Unstopable domain transfer

[lknights1987]

How much does it cost to transfer a .com and .io domain name to Unstoppable Domains?

Also if the domain name is transferred into Unstoppable Domains and sells within a year, can it be transferred out to another registrar or does the buyer have to set up an account on Unstoppable Domains to take ownership of it?

 

[DomainThrive]

the whole purpose in their head of this promo is 2nd year renewal. so u are guaranteed they wont give u code. thata not ddebatable.

what u can wonder about is whether this is legal and can be looked at by icann. which is your choice entirely.

I'm just writing this so people don't enter this promo thinking they will get code on expiry window. as some standard procedure here.

Yes complaints should be made to Icann to let them know Unstoppable Domains are 'trying' to do this.

From what I have read they are not allowed to refuse auth code and they can't claim money is due because the expiry period is after the first year.

 

[Unstoppable Domains]

gentlemen, we are losing money on these promos. if we were trying to be predatory and steal your money, this would be a very stupid way to do so. I also wouldn't be engaging with you here explaining the terms at length

our terms ensure we aren't getting screwed by folks who want to run away with the domains as soon as they get their discounts. we are fully compliant with ICANN as you technically owe us the transfer discount until you renew 1 year later, meaning we can withhold the auth code until then.

cheers

 

[DomainThrive]

as mentioned earlier and on several other threads, if you transfer out before 1 year you will pay us back the discount to get the auth code and so you will have paid the full list price for the incoming transfer. this is to prevent people from abusing us and transferring out immediately after getting the promo. you can't transfer out after expiry to get around this - you will need to renew the domain with us to keep it. this is compliant with ICANN rules, as you technically owe us for the transfer in cost until after you renew with us. our renewal prices are at-cost. so essentially you commit to a renwal with us if you want to get the free/discounted transfers.

'this is compliant with ICANN rules, as you technically owe us for the transfer in cost until after you renew with us.'

So if we let the domain drop we also owe you do we??

There was never any stipulation that domains must be renewed or we owe you money.

 

[bojan1]

So, please let me explain this.... for example... if I transferred domain to UD on May 2025 that had expiration date October 2025, after transfer expiration date has been extended to October 2026. So if I want to transfer domain out of UD I cannot do that before May 2026 without paying fee? But if I do that after May 2026 I can do that without paying fee? Is that meant by that "One year" which I signed during transfer? That is how I understood it when I signed for transfers.

 

[alcy]

'this is compliant with ICANN rules, as you technically owe us for the transfer in cost until after you renew with us.'

So if we let the domain drop we also owe you do we??

There was never any stipulation that domains must be renewed or we owe you money.

true

they kinda should have said in promo TOS that to get code u need renew yr2. or Pay difference in yr1 which they say already

that also takes care of expiry window also

 

[bojan1]

true

they kinda should have said in promo TOS that to get code u need renew yr2. or Pay difference in yr1 which they say already

that also takes care of expiry window also

I hope this is not true, because I would never transfer domains if I saw that "renewal condition". For me it was clear that domain should be one year at least at UD since the transfer date in order to obtain auth code without paying fee.

 

[Gabriel360]

I hope this is not true, because I would never transfer domains if I saw that "renewal condition". For me it was clear that domain should be one year at least at UD since the transfer date in order to obtain auth code without paying fee.

The promo says "until 1 year" meanwhile the CEO or whoever is on NamePros saying it's "until you renew with us".

He emphasizes the fact that they'll NEVER give you the authcode until you pay back the $5.53 you saved on the domain name OR you renew the domain name with Unstoppable domains.

 

[bojan1]

The promo says "until 1 year" meanwhile the CEO or whoever is on NamePros saying it's "until you renew with us".

He emphasizes the fact that they'll NEVER give you the authcode until you pay back the $5.53 you saved on the domain name OR you renew the domain name with Unstoppable domains.

But that is not the thing that was written as a condition during transfer.... it was clearly stated that if we ask for auth code before domain has been for a one year at UD we must pay fee..... not a single word mentioned any renewal fee!

