.tv Thoughts and more thoughts about .tv

[ThreeD]

I've been thinking about this for a while and I really want to know what you guys and girls think about this.

Hopefully we all agree on this - More and more tv shows, digital media and more and more movies / pay per view services are added to the web, right?

I remember back in the early 90's when a lot of people weren't aware of the fact that there was a THING called the internet. .Com's were available left and right, you could pick and choose whatever you felt like. It was like being a 5 year old in a candy store.

Little did my teenager brain know back then so I kept building my lovely cyberspace home on my geocities southbeach web addy It took me a couple of years to understand that it was worth the 35 bucks to register a .com.

Today, with all the various multimedia devices out there and all the information that is made available to us I'm left wondering if more and more companies will use the .tv extension in the future to promote their movies, their promo's, their digital content or whatever it is their trying to sell/advertise.

I understand that com is still king, but I'm somehow seeing a flashback back to the early 90's when people weren't all that impressed by the .com / .net's until the entire circus exploded in the mid 90's. Why? Because it was made more and more available and people suddenly knew what the internet was all about. Every now and then I've been get this feeling of beeing that 5 year old kid in the candystore, looking at all the .tv goodies still available out there

It's important to remember that most people don't know squat about the internet. Most people think the entire internet is one big .com party. I work with all kinds of people, business people, sales people, doctors, corporate leaders and what not, I think it's very easy to take the knowledge we have for granted. (We = domainers / webdevelopers / desigers). I've asked quite a few "non-internet" people what they think .tv is all about, and most of them associate it with media or tv's. That got me thinking. What happens the day large corporations realize the full potential (if there is one) of the .tv extension? Knowledge is the key!

Let me put this picture in your head. You're sitting on the couch, you've got your 60" plasma on the wall (which is hooked up to the internet btw) and you want to stream a movie from the internet. Wouldn't it make sense for more and more media companies to offer their streaming services for TV's from a .tv extension?

If major corporations like Sony or Panasonic launch a new tv or surround sound system, wouldn't it make sense to add a .tv button to the remote which takes the owner straight to a .tv website or any .tv bookmarks the owner may have added to the list? I don't know about you, but I think it makes far more sense to add a .tv internet button rather than a .com.

Anyway, I'm just rambling on so I'm going to get some work done. What do you think of all this?

 

[benzdorf]

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[GoneWalkabout]

I understand that com is still king, but I'm somehow seeing a flashback back to the early 90's when people weren't all that impressed by the .com / .net's until the entire circus exploded in the mid 90's. Why? Because it was made more and more available and people suddenly knew what the internet was all about.

In a very small way I was one of the beneficiaries of that ".com" explosion and like the original poster completely saw the parallels between the .com events of the Nineties and the .tv events of now. Hence my steady acquisition of names that can genuinely be developed. (and have genuinely been developed)

Running with .TV and feeling that sense of deja vu is ok, but I want everything to happen TODAY and it all seems such a slow boil. But the story is only going in one direction, and the facts are laying themselves out day after day.

The hope, of course, is that we arrive at that bizarre point when all of a sudden everyone fully understands .TV and we were 'right'.

Of course, this is a very big gamble and many things may be VERY VERY different. We might have more and more 'gated' sites - places like a future YouTube, that invite you in and intend to keep you there, as they are everything you could ever want from internet television - and they have completely sewn the market up. We see these sites developing today, the likes of Twitter,Facebook, SeeSaw, and certainly everything Google, that want to represent everything in a particular niche. We may, in a different route, also be faced with thousands and thousands of extensions to the point we no longer care if it is a .com or a .net - but we see the whole name as the domain. Much like we are introduced to some one called Peter McGregor in the real world and accept his whole name, rather than just being interested in the McGregor part of his name, because the clan was more important than the individual (as it once was).

The future is certainly not ours to see, but I also get that same feeling of 'I've seen this before'



...and last time it was good for those involved.

 

[snoop]

The exact same arguments have been made for years by those investing in .tv domains. Online video doesn't equal .tv, it is an alt extension for video.

If major corporations like Sony or Panasonic launch a new tv or surround sound system, wouldn't it make sense to add a .tv button to the remote which takes the owner straight to a .tv website or any .tv bookmarks the owner may have added to the list? I don't know about you, but I think it makes far more sense to add a .tv internet button rather than a .com.

That would make sense for one group of people only, those who speculating on .tv domains, it would make no sense for anybody else. It sounds alot like the famous ".mobi button" that .mobi fans were predicting a couple of years ago. Good luck waiting for stuff like this.

 

[*AllThings.tv*]

The exact same arguments have been made for years by those investing in .tv domains. Online video doesn't equal .tv, it is an alt extension for video.



That would make sense for one group of people only, those who speculating on .tv domains, it would make no sense for anybody else. It sounds alot like the famous ".mobi button" that .mobi fans were predicting a couple of years ago. Good luck waiting for stuff like this.

Is that the antifan in you, or are you just happy to meet your 'Rant against dot tv' quota?

Is there an extension that you root for as much as you you root against dot tv? If so, please share.

