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Who is to Blame for the Troubled US Economy?

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  • Both Parties

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    45.6%
  • Neither Party

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    8.7%
  • Democrats

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    22.4%
  • Republicans

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    23.3%
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2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun :)

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AfternicAfternic
I don't believe you're correct, most of America believed he would win.
Perhaps you confused Obama with crooked Hillary? :xf.rolleyes:
Clinton was way out in front, over 20% ahead.
Most thought Clinton couldn't be beat at this time.

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So you do want out of AG or IQ ?? What about Saudi Arabia?
Want out? Hell yes. I do not Want to be in any war. Do you?
But you do Not just Abandon and Cut & Run. You do not abandon allies to be slaughtered.

But evidently you have no problem Abandoning our allies at a moments notice who fought with us and you don't care if these people get slaughtered. You also do not have a problem with allowing 11,000 ISIS prisoners to be freed from prison.
You follow Trump no matter what he does.
You really need to start thinking for yourself and stop letting Trump do the thinking for you.

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Clinton was way out in front, over 20% ahead.
Most thought Clinton couldn't be beat at this time.

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It's humorous that you posted a poll graph...
Same polls you lefties posted that Trump would lose by a landslide lol
Dude plz, polls are as accurate as sh*t.
 
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It's humorous that you posted a poll graph...
Same polls you lefties posted that Trump would lose by a landslide lol
Dude plz, polls are as accurate as sh*t.
Unless they are in Your favor then its s different story....right?
 
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Unless they are in Your favor then its s different story....right?

Polls mean nothing to me, ZERO!
Their fixed on both sides, I'm just stating fact.
The fact is that the Dems have no one currently who has a chance to win this election.
As @JB Lions mentioned, someone else from the outside is going to have to make a dramatic entrance.
 
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The fact is that the Dems have no one currently who has a chance to win this election.
I have a bet for You and mr-x and Gilsan.

If Trump somehow magically wins in 2020 I will stay Out of this Thread and will not post here for 2 months.
If he Loses to a Democrat then you 3 stay out of this thread and do not post here for 1 month.

I am giving you three 2-1 odds

Deal? :xf.grin:
 
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Want out? Hell yes. I do not Want to be in any war. Do you?
But you do Not just Abandon and Cut & Run. You do not abandon allies to be slaughtered.

Kurds are not allies. Turkey is an ally by treaty. Definitely could have been handled better but your feelings don't make your correct.

Kurds were a proxy with a shared goal of defeating ISIS and trying to unseat Syrian dictator Bashar. What happens to Syria if Bashar was actually unseated? Why do you think Obama didn't support Syrian rebels?

If you think this is unprecedented, let me remind you of operation desert storm. When the USA encouraged Iraqis to rebel against Sadam.... then pulled out leaving enough of his army intact to suppress the uprising and prevent a civil war.

Bill Clinton abandoned Somalia.
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1) Kurds are not Christians, they are communist.

2) The Syrian democrat army are a wild card. Are they Islamist? Probably continuation of Suni / Shia strife.

2) There are 2 million+ Syrian refugees in TK. TK wants them to go home. Do you think the Kurds want them in their "new" state?

3) What happens when the Syrian rebels start fighting the Kurds over land and oil?

4) If we stay, we continue fighting a proxy war with RU.

5) RU are now backing the Kurds, they hate ISIS too.

But evidently you have no problem Abandoning our allies at a moments notice who fought with us and you don't care if these people get slaughtered. You also do not have a problem with allowing 11,000 ISIS prisoners to be freed from prison.

Apparently you believe everything your hear on cable news. I not happy about Syria but what can be done? Bad decision? Maybe short term, long term will be better I think.

Every President has to make hard decisions and they make mistakes. Get over yourself.

You follow Trump no matter what he does.
You really need to start thinking for yourself and stop letting Trump do the thinking for you.
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All I hear from you are media talking points and insults.
 
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I have a bet for You and mr-x and Gilsan.

If Trump somehow magically wins in 2020 I will stay Out of this Thread and will not post here for 2 months.
If he Loses to a Democrat then you 3 stay out of this thread and do not post here for 1 month.

I am giving you three 2-1 odds

Deal? :xf.grin:

I'll make a different deal. If Nancy Pelosi doesn't hold a full vote on impeachment before December you stop insulting people.
 
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Kurds are not allies. Turkey is an ally by treaty. Definitely could have been handled better but your feelings don't make your correct.

Kurds were a proxy with a shared goal of defeating ISIS and trying to unseat Syrian dictator Bashar. What happens to Syria if Bashar was actually unseated? Why do you think Obama didn't support Syrian rebels?

If you think this is unprecedented, let me remind you of operation desert storm. When the USA encouraged Iraqis to rebel against Sadam.... then pulled out leaving enough of his army intact to suppress the uprising and prevent a civil war.

Bill Clinton abandoned Somalia.
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1) Kurds are not Christians, they are communist.

2) The Syrian democrat army are a wild card. Are they Islamist? Probably continuation of Suni / Shia strife.

2) There are 2 million+ Syrian refugees in TK. TK wants them to go home. Do you think the Kurds want them in their "new" state?

3) What happens when the Syrian rebels start fighting the Kurds over land and oil?

4) If we stay, we continue fighting a proxy war with RU.

5) RU are now backing the Kurds, they hate ISIS too.



Apparently you believe everything your hear on cable news. I not happy about Syria but what can be done? Bad decision? Maybe short term, long term will be better I think.