 

[alcy]

well they didnt say it cause it was implied.

why u think 50 people here figured it out? they did cause it was implied without saying

but it creates confusion. whixj is why terms should make all clear.

stll to me it's still ok cause I'm still saving... after yr2 renewals and drops.

this isn't scamming me of my money
... ita saving me money

but u do what u want how u want it

juat dont expect too much lol like em give u half price on most tld and let u transfer In expire window lol

then u basically scam them lol

they save u cash so give em some back haha

 

[bmugford]

I do not believe that they can withold the auth code during expiry period and hold people to ransom as its after the first year. It makes it out to be just during the first year that the discount has to be paid back.

We need some with legal experience looking very carefully at this. And their changing terms to what was originally advertised with the amount of discount and taking weeks to update after they started changing the goal posts.

I think this is probably questionable under the ICANN Transfer Policy, though I am sure Unstoppable would point to this part -

3.10 The Registrar of Record has other mechanisms available to collect payment from the Registered Name Holder that are independent from the Transfer process. Hence, in the event of a dispute over payment, the Registrar of Record must not employ transfer processes as a mechanism to secure payment for services from a Registered Name Holder. Exceptions to this requirement are as follows:

3.10.1 In the case of non-payment for previous registration period(s) if the transfer is requested after the expiration date, or
3.10.2 In the case of non-payment of the current registration period, if transfer is requested before the expiration date.

It's kind of debatable if a promo would really be considered "non-payment". IMO.

https://www.icann.org/en/contracted-parties/accredited-registrars/transfer-policy-01-06-2016-en

Brad

 

[Gabriel360]

But that is not the thing that was written as a condition during transfer.... it was clearly stated that if we ask for auth code before domain has been for a one year at UD we must pay fee..... not a single word mentioned any renewal fee!

That's the issue here—they are not being transparent. And I don't think they are honest either.

They already changed the terms of the promo WITHOUT informing anyone until some people called attention to it.

Plus, they are here saying they demand a renewal because they don't want to lose money from people taking advantage of free 1 year renewals and then transfering away.

Meanwhile, they claim that they are losing money on the promo (probably true). But they also claim that their renewal is "at cost".

According to their own submissions, there is no way to recoup the cost of their promos unless they are able to retain customers beyond the second year.

So making it mandatory for people to RENEW their domain names at Unstoppable is just PREDATORY with little upside.

 

[equity78]

From their terms as of today: 'The offer requires that the domain remain registered with UD for the entire first year. If at any time during the first year period, the Customer wants to transfer the domain to another registrar, Customer must first pay UD the 50% savings (maximum $5.53) applicable to that domain at the time the domain was transferred to UD, in order to receive the transfer authorization code from UD.'

I do not believe that they can withold the auth code during expiry period and hold people to ransom as its after the first year. It makes it out to be just during the first year that the discount has to be paid back.

We need some with legal experience looking very carefully at this. And their changing terms to what was originally advertised with the amount of discount and taking weeks to update after they started changing the goal posts.

Also DomainSherpa should be made aware as they helping to promote this this does not reflect well on them.

@jberryhill

 

[bmugford]

In general, I would personally avoid a promo that involves the threat of withholding the AUTH code if I choose to transfer the domain.

Ideally a company uses a promo to attract customers, then earn their long term business.

When the promo comes with these type of terms, it is a major turnoff to me.

Brad

 

[Unstoppable Domains]

So, please let me explain this.... for example... if I transferred domain to UD on May 2025 that had expiration date October 2025, after transfer expiration date has been extended to October 2026. So if I want to transfer domain out of UD I cannot do that before May 2026 without paying fee? But if I do that after May 2026 I can do that without paying fee? Is that meant by that "One year" which I signed during transfer? That is how I understood it when I signed for transfers.

that is correct, one year from when you transfer in is when you no longer need to pay back the discount.

IMPORTANT

this is an important distinction that I haven't been communicating clearly - if you transfer in when you already have registration time, your domain will not expire exactly when we lift the repayment requirement. so you will not necessarily have to renew to transfer out without paying a fee. as in the case quoted above, you will be able to transfer out after 1 year has passed and without renewing.

the only time you will necessarily need to renew is when your domain expires at the same time 1 year has passed from transfer in. so if you transfer in with 0 registration time. we do not support transfer out after expiration until you renew/redeem the domain, so there is no way around renewing with us in that case. I will make that more clear in our terms instead of being implied as it is now.

apologies for the confusion

 

[DomainThrive]

that is correct, one year from when you transfer in is when you no longer need to pay back the discount.

