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Thank God you are Not an American.
I'm proud of where I'm from and very happy to see that American Conservatives (I'm with them) and some others are extremely proud of their country, while others...
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You show it... you brought it up! Why should I believe a leftie?
Way to back peddle..LOL

First you act like the rest of his show from last night would make him look better then you back peddle :xf.laugh::ROFL::xf.laugh::ROFL:
 
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I'm proud of where I'm from and very happy to see that American Conservatives (I'm with them) and some others are extremely proud of their country, while others...
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You are still not an American. (Thank God)

But if you were and you sided with the Russians over America and Americans then that would make you a Traitor.

So again, Thank God you are Not an American.
 
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Way to back peddle..LOL

First you act like the rest of his show from last night would make him look better then you back peddle :xf.laugh::ROFL::xf.laugh::ROFL:
Since you accuse him of being a traitor, then show the whole fucking video... as proof! What are you afraid of? I don't trust HuffPost and you even less. Show the whole video as proof!
 
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You are still not an American. (Thank God)

But if you were and you sided with the Russians over America and Americans then that would make you a Traitor.

So again, Thank God you are Not an American.

we have loads of Russians living in America, would you say if they, the Russians that live here thought we sucked , the same with Mexicans, do you think they possibly could commit crimes in America due to how they feel about Americans and ect????

not trying start any shit, just would like your and others if they want opinions
 
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You are still not an American. (Thank God)

But if you were and you sided with the Russians over America and Americans then that would make you a Traitor.
Like I said in a previous post and will repeat it again... if given the choice, I prefer Russians to lefties (American or European, etc.) any day of the week...

As is very well known, I love American Conservatives or people with common sense!
 
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we have loads of Russians living in America, would you say if they, the Russians that live here thought we sucked , the same with Mexicans, do you think they possibly could commit crimes in America due to how they feel about Americans and ect????

not trying start any sh*t, just would like your and others if they want opinions
Like I said in a previous post and will repeat it again... if given the choice, I prefer Russians to lefties (American or European, etc.) any day of the week...

As is very well known, I love American Conservatives or people with common sense!
You guys see or hear us say Russians and you immediately go to the Russian people, we are NOT speaking about the Russian people we are talking about the Russian government and you know that.

Carlson was talking about the Russian government.

Since you accuse him of being a traitor, then show the whole f*cking video... as proof! What are you afraid of? I don't trust HuffPost and you even less. Show the whole video as proof!
 
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Trump Knew of Whistle-Blower Complaint When He Released Aid to Ukraine
White House lawyers briefed President Trump in late August about the complaint, people familiar with the matter said.

Nov. 26, 2019, 6:40 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON โ€” President Trump had already been briefed on a whistle-blowerโ€™s complaint about his dealings with Ukraine when he unfroze military aid for the country in September, according to two people familiar with the matter.

Lawyers from the White House counselโ€™s office told Mr. Trump in late August about the complaint, explaining that they were trying to determine whether they were legally required to give it to Congress, the people said.

The revelation could shed light on Mr. Trumpโ€™s thinking at two critical points under scrutiny by impeachment investigators: his decision in early September to release $391 million in security assistance to Ukraine and his denial to a key ambassador around the same time that there was a โ€œquid pro quoโ€ with Kyiv. Mr. Trump used the phrase before it had entered the public lexicon in the Ukraine affair.

Mr. Trump faced bipartisan pressure from Congress when he released the aid. But the new timing detail shows that he was also aware at the time that the whistle-blower had accused him of wrongdoing in withholding the aid and in his broader campaign to pressure Ukraineโ€™s new president, Volodymyr Zelensky, to conduct investigations that could benefit Mr. Trumpโ€™s re-election chances.

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The complaint from the whistle-blower, a C.I.A. officer who submitted it to the inspector general for the intelligence community in mid-August, put at the center of that pressure campaign a July 25 phone call between the presidents, which came at a time when Mr. Trump had already frozen the aid to the Ukrainian government. Mr. Trump asked that Mr. Zelensky โ€œdo us a favor,โ€ then brought up the investigations he sought, alarming White House aides who conveyed their concerns to the whistle-blower.

The White House declined to comment.

The whistle-blower complaint, which would typically be submitted to lawmakers who have oversight of the intelligence agencies, first came to light as the subject of an administration tug of war. In late August, the inspector general for the intelligence community, Michael Atkinson, concluded that the administration needed to send it to Congress.

