.

Good Luck!

- Steve

izo-pod · Oct 29, 2006

We should make this thread "sticky"---very helpful for future reference

anurag · Oct 29, 2006

so it means pages we develop for .mobi nmaes can open only in mobile browser or mobile simulate. not in desktop browser

so normal users can not see .mobi names

pl.correct me if i am wrong ????????

Jo · Oct 29, 2006

anurag said:
so it means pages we develop for .mobi nmaes can open only in mobile browser or mobile simulate. not in desktop browser

so normal users can not see .mobi names

pl.correct me if i am wrong ????????

Ok, what you do is open up the .xhtml file in notepad and save as .html

Add this line inside your head tags:

<meta http-equiv='Content-Type' content='text/html;charset=utf-8' />

As long as you have the correct format/language for .mobi, it should be fine in both pc browsers and mobile devices.

anurag · Oct 29, 2006

It works but it is ok to use both.

As according to Mobi guidelines we have to use only format for mobile.

If we use format like this, they can disable our domain or cancel the registation.

I think they should be fine as we are using both for mobile and for desktop ??????

Kerrijo said:
Ok, what you do is open up the .xhtml file in notepad and save as .html

Add this line in your header:

As long as you have the correct format/language for .mobi, it should be fine in both pc browsers and mobile devices.

one more interesting fact:

Just now tried mobi page with .html or .xhtml extension in follwing URL

http://emulator.mtld.mobi/emulator.php (Page given by .mobi to test the website)

When I tried the .html it worked fine but same time when tried .xhtml it didn't work

Any help ???????????

Jo · Oct 29, 2006

You need to give us your page address.

Also try entering it into this checker...it gives you the errors on your page:

http://validator.w3.org/

anurag · Oct 29, 2006

Looks like problem with my hosting.

Just now tried uploading files in other hosting and it is working fine.

I need to investigate why it is not working in my hosting.

Looks like my hosting is not able to recognise .xhtml

Damion · Oct 29, 2006

I'm not a coder so it's hard for me to say but is this Mobi Site Generator any usefull?

blue^ray · Oct 29, 2006

Just curious is a mobile able to handle video from a .mobi domain?

newton · Oct 30, 2006

Depends on the mobile / pda, most of the higher end phones can and will play 3gp / mp4 / Flash etc.

http://realdev1.realise.com/rossa/rendertest/quicktime.html
http://labs.reuters.com/mobile/video/default.aspx?showAll=true

Carlton · Oct 30, 2006

Kerrijo said:
You need to give us your page address.

Also try entering it into this checker...it gives you the errors on your page:

http://validator.w3.org/

Tampa.mobi passed verification after using the checker and referencing Kerrijo's Pokerhands.mobi. Regular html will need some modification. The validator provides hints for altering source code to eliminate errors.

iNod · Oct 30, 2006

But this is not regular HTML. It is XHTML (XML + HTML) so checking at w3 won't work really. The best way to do this is just add a xml thing to the top of the page (see my example post) and call via a browser and fix any errors you come up.

- Steve

Jo · Oct 30, 2006

Carlton said:
Tampa.mobi passed verification after using the checker and referencing Kerrijo's Pokerhands.mobi. Regular html will need some modification. The validator provides hints for altering source code to eliminate errors.

Tampa.mobi looks good on the emulator! (I see you are using the access keys, good job! I have to do that for my sites too.)

Mr. Deleted · Oct 30, 2006

anurag said:
http://emulator.mtld.mobi/emulator.php (Page given by .mobi to test the website)

http://emulator.mtld.mobi/emulator.php?webaddress=google.mobi&emulator=sonyK750

Google.mobi is not working on a Sony? Interesting...

As for my site, I just tested Muf.mobi, and it too is not working on either one, so I guess I don't know what I am supposed to do...

gou · Oct 30, 2006

Mr. Deleted said:
http://emulator.mtld.mobi/emulator.php?webaddress=google.mobi&emulator=sonyK750

Google.mobi is not working on a Sony? Interesting...

It seems to be working...

3l3ctr1c · Oct 30, 2006

What about making a WAP site ?

iNod · Oct 30, 2006

3l3ctr1c said:
What about making a WAP site ?

WAP is a programming language all by itself. You can learn more about it at.

http://www.w3schools.com/wap/

- Steve

blue^ray · Oct 30, 2006

newton said:
Depends on the mobile / pda, most of the higher end phones can and will play 3gp / mp4 / Flash etc.

http://realdev1.realise.com/rossa/rendertest/quicktime.html
http://labs.reuters.com/mobile/video/default.aspx?showAll=true

can they stream videos off the net? sorry ive just never had a internet mobile.

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