 

[Vito]

ThreeD,

I agree 100% with your thoughts.

.tv isn't just here to stay...
.tv WILL redefine all internet based technology one day.

 

[snoop]

Is that the antifan in you, or are you just happy to meet your 'Rant against dot tv' quota?

Is there an extension that you root for as much as you you root against dot tv? If so, please share.

Is it just me or is there the level of conversation just getting lower and lower?

Seems you are posting the same off topic stuff in multiple threads today, with as many links as you can to your fabulous antifan thread. I think it is perhaps a new low point following on from the time you claimed I was actually a big .tv investor and went on a rant about how I had lost a whole lot of money in .tv.

 

[*AllThings.tv*]

Is it just me or is there the level of conversation just getting lower and lower?

Seems you are posting the same off topic stuff in multiple threads today, with as many links as you can to your fabulous antifan thread. I think it is perhaps a new low point following on from the time you claimed I was actually a big .tv investor and went on a rant about how I had lost a whole lot of money in .tv.

Are you saying you never lost a significant amount of money in a dot tv transaction?

 

[snoop]

Are you saying you never lost a significant amount of money in a dot tv transaction?

umm..yes. I've already said a couple of times your prior claim was complete nonsense.

 

[*AllThings.tv*]

umm..yes. I've already said a couple of times your prior claim was complete nonsense.

Then how can someone as reasonable as you be on such a crusade? I mean, I am certainly not in the minority of members on this forum who think you are on a crusade. In fact, I can't even claim to be so witty to think of your activities on this forum as such but when a reasonable person stands back and looks at some of your posts, it becomes quite evident that it is exactly that...a crusade against the extension.

 

[snoop]

Then how can someone as reasonable as you be on such a crusade? I mean, I am certainly not in the minority of members on this forum who think you are on a crusade. In fact, I can't even claim to be so witty to think of your activities on this forum as such but when a reasonable person stands back and looks at some of your posts, it becomes quite evident that it is exactly that...a crusade against the extension.

I guess the issue is you've made something up which is complete nonsense. However instead of admitting that you go on with the same stuff you've presented many times before.

With all this and your antifan stuff it seems you are now becoming the next freedom30 of this forum. Good luck with all that but don't expect me to reply to a whole lot of off track posts.

 

[*AllThings.tv*]

Way to deflect and not directly answer the question which was serious and legitimate.

By now, you know and understand that I am not the only one on this forum who questions your intentions when you consistently post negatively about the extension.

 

[GoneWalkabout]

Is it just me or is there the level of conversation just getting lower and lower?

It appears that once again another thread has been destroyed by someone with an agenda.

Snoop, people understand you don't like .TV - but why keep coming here and pissing on everyone's chips?


A man comes on Namepros, explains why he, as a person, likes .TV and has his ideas derided for no reason other than you feel the need to be contrary/superior.

So yes, I agree, the level of conversation is getting lower.

Please, would it hurt to show some level of common decency.

 

[ThreeD]

The future is certainly not ours to see, but I also get that same feeling of 'I've seen this before' ...and last time it was good for those involved.

I'm glad I'm not the only one sitting here with that dejavu feeling. Lets hope that the .tv extension will become more known, more widespread and synonymous with multimedia, online as well as offline

One holding point that speaks for the .tv extension is it's simpleness. No matter where you go (well, almost), everybody knows what a tv is and what it means. The reason .com took off in the early 90's was because there was no competition. Now .tv has to fight against the popularity of .com, which is a battle that's hard to fight, but for some reason I think it's far from impossible to win (in the long run).

Online video doesn't equal .tv, it is an alt extension for video.

What about online tv? What if media stations choose to "stream" some of their shows on the internet? As more and more people get access to faster internet connections, I don't see why that can't be a legit option.

That would make sense for one group of people only, those who speculating on .tv domains, it would make no sense for anybody else. It sounds alot like the famous ".mobi button" that .mobi fans were predicting a couple of years ago. Good luck waiting for stuff like this.

I wouldn't compare .mobi to .tv. They are two different venues. You can see a widespread use of the .tv extension as it is. Even the NBA has jumped into the game (NBA.tv). .mobi was never promoted the way .tv is promoted, it never had the same level of exposure to the public, hence the .mobi extension failed.

.tv WILL redefine all internet based technology one day.

That's what I'm thinking too :] We'll just have to wait and see..

 

[freedom30]

I guess the issue is you've made something up which is complete nonsense. However instead of admitting that you go on with the same stuff you've presented many times before.

With all this and your antifan stuff it seems you are now becoming the next freedom30 of this forum. Good luck with all that but don't expect me to reply to a whole lot of off track posts.

...and the word was delivered by the inimitable Quixote to the ignorant and unwashed masses of the .tv extension:

"Nonsense! Balderdash, I tell you.", the crusader quipped. "You fail to see the 20th century is right there before your very own eyes, as it is before mine, yet you have the unmitigated gall to turn your back on it. "

"I will verily have you sent to coventry should you persist in this treasonous action." roared the now invigorated man of La Mancha. "I stand before you undaunted in my quest to stomp out any signs that even broach the unmentionable subject of even the most meager alleged success of this extension, and with my last breath with refute anything that may in any way slow the progress of the return of the 20th century."

