domain w w w .Mp3Mp3. c o m

[termi21]

Hello guys!

What do you think the value of www.mp3mp3.com is?

Thank you in advance!

 

[termi21]

Anyone?

 

[termi21]

I just read that old time registration adds value.

This domain is regged and owned for 10 years.

Hopefully someone will bother to share an opinion.

Thanks in advance

 

[termi21]

Estibot gives a value of $39.000...

Does it sound valid?

 

[Ben42]

Kind of a tough one to value. Sure, the keyword is there...twice. lol

It's actually brandable as is...definetly tells the user what the site will offer.

If I had to sell this one today I'd want at least $30. There are a ton of MP3 sites out there though, if you could find the right end user I'd say low $xxx.

Wouldn't be on the top of my development list, but this one would be good to develop I'd say. Best of luck with it!

 

[termi21]

Thanx for writing Ben

Well for sure i wouldn't sell it for $30, (www.mp3mp3.tv is sold at $50 !) i paid the triple over the 10 years i have it :hehe:

Probably i will develop it, after all that was the original idea... a decade ago!



EDIT:
Next to Estibot's 39.000, i will add Swift appraisal's $20.000-30.000 :o

Those numbers sound big to me too, but i agree that it is brandable, easy to remember/write, short, and maybe the closest name to www.mp3.com :yell:

Also after a small search i found mp3muzik.com (as a premium(?)) site at $20.250, mp3mania(premium again) at $8000 and mp3m.com (which is short but meaningless at $7900)

 

[Marck]

Thanx for writing Ben

Well for sure i wouldn't sell it for $30, (www.mp3mp3.tv is sold at $50 !) i paid the triple over the 10 years i have it :hehe:

Probably i will develop it, after all that was the original idea... a decade ago!



EDIT:
Next to Estibot's 39.000, i will add Swift appraisal's $20.000-30.000 :o

Those numbers sound big to me too, but i agree that it is brandable, easy to remember/write, short, and maybe the closest name to www.mp3.com :yell:

Your double keyword is fooling those appraisal scripts. A more realistic estimate is with "mp3mp3" as the keyword, so: http://estibot.com/results.php?domain=mp3mp3.com

Domain Appraisal for domain name only : USD 80

Valuation considering traffic:
USD 140

Sounds about right.

 

[termi21]

I agree with that, but www.mp3.com is estimated far more (1.8 million i think), than the 39.000 of mp3mp3.com so they are not 100% fooled.

Also, although i don't think anybody wouldn search for "mp3mp3" in google (although 135.000 results come up), nobody would search for "mp3downloads" too, if you know what i mean.

The reason estibot asks to write it as "mp3 mp3.com" or "Mp3Mp3.com" is in order for it to understand the keywords. Humans don't need to.

If you put mp3mp3.com in estibot it searches in google with the term mp3mp3, which is pretty useless.

 

[Marck]

I agree with that, but www.mp3.com is estimated far more (1.8 million i think), than the 39.000 of mp3mp3.com so they are not 100% fooled.

Also, although i don't think anybody wouldn search for "mp3mp3" in google (although 135.000 results come up), nobody would search for "mp3downloads" too, if you know what i mean.

The reason estibot asks to write it as "mp3 mp3.com" or "Mp3Mp3.com" is in order for it to understand the keywords. Humans don't need to.

If you put mp3mp3.com in estibot it searches in google with the term mp3mp3, which is pretty useless.

I don't know if you're trying to find out how much you could realistically sell this for without a miracle, or if you're trying to convince yourself it's a nugget of gold...

 

[termi21]

I just wanted to say that the domain is about mp3s, not mp3mp3s. So putting "mp3mp3.com" in estibot (instead of mp3 mp3.com) you surely fool it when it searches for keyword popularity.

 

[Marck]

I just wanted to say that the domain is about mp3s, not mp3mp3s. So putting "mp3mp3.com" in estibot (instead of mp3 mp3.com) you surely fool it when it searches for keyword popularity.

I disagree, I think the relevant keyword *is* mp3mp3.

Anyway, let's not argue over a machine, which is all estibot is.

My professional appraisal is that this is a brandable domain, and brandables of this length can reach mid $xxx on a good day in an auction with multiple interested bidders. If all the planets aligned in an auction with multiple interested bidders I could see this breaking $1k, but I wouldn't count on it. If you wanted to sell it soon you'd probably receive a few offers of high $xx to low $xxx.

 

[termi21]

I don't want to argue and i am thankful for you thoughts. But if we take for example the domain mp3dog.com, the relevant keyword is mp3dog?

By the way mp3dog.com in estibot is reg fee (and it autodetects the keyword "mp3dog", and mp3 dog.com gives $180.

