Undeveloped.com Experience

[JudgeMind]

Has anyone used undeveloped.com to sell domains? They claim to be able to increase a domainers sales by 54%.

 

[oldtimer]

I am impressed by the simplicity and effectiveness of the landers, I like to see the option of renting domains to be promoted a little more to end users.

 

[Mary Muse]

imo undeveloped has been growing well but there needs to be more support staff at this point to answer emails and messages faster. A 24 hour turnaround is too slow imo. I know other marketplaces take 24 hours or more but those are even worse and not really to be held as an example for comparison. And I know they have grown because I remember getting responses much faster mid last year and have seen them gradually get slower up until now which is too slow imo. Everything else is great so this is just a suggestion and not a complaint.

Would still choose Undeveloped over Sedo and GoDaddy for escrow ANY day of the week.

Not one, but TWO sales of mine being sat on at Sedo currently, with no completion date in sight. All info and payments submitted -- just needs a push at GD.

I almost cringe when I get an offer via Sedo because of they anticipated anxiety that comes with the transaction process there. Not to mention the exorbitant commission at other marketplaces.

You have to weigh all of it. For 9% and an intimate transaction process with support who's both knowledgeable and prompt...

All others are archaic and the old boys club.

The fact that you have Reza himself at your disposal pretty much any day of the week HERE on NPs is telling itself.

Transparency and innovation.

This is not a paid message lol.

 

[ecomslice]

I really did not want to bring this up , as there are way more quality suggestions , but does anyone feel that adding a Logo a much larger space than those tiny business card emblems could be very attractive ? is this not the whole reason buyers feel more display and branding potential, hence all the beautifully displayed branding sites.

I know most choose one thing over the other every single day due to appearance versus practicality

I would love to add a large logo to some

IN FACT , PLEASE LIKE IF YOU ALSO WOULD HIGHLY LIKE THE OPTION, AND
DO NOT LIKE IF YOU DONT CARE AT ALL .

appreciate the honest vote. cheers.

 

[alcy]

I don't think they will support the transactions especially in cases like this : Seller wants to sell 20 domains in a total of $200 to same buyer, do you think they will invest efforts in such deals?

For such transactions, they shall allow seller to transfer domain directly to buyer..

well.. as u know once they implement this feature, it will cover all sellers selling X domains for Y money.

so maybe it will even out for them.

but I get your point.. it could mean some work for them to escrow 20 names into push accounts etc.. for $200 total.

then again, it appears its possible to do just thta now... by entering the names for sale into description or msg box. at least they told me so. they didn't mention any minimum sale prices... @Undeveloped

 

[Optimal Names]

I agree with @carob it might be time to get these Undeveloped "analytics" posts moved to their own thread. Good topic.

With Google Analytics on Undeveloped I find that these dimensions and metrics create a useful report for me. Perhaps others will find this useful too. Of course, I could be doing this all wrong!

I filter out a lot of visits from China, I realize that. Not all obviously but I am improving that. In 18 years of domain selling, I have only sold 1 domain to someone in China (which I know of * ) and that was in 2007. Its not like I am preventing them from purchasing, I am just trying to remove some of the noise. I add to the filter list as time goes on. I have found a lot of bots that I dont want to see. Some of the filters overlap, I am eventually going to improve on that too.
* - some sales via marketplaces which you do not know who your buyer is could have been from China, but still there is an overwhelming amount of analytic spam from there so I'd just rather ignore it for now.

I ignore all visits from "amazonaws.com" because most of those are bots. Especially the ones where I can see them visiting each domain in my portfolio, alphabetically, sometimes several to even dozens per minute.

I added latitude and longitude to the dimensions because believe it or not sometimes its pretty accurate as to who is looking at your names.

I use the dimension ga:landingPagePath because the domain name is in it, example: /buy-domain/<domain-name-plus-extension> I cant find a dimension which returns just the domain name itself. ga:landingPagePath returns "undeveloped.com" for every single visit whereas for Efty or Bodis returns a clean domain name plus extension.

Dates:
I usually do the last 30 days


Sort:
-ga:dateHourMinute,ga:landingPagePath


Metrics:
ga:sessions (havent played around with other Metrics yet)


Dimensions:
ga:landingPagePath,ga:dateHourMinute,ga:Source,ga:networkDomain,ga:networkLocation,ga:latitude,ga:longitude


