.tv Those $25,000 a Year names - What happened to them?

[GoneWalkabout]

Those $25,000 a Year names

How things have changed - massively!

Looking at what is coming up this week at Bido I noticed that Sonic.tv is up for sale. I found this really quite interesting - not the fact the name is at auction, but the fact that, at a start price of $300 it shows just how VERY wrong Verisign were with their pricing structure.

Like many people I kept a list of the old premium prices and that name was $25000 - just four weeks ago. In fact there were only 32 names priced at $25,000 a year - and it is interesting to see what happened to them and whether they ended up being seen at the same value bracket when the world got the chance to grab them.

The 32 names at $25,000 were:

austria.tv
backup.tv
books.tv
commerce.tv
computers.tv
crazy.tv
debt.tv
drogen.tv
earth.tv
english.tv
finance.tv
germany.tv
guide.tv
help.tv
internacional.tv
learn.tv
listen.tv
network.tv
palace.tv
prestamos.tv
progressive.tv
sexual.tv
show.tv
single.tv
software.tv
sonic.tv
stil.tv
surfing.tv
tits.tv
tunes.tv
vampire.tv
wired.tv

After the goldrush, landrush and auction all but one are left available for sale (Listen.tv) and that is priced at $480. To put this in context, that is some $24,520 away from it’s old-style ANNUAL price - and yet it’s not been picked up.

Yet, from that same list Learn.tv went in the recent auction for $41,000, Guide.tv went for $29.500, Germany.tv for $10,099, but Tunes.tv went for $500.

We are all familiar with what happened with Debt.tv (great goldrush catch) and the frenzy purhases like Austria.TV. I can only assume at the value these are now placed.

So, if proof were ever needed of how distant Verisign actually are from reality where .TV is concerned, we’ve seen it over the past few weeks.

Sadly, these are the same people who many are hoping will see sense and allow a one-off end of premium buyout!

 

[DU]

Sadly, these are the same people who many are hoping will see sense and allow a one-off end of premium buyout!

Then there are those that question the sense of anyone who thinks they are obligated to change it.

This is 100% pure profit pure and simple.

Someone paying a 4K renewal doesn't stop Joe Public from registering a $20 domain somewhere.

Where's the Horse? I wanna beat it some more! :lol:

I've been looking at the pricing too. I'm not so much interested in how wrong they were before but how wrong they are now to still have them.

Holding premiums with annuals = revenue 100%
Holding premiums = ability to have auctions to "reignite" interest
Holding premiums = fewer domainer sales (in general because users WILL pay)

People are asking X,XXX for domains where there are better XXX names available for premium. There would be a lot of sales if the requests were end users and not domainers. I think advertising here on NP and SEDO is simply not going to cut it based on these market dynamics.

The VAST majority of OLD premiums that went to RegFee have been snapped up. A lot of those that were just repremiumed are STILL available..

Proving what?

.TV now has thousands of parked/investment grade domains being held. Next year around March/April I expect to see thousands of "fresh drops" and people still looking for that 10000% ROI.

That said. Simple things could change it.

The MOST POWERFUL movement that I think should be the effort of you all now?

Have SEDO make TV be one of the primo domains listed at the top when you do a search.

Look for any word and it will show you the com/net/info even eu/us/org and the "bottom fell out" mobi.

Where's TV? Nowhere. That's where.

This only touches on one marketplace but its a BIG one and when it's not listed up there on the top? Obviously no one cares about the .TV :imho:

 

[Len]

Excellent post Jimbo and thanks for the list of the previous $25,000/yr domains.

I must admit that I currently hold Sonic.tv.

You are correct in pointing out the price point that I have set at $300 is low, in truth it is a gamble on my part as I think this domain is worth much more.

Someone will either end up with a REAL bargain or it will go for a decent price stimulated by the low reserve. Hopefully the latter.

 

[GoneWalkabout]

Someone paying a 4K renewal doesn't stop Joe Public from registering a $20 domain somewhere.

There you go again bringing FACTS into a debate. You'd better watch out before the mods get wind of this!!!

Seriously, and very sadly, as one of those people paying a $4k renewal each year, your statement is absolutely correct!


That said, surely Verisign can see the wisdom in helping early-adopters (many of which have been financially hurt by the recent changes) to get on an even playing field.

If the names are dropped, then they don't exactly get the massive riches, just a one-off fee.

I must admit that I currently hold Sonic.tv.

You are correct in pointing out the price point that I have set at $300 is low, in truth it is a gamble on my part as I think this domain is worth much more.

Sorry Len, I wasn't having a go at you or Sonic.tv - I just noticed it as one of the $25k names and it got me wondering about what happened to some of the others. Strangely, I'd forgotten that Learn was a $25k name.

If I can make up I think that sonic is VERY brandable and easily worth the same as Learn.tv/Germany.tv/Guide.tv combined!