IMPORTANT

this is an important distinction that I haven't been communicating clearly - if you transfer in when you already have registration time, your domain will not expire exactly when we lift the repayment requirement. so you will not necessarily have to renew to transfer out without paying a fee. as in the case quoted above, you will be able to transfer out after 1 year has passed and without renewing.

the only time you will necessarily need to renew is when your domain expires at the same time 1 year has passed from transfer in. so if you transfer in with 0 registration time. we do not support transfer out after expiration until you renew/redeem the domain, so there is no way around renewing with us in that case. I will make that more clear in our terms instead of being implied as it is now.

apologies for the confusion

You are changing the goal posts yet again, hard to keep up.
In fact before you just edited that post it said the complete opposite.
And backtracks on what you were saying earlier

 

[Vertibox]

Ideally a company uses a promo to attract customers, then earn their long term business.

Exactly. This is what this operation doesn't understand and they never will.
I (or anyone else) shouldn't have to say this, but creating reasons to turn away/turn off customers is the very antithesis of being in business and of being successful.

Lots of new companies understand that they will likely make losses, often huge losses in their early years, before they begin to get a position in the market, and then hopefully they will get a good reputation, the good word gets round, etc., and then the profits start accumulating. It could be 5-10 years before many have a positive bank balance.

This ridiculously names operation (a dead giveaway of a company that is heading for failure) have no understanding of this fundamental aspect, they seem to be ill-prepared to be running any type of business and are choosing to spend time arguing with customers online, instead of working hard to make themselves attractive.

It's all going to end in tears, dear UD.

 

[Unstoppable Domains]

our pricing can be found here: https://unstoppabledomains.com/dns-pricing

note that table doesn't show the automatic $5.53 discount that every transfer receives (up to $2k in discounts per customer). so you would subtract that from the transfer prices shown in the table to see your promo price.

as mentioned earlier and on several other threads, if you transfer out before 1 year you will pay us back the discount to get the auth code and so you will have paid the full list price for the incoming transfer. this is to prevent people from abusing us and transferring out immediately after getting the promo. you can't transfer out after expiry to get around this - you will need to renew the domain with us to keep it. this is compliant with ICANN rules, as you technically owe us for the transfer in cost until after you renew with us. our renewal prices are at-cost. so essentially you commit to a renwal with us if you want to get the free/discounted transfers.

alcy makes a good point - most domainers sell only 1-2% of their portfolio yearly. so if you need to transfer those out before 1 year with us and you end up paying $11 for those transfers, that is a small price to pay vs all the savings you'll get on the other domains you don't need to transfer out.

CORRECTION ON MY EARLIER POST: there's no obligation to renew with us in order to avoid repaying the discount. after 1 year passes you will be able to transfer out freely without a fee. the only time you will need to renew to transfer out is if the domain is expired. we do not allow transferring out while the domain is expired, so you'll need to renew first. but you can transfer out freely after 1 year passes and before expiry

this is the stipulation that many of you were worried about so FYI

 

[Unstoppable Domains]

You are changing the goal posts yet again, hard to keep up.
In fact before you just edited that post it said the complete opposite.
And backtracks on what you were saying earlier

yes I misspoke, apologies for the confusion. Our policy didn't change, I was explaining it incorrectly

 

[Unstoppable Domains]

In general, I would personally avoid a promo that involves the threat of withholding the AUTH code if I choose to transfer the domain.

Ideally a company uses a promo to attract customers, then earn their long term business.

When the promo comes with these type of terms, it is a major turnoff to me.

Brad

we're subsidizing transfers now while we're new & learning in so that when the time comes to renew, we will have built a much better product and you renew enthusiastically with us.

 

[bojan1]

Anyone having issue with UnstoppableDomians transfer window. This morning tried to transfer in couple of domains but transfer window is immediately shuting down upon my request so couldn't proceed.