Filters: (this is very long, sorry, lots of analytics spam to try and reduce)
ga:networkLocation!=china unicom jiangsu province network;ga:networkDomain!=weekendpartycancel5.comga:networkDomain!=spankbang.site;ga:networkDomain!=sl-reverse.com;ga:networkDomain!@ip-;ga:networkDomain!=bastardoperatorfromhell.us;ga:networkDomain!=as44706.net;ga:networkDomain!=as47377.net;ga:networkDomain!=as13285.net;ga:networkDomain!=as43289.net;ga:networkDomain!=cyrusone.com;ga:networkDomain!@amazonaws;ga:referralPath!@mf;ga:networkLocation!=facebook ireland ltd;ga:networkLocation!=chinanet shanghai province network;ga:networkLocation!=chinanet guangdong province network;ga:networkLocation!=chinanet shanghai province network;ga:networkLocation!=china unicom beijing province network;ga:networkLocation!=china unicom shanghai city network;ga:networkLocation!=china unicom henan province network;ga:networkLocation!=hosting services inc.;ga:networkDomain!=ip-158-69-19.net;ga:networkDomain!=ip-158-69-152.gr;ga:networkDomain!=ip-158-69-148.net;ga:networkDomain!=expireddomains.pro;ga:networkDomain!=cemeterymeetkettle.eu;ga:networkLocation!=markus koch;ga:networkLocation!=domaintools llc;ga:networkLocation!=lezon inc;ga:networkDomain!=ip-139-99-103.eu;ga:networkDomain!=ip-158-69-193.net;ga:networkLocation!=aliyun computing co. ltd;ga:networkLocation!=beijing qihu technology company limited;ga:networkLocation!=chinanetcenter ltd.;ga:Source!=perform-likeir-alibaba.info;ga:Source!=perform-likeize-alibaba.info;ga:Source!=indozoverseas.com;ga:Source!=free-website-traffic.com;ga:networkLocation!=china unicom shandong province network chinanet anhui;ga:networkLocation!=province network chinanet;ga:networkLocation!=beijing province;ga:networkLocation!=chinanet beijing province network;ga:networkDomain!=ip-144-217-171.net;ga:networkLocation!=chinanet henan province network;ga:Source!=krumble-adsic.info;ga:Source!=display-your-ads-hereti.info china unicom;ga:networkLocation!=jiangsu province network;ga:networkLocation!=china unicom guangxi province network;ga:Source!=chicago-daily-newsian.info;ga:networkLocation!=seflow s.n.c. di marco brame e c.;ga:networkDomain!=ip-144-217-99.net;ga:networkDomain!=prospection.com;ga:networkDomain!=ctdhosting.com;ga:networkLocation!=kazooisyee;ga:networkDomain!=ip-167-114-90.net;ga:Source!=reach-publisherof.info;ga:networkLocation!=chinanet hebei province network;ga:networkLocation!=early registration addresses;ga:networkDomain!=responsestaff.com;ga:networkDomain!=51iker.com;ga:networkDomain!=domaincrawler.com;ga:networkDomain!=houseofstyle.online;ga:networkLocation!=chinanet jiangsu province network;ga:networkDomain!=certaincyber.net;ga:Source!=oiggynivbyxelvqxew.com;ga:networkLocation!=china unicom heilongjiang province network;ga:networkLocation!=chinanet jiangxi province network;ga:latitude!=45.8399;ga:longitude!=-119.7006;ga:networkLocation!=china unicom liaoning province network

 

[Bogdan]

I have sold my first domain with Undev and I was pleasantly impressed with the money transfer speed. It took about 2 days to release money through bank transfer (2 days, Carl). With Uniregistry it itook about 5 month to release my first payment.

 

[franchez]

Hi all, can someone tell me the account name of undeveloped escrow(in namesilo)

 

[singhhooda]

Hi all, can someone tell me the account name of undeveloped escrow(in namesilo)

Account username is UndevelopedEscrow

 

[Tecany]

Hi all, can someone tell me the account name of undeveloped escrow(in namesilo)

You should ask the support on the undev interface to be sure to push to the good account and not somebody else account.

 

[Mainlander]

I see Uniregistry has recently been added to ExpiredDomains.net. What about seeing if Undeveloped can be added as well? Would increase visibility to the platform...?

 

[Optimal Names]

Just sold my first name at Undeveloped.Incredibly smooth and quick experience. Very attentive responses from Undeveloped staff.

Waiting for payment, will post details at that time in the report completed sales thread.

 

[singhhooda]

well.. as u know once they implement this feature, it will cover all sellers selling X domains for Y money.

so maybe it will even out for them.

but I get your point.. it could mean some work for them to escrow 20 names into push accounts etc.. for $200 total.

then again, it appears its possible to do just thta now... by entering the names for sale into description or msg box. at least they told me so. they didn't mention any minimum sale prices... @Undeveloped

@Undeveloped, how about "Add to cart" feature or you charging $5 (or so) per additional domain in bulk domain transfer in a single transaction?

For an example, If I have 3 domains (variations of same domain) to sell to end user for $150 each in a single transaction, I will need to send 3 links to end user to buy the domains, out of which he might buy only 1 or 2 as it would require him to submit 3 transactions.

How about seller paying $5 per additional domains (2 additional domains) in that transaction?