The frail Quixote, exhausted from his day on the battlefield, once again set upon his ass and meandered to the next thread, preparing for the next ensuing confrontation. He was content with the havoc and intimidation he manifested to the denizens of this God-forsaken extension, knowing that he has once again made refugees of another thread, laying it barren with his "march to the sea" technique of destroying the threads.

Job well done, my dear conquistador. the battle begins anew.

Once gone, the villagers gathered around, picked up whatever pieces were left of their posts, and chuckled at the debile, feeble and abrasive statements of the undaunted crusader.

Come again, Quixote, we are still here, as strong as, if not stronger than before.

"With all this and your antifan stuff it seems you are now becoming the next freedom30 of this forum."

In the land of this extension existed many interpreters and historians of the travels and travails of Don Quixote, as his adventures were legendary.

"Good luck with all that but don't expect me to reply to a whole lot of off track posts. "

...t'was then apparent that dear Quixote was growing weary and needed his nap. Again, we say to you:

Good night, good Knight! :zzz:

 

[benzdorf]

Benzdorf the congenial stands up and applause, shouting above the crys of the horrid mass's
'" Bravo Bravo " :lala:

 

[HappyBunny]

I think branding/promotion is the key to .tv's (or any extension's) success.

Today, with all the various multimedia devices out there and all the information that is made available to us I'm left wondering if more and more companies will use the .tv extension in the future to promote their movies, their promo's, their digital content or whatever it is their trying to sell/advertise.

That would be very, very good for .tv. Dot-coms are so valuable today because the extension is heavily promoted everywhere. If the same thing is happening with .tv, people will learn to accept the extension. .tv won't replace .com but its value will surely increase.

 

[hullswingerscom]

only if and when we get some good tv sales reported on dnj..will this stop from guys like snoop..

will they be a new tv Convergence like they had last year ?

shame seesaw.tv goes to the com!

I think branding/promotion is the key to .tv's ..yes i go along with this,i did think it was geo but now not so sure!

 

[Kate]

What about online tv? What if media stations choose to "stream" some of their shows on the internet? As more and more people get access to faster internet connections, I don't see why that can't be a legit option.

I have to say Snoop is right on the money. We bought a large flatscreen TV recently, like many households. It's quite a sophisticated model, you can surf the web too... visit sites like youtube.com etc (BTW youtube.tv redirects to youtube.com). Are we going to surf .tv websites now ? Now way.
Nothing to do with technology.

.mobi was never promoted the way .tv is promoted, it never had the same level of exposure to the public, hence the .mobi extension failed.

You may be right on that. But both are niche extensions.
I think there is a critical mass issue.

only if and when we get some good tv sales reported on dnj..will this stop from guys like snoop..

Exactly, and I hope you guys have contributed already
No reason why .tv sales are reported less often that other extensions, IMO the end users are voting with their wallets.

How exactly .tv intends to compete ? Even the standard reg fee is substantially higher than .com.
If I were big fish like Sony etc I would have serious reservations about basing my business upon an extension that is unregulated, unlike gTLDs or mature ccTLDs.

It's the end users that make the market, you can 'educate' some of them, but not all of them. Sure we can dream about a perfect world where everyone is .tv-aware, there is little you can do about it.

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If major corporations like Sony or Panasonic launch a new tv or surround sound system, wouldn't it make sense to add a .tv button to the remote which takes the owner straight to a .tv website or any .tv bookmarks the owner may have added to the list? I don't know about you, but I think it makes far more sense to add a .tv internet button rather than a .com.

As usual there is lots of talks about what the major corporations should be doing :gl:
But they already have their dotcoms so the reality is that they have little incentive to promote, let alone 'switch' to another extension. It's a simple as that.
Airbus or Boeing don't use their .aero either, why should they. Granted, .aero blows as a TLD (unlike .tv) but the issue is the same. They have the dotcom already.

BTW www.sony.tv is dead and panasonic.tv is parked (squatted ?).
If you want to educate end users, you know where to find them.
You guys are going to hate me :lala:

 

[GoneWalkabout]

BTW sony.tv is dead and panasonic.tv is parked (squatted ?).

Panasonic.tv is, as you state, parked(squatted?), however Sony.tv is actually owned by Sony - and should they decide not to use the name today, that is their prerogative. Surely, everyone has at least one name that doesn't point anywhere (especially a name you have a plan for).

Philips and Samsung are also own their own names in .TV, indeed quite a lot of film is available to see at Philips.tv.

If you want to educate end users...

I think many endusers are doing just fine with their own education on .TV

A quick look at BMW.tv or Mercedes-Benz.tv will confirm that.

You guys are going to hate me

I don't think anyone is going to hate you, indeed you obviously have a lot more flair in finding real facts than the fantasy we normally hear from people who are anti-TV. However, what they might dislike is being given only part of the story because the writer has a one-sided view on what is going on.


You see a corporation without a .TV channel and suggest TV is dead

Most here see a corporation using a .Tv channel and think this is further evidence of where things are going.