Good luck with the auction.

 

[DU]

If I can make up I think that sonic is VERY brandable and easily worth the same as Learn.tv/Germany.tv/Guide.tv combined!

Good luck with the auction.

How are you going to make up with Germany/Learn/Guide now that you've devalued them?! (j/k)

Seriously though. Sonic is a really great positive brand and as I've said many many times... the future of the internet is NOT products but brands.

Out with shoes.com in with zappos.com or something.tv

It has been STUDIED and PROVEN that the new GENERATION DO NOT LIKE PRODUCT domains... they like BRAND domains.

We're moving into the Brand Y world - generation Y is what this is all about and Sonic will be a real nice pickup for someone.

GEO's fall into their own category :p

 

[Len]

Sorry Len, I wasn't having a go at you or Sonic.tv - I just noticed it as one of the $25k names and it got me wondering about what happened to some of the others. Strangely, I'd forgotten that Learn was a $25k name.

If I can make up I think that sonic is VERY brandable and easily worth the same as Learn.tv/Germany.tv/Guide.tv combined!

Good luck with the auction.

No need to apologise, I never thought you were knocking Sonic.tv.

As I said, it really is good to see the list of previous $25,000 premiums and what happened to them.....Very interesting to see that nearly all became standard reg fee during the gold rush.

Hard to believe when you see some of the weak stuff that is still classified as premium.

 

[equity78]

I know Len, Enom keeps showing me when I have been checking names, Gyno.tv for $4220. What the heck ? Satellite.tv for $1500 and Gyno for $4220. But then again these are the same people that took Masseuse.tv reg fee and made the name premium and took D.tv and made the name non premium. Never sure what their doing.

 

[freedom30]

I know Len, Enom keeps showing me when I have been checking names, Gyno.tv for $4220. What the heck ? Satellite.tv for $1500 and Gyno for $4220. But then again these are the same people that took Masseuse.tv reg fee and made the name premium and took D.tv and made the name non premium. Never sure what their doing.

...and therein lies the rub...

 

[Len]

I know Len, Enom keeps showing me when I have been checking names, Gyno.tv for $4220. What the heck ? Satellite.tv for $1500 and Gyno for $4220. But then again these are the same people that took Masseuse.tv reg fee and made the name premium and took D.tv and made the name non premium. Never sure what their doing.

I don't know if you or anyone else has noticed that Gyno.tv does not appear on the list of premiums that you can download from Enom.

Also if you do a regular search it comes back as taken, however if you check the box when it appears in the "Featured domains" you can add it too your cart and purchase.......It looks like those "featured .tv premiums" have been set aside and are not available through normal search or purchase.

 

[discovernow]

Those $25,000 a Year names

How things have changed - massively!

Looking at what is coming up this week at Bido I noticed that Sonic.tv is up for sale. I found this really quite interesting - not the fact the name is at auction, but the fact that, at a start price of $300 it shows just how VERY wrong Verisign were with their pricing structure.

Like many people I kept a list of the old premium prices and that name was $25000 - just four weeks ago. In fact there were only 32 names priced at $25,000 a year - and it is interesting to see what happened to them and whether they ended up being seen at the same value bracket when the world got the chance to grab them.

The 32 names at $25,000 were:

austria.tv
backup.tv
books.tv
commerce.tv
computers.tv
crazy.tv
debt.tv
drogen.tv
earth.tv
english.tv
finance.tv
germany.tv
guide.tv
help.tv
internacional.tv
learn.tv
listen.tv
network.tv
palace.tv
prestamos.tv
progressive.tv
sexual.tv
show.tv
single.tv
software.tv
sonic.tv
stil.tv
surfing.tv
tits.tv
tunes.tv
vampire.tv
wired.tv

After the goldrush, landrush and auction all but one are left available for sale (Listen.tv) and that is priced at $480. To put this in context, that is some $24,520 away from it’s old-style ANNUAL price - and yet it’s not been picked up.

Yet, from that same list Learn.tv went in the recent auction for $41,000, Guide.tv went for $29.500, Germany.tv for $10,099, but Tunes.tv went for $500.

We are all familiar with what happened with Debt.tv (great goldrush catch) and the frenzy purhases like Austria.TV. I can only assume at the value these are now placed.

So, if proof were ever needed of how distant Verisign actually are from reality where .TV is concerned, we’ve seen it over the past few weeks.

Sadly, these are the same people who many are hoping will see sense and allow a one-off end of premium buyout!

Jimbo,

I picked up Single.tv during the landrush for $1,000. Will be looking for sell it evenutally for a nice ROI.

 

[equity78]

Surfing.tv went for $310. Great buy IMO.

 

[RPK]

Surfing.tv went for $310. Great buy IMO.

In landrush? That's a sweet pick-up imo.