But the White House counsel, Pat A. Cipollone, and his deputy John A. Eisenberg disagreed. They decided that the administration could withhold from Congress the whistle-blowerโ€™s accusations because they were protected by executive privilege. The lawyers told Mr. Trump they planned to ask the Justice Departmentโ€™s Office of Legal Counsel to determine whether they had to disclose the complaint to lawmakers.

A week later, the Office of Legal Counsel concluded that the administration did not have to hand over the complaint.

It is unclear how much detail the lawyers provided Mr. Trump about the complaint. The New York Times reported in September that White House advisers โ€” namely, Mr. Cipollone and Mr. Eisenberg โ€” knew about the whistle-blower complaint in August. But the specifics of when and how Mr. Trump learned of it have not previously been reported.

The whistle-blower, whose identity has not been made public, accused Mr. Trump of abusing his power by inviting a foreign power to interfere on his behalf in the 2020 election. He described the pressure campaign to get Mr. Zelensky to publicly commit to investigations of Democrats that could potentially benefit Mr. Trump and suggested that a temporary hold that the administration had placed on assistance to Ukraine, which is fighting a war against Russian proxy forces, might be related to the effort.

New details also emerged on Tuesday about that decision to freeze the security assistance to Ukraine. An official from the White House budget office, Mark Sandy, testified that on July 12, he received an email from the office of the acting White House chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, notifying him that Mr. Trump had directed that administration officials freeze Ukraineโ€™s military aid.

Mr. Trump had enthusiastically sought the investigations for much of the summer. But in early September, he told one of his top diplomats โ€” Gordon D. Sondland, the United States ambassador to the European Union, who helped carry out the shadow policy toward Ukraine โ€” that he was not seeking โ€œa quid pro quoโ€ with the Ukrainian government by withholding the aid.

Mr. Sondland said that when he called Mr. Trump to inquire about why the aid had been withheld, an irritated Mr. Trump insisted he was not seeking anything from the Ukrainians. But the president said that he wanted Mr. Zelensky โ€œto do the right thing,โ€ Mr. Sondland testified to Congress last week, suggesting that he was still seeking the investigations into Democrats that could help his political fortunes.

There are discrepancies about whether Mr. Sondland spoke to the president on Sept. 7 or 9. The administration lifted the freeze on aid to Ukraine on Sept. 11, as lawmakersโ€™ demands grew. Two days earlier, three Democratic-led House committees had opened an investigation into Mr. Trumpโ€™s dealings with Ukraine.

Only days after the president learned of the whistle-blower complaint, he spoke with Senator Ron Johnson, Republican of Wisconsin, about the aid holdup. Mr. Johnson sought permission to tell Mr. Zelensky at an upcoming meeting in Ukraine that Mr. Trump had decided to release the security assistance, according to Mr. Johnson.

Mr. Trump replied that he was not ready, Mr. Johnson said. He said he asked later on the call whether the aid was linked to some action that the president wanted the Ukrainians to take.

โ€œWithout hesitation, President Trump immediately denied such an arrangement existed,โ€ Mr. Johnson wrote in a letter this month to House Republicans.

Mr. Trump erupted in anger and began cursing, he wrote.

โ€œโ€˜No way,โ€™โ€ Mr. Trump said, according to Mr. Johnson. โ€œโ€˜I would never do that. Who told you that?โ€™โ€

The White House has kept a tight hold on details about the actions of Mr. Trump and his senior aides in the Ukraine affair.

The president has refused to let top advisers testify in the impeachment inquiry, leaving a void that Republicans have exploited. They argue that the evidence that Democrats have gathered is insufficient because it contains few firsthand accounts linking the president to wrongdoing.

But Democrats have not only the transcript of Mr. Trumpโ€™s July 25 call but also the testimony of Mr. Sondland, who said Mr. Trump directed him and other top administration officials to maintain pressure on Ukraine.

Both Mr. Cipollone and Mr. Eisenberg, who briefed Mr. Trump in late August about the whistle-blower complaint, had been following up on other complaints by administration officials about the Ukraine matter since early July.

Mr. Cipollone had suggested to Mr. Eisenberg in July that he tell Mr. Trump that White House staff members had raised concerns about a shadow Ukraine policy. Mr. Eisenberg, who does not typically brief Mr. Trump, never followed up on the suggestion.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/26/us/politics/trump-whistle-blower-complaint-ukraine.html
 
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Trump says he didnโ€™t direct Giuliani to work with Ukraine

ABC News Videosโ€ขNovember 26, 2019
President Trump suggested in an interview with Bill Oโ€™Reilly he didn't really know what his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani was doing in Ukraine.

