Undeveloped .coms grrrrrrrrrrrr

[NameCharger]

Dontcha just love it when you find a short, easy to remember and spell .com that you can use directly for your own business only to find it taken, undeveloped and not even parked?!?

"can't find the server at www.<goodname>.com"

Then you contact the owner inquiring if they'd consider selling it and you get a reply where they must think I'm either Bill Gates or The Donald and s/he is about to win the frickin lottery and head off into retirement: "I've had numerous offers to bid and they were $XXX,XXX,XXX but I decided not to sell because I think it's worth more than that"

Ugh.

/end rant

 

[scandiman]

Kind of like the weed covered lot surrounded by million dollar homes. All I can say is make a serious offer and see what happens.

 

[NameCharger]

heh I replied for that much $$$ s/he should have taken the money and run off into retirement

I got a reply that the figure was a "typo" and 3 zeros had been dropped!

 

[Spade]

Honestly, I rarely seek out fresh registrations anymore. The closet I come to that is combing through expired lists for a gem here or there... It is frustrating though when you have an idea for a site and start to look for names. I went through a few of those issues last year....

We feel your pain...

 

[scandiman]

heh I replied for that much $$$ s/he should have taken the money and run off into retirement

I got a reply that the figure was a "typo" and 3 zeros had been dropped!

:hehe: All it takes is $10/yr to keep their dreams alive for a big sale. Make a solid offer and if they refuse then invite the owner to contact you in the future if they decide to sell. Far too often I think we run off in a huff when in fact the owner is confused as to what is a good price for the name. Keep at it, you might make a good buy.

 

[bigturnip]

I've always thought of it this way, if you were starting a bricks and mortar business you're not going to get a high street location for the same price as a car boot pitch, so why should the internet be any different? (Not sure that will make sense to many not in the UK, but I'll assume you get the gist.) The western world is largely capitalist and operates a free market and the internet is its ultimate free market, it's every man for himself.

There are always people that even the best negotiator won't be able to move, although they may seem foolish, they know there are people out there stupid enough to pay a lot of money for a load of old tat. Just pass it by and move on.

 

[HBK216]

I've always thought of it this way, if you were starting a bricks and mortar business you're not going to get a high street location for the same price as a car boot pitch, so why should the internet be any different? (Not sure that will make sense to many not in the UK, but I'll assume you get the gist.) The western world is largely capitalist and operates a free market and the internet is its ultimate free market, it's every man for himself.

There are always people that even the best negotiator won't be able to move, although they may seem foolish, they know there are people out there stupid enough to pay a lot of money for a load of old tat. Just pass it by and move on.

While I see your point, I must disagree on a part of it. When you are focusing on a name for a business, sometimes one only has so many options. Lets say I was opening a business involving grasshoppers. There are only so many names that I have available to my disposal. So just walking away isn't as easy you make it out to be.

 

[Earthian]

Basically , that is the situation with most domains .






For example ... someone has a nice domain that is not generic but is a catchy and brandable one ...


- a big corporation could easily spend $50,000 (or more) on the name if it really fitted their marketing strategy ...

- a medium-sized company could possibly buy it for $5000-15000 if it was within iits scope and budget ...

- a domainer might try to buy it for $500-3000 since it is not generic ...

- a reseller domainer would not go over $1000 and probably offer something like $200 for it ...






this "problem" multiples greatly if the owner is a new domainer thinking his domain is really unique and a big corporation would easily spend 1 million for the previledge to buy it ...






but the thing is ... on the infoaccessible and infodisseminative internet , all the above scenarios could happen (ok the 1 million one maybe not that easily lol) ... and that is where most domainers are in a dilemma to sell for a low but rather-fair-according-to-domainer-prices price ... or not-sell/ask-for-more in case it is actually a big corporation making the offer (stealthily through a private individual) or in case the big corporation is just around the corner with a good offer ...

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[gazzip]

: Make a solid offer and if they refuse then invite the owner to contact you in the future if they decide to sell.

Good Advice, I have had it happen a couple of times and thats the line I gave them, hey, you never know, you might get a surprise email from them one day


.

 

[DomainBuyerBroker]

There are a lot of greedy bastards out there. If you own a GREAT name then it's okay to be a bit greedy but if it's a $5000 or less name, sell the damn name!

I asked a guy about a year ago for a price on a domain and he said he turned down $10k. I told him to sell it. Now the name is in redemption. Idiot.

 

[NameCharger]

Good Advice, I have had it happen a couple of times and thats the line I gave them, hey, you never know, you might get a surprise email from them one day .

Yep, when s/he gets a notice from their registrar when it's up for renewal.

Good news is I didn't even make an offer, if and when the registrant comes back from Pluto and contacts me, maybe able to snarf if for less than reg fee :hehe:

 

[gazzip]

, maybe able to snarf if for less than reg fee :hehe:

..or maybe catch it in a drop for $60 - I got one recently in a drop, it was still listed on Sedo and had 4 previous offers :tu: wish I knew what they were though :hehe:


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[scandiman]

Yep, when s/he gets a notice from their registrar when it's up for renewal.

Good news is I didn't even make an offer, if and when the registrant comes back from Pluto and contacts me, maybe able to snarf if for less than reg fee :hehe:

If the name is as good as you suggest and relevant to your business, it will most likely not be dropped. At less than $10 a year it is easy for someone to keep their dreams alive. Make a decent offer and see what happens.

Good Advice, I have had it happen a couple of times and thats the line I gave them, hey, you never know, you might get a surprise email from them one day

Yes, it has worked out several times for me as well. It is a win/win, I got a decent price for good domains and the seller who obviously knew nothing about domains other then how to reg finally got some payout.