Every President has to make hard decisions and they make mistakes. Get over yourself.



All I hear from you are media talking points and insults.
Oh Bullshit.
This is WAY beyond just a bad decision.
This has the huge potential of costing Trump the election is he doesn't get removed before that.
Many of these Kurd's are Christian.
 
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Oh Bullsh*t.
This is WAY beyond just a bad decision.
This has the huge potential of costing Trump the election is he doesn't get removed before that.
I disagree.

Many of these Kurd's are Christian.

You don't really know how many are Christian. Either way, Christians were allowed to worship freely in Syria before the civil war. Do even remember why / how this war started?
 
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Yeah.. it was pretty obvious who the media was voting for.
Exactly... I remember very well, seeing the Media pushing Hillary off the cliff, while kissing Obummer's ass all the way to the White House and beyond.... he even got the Nobel Peace prize a few months later for doing fu*kall
 
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I'll make a different deal. If Nancy Pelosi doesn't hold a full vote on impeachment before December you stop insulting people.
I knew you had No backbone for my bet.

You want me to agree to any new deal you first Must agree to mine.

And then we will talk about your deal.
But any bet must include to stay away from this thread for a month for the loser, and that includes you.
Not this stupid insult prize.
 
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I have a bet for You and mr-x and Gilsan.

If Trump somehow magically wins in 2020 I will stay Out of this Thread and will not post here for 2 months.
If he Loses to a Democrat then you 3 stay out of this thread and do not post here for 1 month.

I am giving you three 2-1 odds

Deal? :xf.grin:

raw
 
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I have a bet for You and mr-x and Gilsan.

If Trump somehow magically wins in 2020 I will stay Out of this Thread and will not post here for 2 months.
If he Loses to a Democrat then you 3 stay out of this thread and do not post here for 1 month.

I am giving you three 2-1 odds

Deal? :xf.grin:
Please don't stay out that long... we want to keep on bashing you and the other lefties, especially on the day after...
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I have a bet for You

"Bet"
Apologies but that is not allowed in my faith nor is drinking alcohol.

But I am allowed to curse so life isn't that bad lol

In all fairness if you leave who will I tell "Go slob a knob".
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Please don't stay out that long... we want to keep on bashing you and the other lefties, especially on the day after...
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Wow! You finally Admit that you are a Basher.
Usually online Bashers never admit that.

Are you a Paid Basher?
A lot of Bashers are on Political and Stock forums.

This is an example of a Stock Basher but the same in many ways can apply to a Political Basher.
They are basically in it for the money.


What Is a Stock Basher?
A stock basher is a person engaging in an illegal type of market manipulation to make the price of an asset fall. Stock bashers rely on misinformation campaigns to decrease confidence in a stock, leading to an undervaluation of that stock. In some cases, a stock basher may have a position in the asset which benefits from a fall in price.


Understanding Stock Bashers
The term stock basher refers to a person who spreads false or exaggerated claims against a public company in attempt to devalue a stock. The purpose of stock bashing is usually to drive down the price of a stock so that the stock basher, or the basher’s employer, may purchase the stock at a lower price than it would otherwise be worth.


Bashers create misinformation campaigns, often claiming to have inside information on specific stocks or making hyperbolic claims about future performance of a stock. Stock bashers tend to target stocks of smaller companies rather than widely-held stocks because the markets are more easily manipulated.


In most cases, the stock basher will directly benefit by spreading highly negative rumors, hoping that investors will believe the false claims and sell their stock before it fails This allows the basher and their backers to purchase the stock and reap greater gains. While this seems to be the primary motivation for most stock bashing, some analysts also speculate that some bashers are simply former employees or stakeholders in a company pursuing revenge.


For example, stock bashers may target an investment firm that has notes that convert for more shares at a lowered price. If shareholders can be convinced that their holdings are worthless, and bashers can drive down the stock price, the investment firm receives an increased amount of shares. When the stock conversion completes, bashers who have acquired shares through this means will typically sell quickly as prices rise. This is sometimes known as a pump and dump scheme.


Whether a stock basher acts alone or on behalf of another party, the practice is an unlawful form of market manipulation and carries significant legal repercussions.


The Presence of Stock Bashers in Online Forums
Stock bashing often occurs in online investing platforms, and as such bashers can be difficult to identify and eradicate due to anonymity tactics on the internet.


As the internet has made participation in the stock market more accessible to more people, new investors emerging in the market are especially vulnerable to the tactics of stock bashers, and many investor boards exist to attempt to track perpetrators.


Though notoriously difficult to track, some bashers have been identified and prosecuted, and from time to time confessional essays about the tactics of bashers emerge online, although these essays are typically also either anonymous or pseudonymous.


Many investors speculate that the behavior of bashers tends to follow certain patterns, including a tendency for bashers to only bash stocks which are generally trending upwards and showing potential.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/stockbasher.asp
 
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"Bet"
Apologies but that is not allowed in my faith nor is drinking alcohol.

But I am allowed to curse so life isn't that bad lol

In all fairness if you leave who will I tell "Go slob a knob".
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Yea right. Weak, really weak.
No real confidence in Trump.
 
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Looking forward to the lefties Fireworks Display in 2020...
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Looking forward to the lefties Fireworks Display in 2020...
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I see you are ignoring my offer.

I knew you would. God forbid you take a chance on having to stay away from this thread for any length of time.
 
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