It just doesn't get the keywords right if you don't seperate them. Probably because of the number "3" inside the name.

 

[Marck]

I don't want to argue and i am thankful for you thoughts. But if we take for example the domain mp3dog.com, the relevant keyword is mp3dog?

Basically yes. Because the keywords aren't related. There's no such thing as an mp3 dog just like there's no reason to type mp3 twice. So you're left with something brandable. In each case people will usually write the name as one word, like: GoDaddy, TinEye as some examples. And the frequency of the words "go" and "daddy" in google have nothing to do with godaddy as a brand. They would be stuffed with documents that just have those 2 words in them.

 

[termi21]

Ok just chating here, remember, i am not questioning you judgement.

I don't believe that estibot checks for keyword popularity for that reason. And that is the domain names as it is now has not very much to do with the Pagerank.

mp3downloads and mp3dog have same value for google (only name-wise) when somebody searches just for "mp3". Also if you search for "mp3 downloads", mp3downloads.com doesn't even come up in the first page. You already know these of course. So probably estibot checks for the keyword popularity just to see how popular the keyword is. So the keyword here is popular and the name easy to remember and type (brandability as you said it). That's why i bought it in the first place. I didn't buy it to sell it. Those estibot numbers made me really curious though.

Another example, korea.com which is great geo was sold for 5 millions.
If you search for korea in google it doesn't even come up in the first page. Still, i am pretty sure if someone wants to check about korea he will first visit korea.com. And if someone want to check for mp3 he will check mp3.com. Not mp3downloads.com, mp3dog.com or mp3mp3.com.
Extreme example, and mp3mp3.com is nowhere close to this but it still shows what i mean. If it is something you can remember and type is good, but that doesn't mean the name greatly helps in the pagerank. But when i chose mp3mp3 back in 1999, i did so because i think it is easier to remember than any mp3XXX.com

 

[Marck]

It was a smart domain to reg for development. It's not secretly worth a small fortune, if that's what estibot had led you to suspect. If you read my appraisal that's coming from someone who watches the actual sales of domains, not google or asking prices, but actual money changing hands in the marketplace on a daily basis. Estibot gets that info from namebio.com

Go to namebio.com and search for .com of length = exactly 6, and see, sure enough the prices for the brandable ones sold at public auction average in $xxx.

Namebio is a great resource.

 

[termi21]

Thanx for your ideas

In namebio when searching for mp3XXX.com sales (length 6), 2 results come up

mp3cek.com $700 (what is a cek?)
and
mp3ask.com $1010

Both are worse name than mp3mp3.com, according to my personal opinion of course.

Of course length isn't the only thing of importance right?

mp3players.com is worse than mp3dog.com? Of course not.

If we don't take length into account some results were:

mp3download.de........$7410
mp3bearner.com........$1005
mp3turu.com.............$1000 (turu?)
mp3profile.com..........$805
mp3avea.com............$805 (avea?)

so i think $30 which was mentioned before for mp3mp3.com is pretty low, which after all is shorter.

 

[gafadi]

Thanx for your ideas

In namebio when searching for mp3XXX.com sales (length 6), 2 results come up

mp3cek.com $700 (what is a cek?)
and
mp3ask.com $1010

Both are worse name than mp3mp3.com, according to my personal opinion of course.

Of course length isn't the only thing of importance right?

mp3players.com is worse than mp3dog.com? Of course not.

If we don't take length into account some results were:

mp3download.de........$7410
mp3bearner.com........$1005
mp3turu.com.............$1000 (turu?)
mp3profile.com..........$805
mp3avea.com............$805 (avea?)

so i think $30 which was mentioned before for mp3mp3.com is pretty low

well as others said 80-150 sounds around right price for it but yes if your domain is purchased by a enduser it can be sold at the prices you mentioned or the price you show other similar domain were sold

 

[termi21]

Gafadi thank you for your opinion too.

In the end, i was pretty sure, from the begining mp3mp3.com is a bit complicated to be appraised because of its nature. It would be nice if i could find any similar past sales, like sexsex.com, etc.

160 views in this forum is a good signal by the way

 

[Marck]

By the way, I meant search namebio without a keyword, and yes, for brandables length is very much a factor.

 

[termi21]

I am not exactly sure what you mean and where to look for an "average" price.

If i put .com and length 6, then double-word domains start from 40.000 all the way down to $10.

Though, accidentally i found a similar case

dou dou.com was sold for $10660 in the end of June 2008

and i don't know what a dou or a doudou is, maybe it means something to china though (it became chinese in the summer)

Also:

fanfan.com $13000 (which is rated $1800 by estibot)