So $450-$10 ($5 * 2) = $440

OR

You can implement "Add to cart" feature, so buyer can add those 3 domains in a single transaction?


This mechanism can make things productive?

 

[alcy]

hmmmm were u guys aware undev doesnt payout to paypal if over 1000$.... i just learned this today... its odd cause epik sedo gd etc.. they have much higher limits... if any at all..

so i guess no one here ever got more than 1k to paypal for their sale...?

 

[singhhooda]

hmmmm were u guys aware undev doesnt payout to paypal if over 1000$.... i just learned this today... its odd cause epik sedo gd etc.. they have much higher limits... if any at all..

so i guess no one here ever got more than 1k to paypal for their sale...?

Payoneer works best for me!

 

[alcy]

Payoneer works best for me!

well yes.. ty...i know there are 20 other options. and i listed sedo and few more already...i was just utterly suprised by this news as i didnt know about this til today... as much as i enjoy undev..this will definitely be deal breaker for me for deals over 1k... maybe now its bit clearer why many b4 were kinda wondering why so many undev reported sales seem <1k... i guess it could relate to many sellers opting for other venues with easy paypal payouts...

@Undeveloped is there something u can do to increase paypal payout limit? why is it the lowest among all yer competitors? im sure youd be creating more sales and clients for yerself with bigger limits.

 

[alcy]

well yes.. ty...i know there are 20 other options. and i listed sedo and few more already...i was just utterly suprised by this news as i didnt know about this til today... as much as i enjoy undev..this will definitely be deal breaker for me for deals over 1k... maybe now its bit clearer why many b4 were kinda wondering why so many undev reported sales seem <1k... i guess it could relate to many sellers opting for other venues with easy paypal payouts...

@Undeveloped is there something u can do to increase paypal payout limit? why is it the lowest among all yer competitors? im sure youd be creating more sales and clients for yerself with bigger limits.

just as quick update to all so there is no misinfo spread around.. the undev rep who told me this morning its 1k limit for paypal.. then corrected himself and it is 2k limit..

so for those of you who do not want other payouts than paypal or canot have other payouts than paypal (for instance I deal with bank in canada which simply does not offer swift number or wire transfers... tangerine bank) ... so its something worth remembering.. this 2k limit...

they told me its to protect themselves against chargebacks etc that they do not payout more to paypal... but.. as I said.. all other companies seem to have no limit or much bigger limit for paypal.. sedo etc.. I guess this is where the types of verifications that undev does vs other companies comes into play... perhaps undev checks payments less... or has less efficient (but faster) system in place to check payments.. I think I read somewhere before that they are not a full escrow per se... unless im wrong.

I am not interested in btc payments.. but apparently they told me they also payout unlimited amounts into your btc... if that's an optoin for others..

hope this info helps you decide.. and maybe saves some people issues for bigger transactions... I for one am very glad I found out by chance about this 2k limit.. otherwise I'd have problems cashing out at undev!!!

 

[creataweb]

Wonder if you can just take $1k at a time via PayPal? Instead of lump sum.

 

[alcy]

Wonder if you can just take $1k at a time via PayPal? Instead of lump sum.

i thought about it.. the answer is imo no... cause how you take it out to yer paypal or by what chunks... changes nothing to whether buyer would be able to file chargeback or not..

but I'm sure @Undeveloped can confirm. thanks!

 

[creataweb]

i thought about it.. the answer is imo no... cause how you take it out to yer paypal or by what chunks... changes nothing to whether buyer would be able to file chargeback or not..

but I'm sure @Undeveloped can confirm. thanks!

Yeah I mean if I sold a name for $5k for example I would like to take $1k a week in chunks max. I guess we'll wait for UD to respond since I didn't know this either.

I think Epik allows you to withdrawal any amount at any time to Paypal.

 

[alcy]

Yeah I mean if I sold a name for $5k for example I would like to take $1k a week in chunks max. I guess we'll wait for UD to respond since I didn't know this either.

I think Epik allows you to withdrawal any amount at any time to Paypal.

yes epik does.. so does sedo or gd and some others basically pay you any amount to paypal (maybe gd has cap of 5k I think)...

yea I know what you meant by withdrawing smaller chunks.. what I said is that buyer decides to file chargeback with credit card.. it won't matter if you withdrew 1k at a time or all 5k... there will still be consequences to chargeback... not really to you.. cause undeveloped eats the losses they say... but they'll still have to return the 5k to buyer... it won't matter how you withdrew it to yer paypal.

so I guess this is where the importance of checking payment and buyer well comes in.. its not impossible thgat undeveloped does this faster (we all know how fast they pay and close deals)... and therefore maybe less accurately... than say gd or sedo..

or the other reason is simply that they are not prepared to take same risks as the bigger guys like sedo/gd... its entirely possible. everyone company takes the risks it can afford to take.. its that simple really.