Watch Video,
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-didn-t-direct-214818823.html

Look Out Rudy! There is a HUGE Bus coming right at you! :xf.laugh::ROFL::xf.laugh:

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An example of how the NY Times doesn't thinks its readers are stupid. Throw a lot of words out there, sprinkle them with bull$h*t flakes, and give it a nice headline. I especially like the conceit that nobody knows the whistle-blower. The man whose name must not be uttered! And to top it off, it's poorly written.

The complaint from the whistle-blower, a C.I.A. officer

"The complaint from the vociferously anti-Trump mole in the White House, based entirely on 3rd person hearsay."

The whistle-blower, whose identity has not been made public,

An outright lie. Everybody knows his name.

Mr. Trump erupted in anger and began cursing, he wrote.

Personal interpretation of the witness. All presidents curse and get angry. It is rarely mentioned, casting doubt on the authenticity of this report.
 
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For the simple folk, the difference between a mole/saboteur and a whistleblower.

A whistleblower is someone who was working in a company/organization in good faith, who witnessed some clear wrongdoings that couldn't be justified or rectified within the organization, and who reluctantly put their career at an end by exposing these wrongdoings.

A mole is someone who is working in a company/organization in bad faith, who is looking for ways to undermine that company/organization by finding anything at all that can be used against it, even hearsay, and who advances their career by eagerly using such information to damage the company/organization they work for.

To paraphrase Commander Enlytend, "You're welcome, kiddies."
 
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1) I don't really care for Tucker Carlson so watch occasionally. Bill O'Reilly was much better.

2) Lot's of people have stupid ideas, bad opinions. That doesn't make everything they do stupid or wrong.

3) Tucker uses a lot of sarcasm but he's not as conservative as he was five years ago.

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^ This is what Tucker "Traitor" Carlson said last night.

Now i'm sure mr-x and Gilsan will defend him saying he tried to walk it back at the end of his show.
I say Bullsh!t on that defense.

Carlson probably got yelled at by the powers that be at FOX or his own people/manager to get out there and clean it up.

He meant what he said and that is the problem because he speaks for you Trump supporters.
You guys believe and help spread whatever lies Russia wants Trump, GOP and FOX to spread for them.

You call Non-Trump supporters suckers? You guys are the biggest Suckers in history.
 
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To everyone on this thread, both on the left and the right.....

Myself and my wife wish you and your family a:
HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!
 
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To everyone on this thread, both on the left and the right.....

Myself and my wife wish you and your family a:
HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!
And to you and yours!
 
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I hope everyone has a safe and happy thanksgiving ๐Ÿฆƒ๐Ÿ
 
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For the simple folk, the difference between a mole/saboteur and a whistleblower.

A whistleblower is someone who was working in a company/organization in good faith, who witnessed some clear wrongdoings that couldn't be justified or rectified within the organization, and who reluctantly put their career at an end by exposing these wrongdoings.

A mole is someone who is working in a company/organization in bad faith, who is looking for ways to undermine that company/organization by finding anything at all that can be used against it, even hearsay, and who advances their career by eagerly using such information to damage the company/organization they work for.

To paraphrase Commander Enlytend, "You're welcome, kiddies."

Saboteur? :xf.laugh::xf.laugh::xf.laugh: Or just somebody that did the right thing and outed some corruption, shocking how everything that has come out since, just back that report up. Even just today:

Giuliani Pursued Business in Ukraine While Pushing for Inquiries for Trump
"As Rudolph W. Giuliani waged a public campaign this year to unearth damaging information in Ukraine about President Trumpโ€™s political rivals, he privately pursued hundreds of thousands of dollars in business from Ukrainian government officials, documents reviewed by The New York Times show."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...for-inquiries-for-trump/ar-BBXpUwq?li=BBnb7Kz

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Russia Inquiry Review Is Expected to Undercut Trump Claim of F.B.I. Spying
The Justice Departmentโ€™s inspector general found no evidence that the F.B.I. attempted to place undercover agents or informants inside Donald J. Trumpโ€™s campaign in 2016 as agents investigated whether his associates conspired with Russia's election interference operation, people familiar with a draft of the inspector generalโ€™s report said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ndercut-trump-claim-of-fbi-spying/ar-BBXqMKh?


It's like 1 big episode of dumb criminals.
 
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